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mircea_popescu: you're also very likely right re nat router keys. junk of the junk.
fromphuctor: good to know :)
fromphuctor: i didn't read the log
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor i dunno if you've seen the logs, but the idea to add ssh keyscan was accepted upon discussion.
mircea_popescu: and yes, that's what stuff like http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/ (bottom section) lead to, and is why "Public Exponent 281479271743489 is NOT PRIME ! Modulus has mirrored low-order 32 bits !" sort of thing is in the comments on phuctor.
fromphuctor: that is why i suggested to test ssh keys
fromphuctor: in particular i have the SUSPECT that router from juniper and cisco might build random keys that are not random at all
fromphuctor: today i am wondering if you ever compared the keys to see if any clone is found
fromphuctor: yesterday i suggested to play with ssh-keyscan
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 08:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461623 << me sobs at the alt reality where 8gb counts for really beefy. phuctor is on 1/4 tb, yo. unless it was 1/2 ? i forget.
shinohai: ^ looks pretty tasty
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/slave-labour.jpg << teh epic results of slave labour.
mircea_popescu: and if it won't do this, the fact that it graciously doesn't require me to write my own asm jumps or whatnot is irrelevant already.
ascii_deadfiber: sad but tru: speed matters, in practice.
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely no reason, nor can there be any reason, c compiler can't take two strings, such as the decameron and the collected works of shakespeare, and multiply them together, as fucking numbers, and spit out the result. none.
ascii_deadfiber: it ran in geological time.
ascii_deadfiber: mircea_popescu: recall the toy cramershoup?
mircea_popescu: which is how longhand multiplication even fucking works, on the basis of strings-and-regexp pretty much.
mircea_popescu: the compiler is more than happy to make a linked list of fixints and do the carryovers as required.
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber i don't get the speed argument.
mircea_popescu: why the FUCK is there a compiler AT ALL ?!?!
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber IT IS NOT MY FUCKING JOB TO ANSWER!!!
mircea_popescu: who the fuck things these shitboxes are even computers when i get n digits eval to 0, NaN and whatever other bullshit ?!
ascii_deadfiber: mircea_popescu: there is no easy answer to ~how to represent~ them
mircea_popescu: seriously, i gotta say ANYTHING more than "bigint" to get this ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber and while on this topic : it beggars belief that bignum-as-linked-list-of-any-size-up-to-avail-ram is not a fucking standard in gcc in 2016.
ascii_deadfiber: i do suspect that the enemy knows some factoid re prime distribution that makes factoring randints easier
mircea_popescu: i recall him trying one
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 10:19 mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/561245D928FF0843F5F346549A73B46C6836E3B2BE309DC7F6CCAFCF7F17795C << thinking about it, this is quite the example. 4096 key, correct e, divisible by 5, 11, 23, 447.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if anyone with a box with python > 3.2 on it is willing to give http://cado-nfs.gforge.inria.fr/ a whirl (specifically in regards to the modulus in http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461712 ) plox lemme know whether it even worx. ☝︎☟︎
ascii_deadfiber: if the only implementation of something were in js, it hasn't actually been implemented yet.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 10:28 mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz, http://www.javascripter.net/math/primes/millerrabinbug-bigint54.htm as well as "However, if you try to pass an odd number n greater than 2^53 the test will not work because the argument would actually turn out to be some other number approximately equal to the desired odd number: JavaScript/IEEE754 cannot exactly represent odd numbers that large!"
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 08:30 mircea_popescu: ". like it's fucking 1700 all over again or some shit, and they're refugees from the Alchemics & Perpetuum Mobile society.
ascii_deadfiber: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461701 << by and large the alchemists, subtracting the outright fraudulent shitbags, had moar sense than these folks. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: The one at the top that isn't struck through is right, I the struck through I forgot to replace a value from last month.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/05/qntra-s-qntr-april-2016-report/ << this right ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 08:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461614 << ianacs, but : fwis the way all these "modern" computing stacks work, is they are made by people with absolutely no system design training, competence or understanding. as a result, they end up hand-crafting the tail. the ready equivalent would be a "new, modern" game of chess, where as the game progresses more and more moves have to be verified against a rulebook ; and then against
BingoBoingo: I dunno, the cheese is roughly as equal as some "Americans", but fxing
ascii_deadfiber: shit can be drilled through, but how does one know where to drill..
mircea_popescu: depends how willing the thinking folk be.
ascii_deadfiber: witness that ~nobody walks in asking after trb, for instance.
ascii_deadfiber: in that the shitcocoon they spray around everything we do is quite opaque, even to thinking folk
BingoBoingo: <ascii_deadfiber> he's the 'replacement story' tho << No, hoaxtoshi and nao petrocheese stockpiles are
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 11:58 ascii_deadfiber: he's the 'replacement story' tho
ascii_deadfiber: just crapping out the oodles of small primes a typical int is divisible by
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 08:16 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461545 << nice, starting to get some serious numbers.
ascii_deadfiber: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461684 << understand what happens when you gcd against the 8ball - these are fat composites ☝︎
ascii_deadfiber: he's the 'replacement story' tho ☟︎
mircea_popescu: dun worry bout it, he won't be able to outlive it no matter what else he does. from experience half a decade later or w/e he'll start whining about how it should be deleted.
mircea_popescu: eh, not the place for it.
ascii_deadfiber: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461700 << tempted to link this on front of phuctor ☝︎
mircea_popescu: herpitty derp, the world works like it's on fucking fire. anyway, that exhausts my patience.
mircea_popescu: apparently http://cado-nfs.gforge.inria.fr/ is what bernstein uses. except "Required software tools [...] GNU make and CMake (2.6.3 or later) for building (CMake is installed on the fly if missing. This feature requires an Internet connection.)" and then Connecting to cmake.org|66.194.253.19|:443... connected. ERROR: certificate common name `*.kitware.com' doesn't match requested host name `cmake.org'.
mircea_popescu: you got computers and they work amirite ?!
mircea_popescu: http://www.math.ttu.edu/~cmonico/software/ggnfs/ << "numbers up to 140 digits" what the everloving fuck is this bullshit.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz, http://www.javascripter.net/math/primes/millerrabinbug-bigint54.htm as well as "However, if you try to pass an odd number n greater than 2^53 the test will not work because the argument would actually turn out to be some other number approximately equal to the desired odd number: JavaScript/IEEE754 cannot exactly represent odd numbers that large!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic ^ i propose as best candidate for m-r testing.
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/561245D928FF0843F5F346549A73B46C6836E3B2BE309DC7F6CCAFCF7F17795C << thinking about it, this is quite the example. 4096 key, correct e, divisible by 5, 11, 23, 447. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461655 << i thought we were over this a few times ? yes, you can, many midwestern municipalities run isps, which are by and large BETTER than anything you can get in washington, which are the usual telcos. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461647 << stop globalwarming, citizen. the coming ice age is not pleased. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lmao "my vodka identifies as water - therefore it is good for me!"
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 01:01 phf: And those proverbial millions of records require really beefy machines. 8gb of ram, fast flash drives, etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461623 << me sobs at the alt reality where 8gb counts for really beefy. phuctor is on 1/4 tb, yo. unless it was 1/2 ? i forget. ☝︎☟︎
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mircea_popescu: ". like it's fucking 1700 all over again or some shit, and they're refugees from the Alchemics & Perpetuum Mobile society. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: rly game looks spiffy (on all of them!), as the data moves from kb to mb and the node count goes up and on and on, the thing (all of them!) collapses in a pile of uncaught, "nobodycouldhavepredicted" complexity explosions. and all this because idiot/voodoo expert came up with the brilliant idea of "hey, we make robot for your nuclear plant, and if it drops the pu brick you just pick it up by hand and put it back in the hopper
mircea_popescu: an expert rabbi, and finally verification be damned, the MEANING of moves can't even be extracted anymore. all this because instead of getting very clearly fundamental principles and sticking to them, they followed the "crazy shit stick on all sides of rifle" approach, with the predictable (and predicted) result that "you fuck it, it gets heavy, and you still don't hit large side of barn". so that's exactly what happens : ea
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:52 ben_vulpes: phf: i would like to hear about what kinds of misery you've found in datomic. not to doubt! never to doubt the misery of technology. but out of curiosity, and limits-finding by proxy.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461614 << ianacs, but : fwis the way all these "modern" computing stacks work, is they are made by people with absolutely no system design training, competence or understanding. as a result, they end up hand-crafting the tail. the ready equivalent would be a "new, modern" game of chess, where as the game progresses more and more moves have to be verified against a rulebook ; and then against ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:47 trinque: tbh I'm willing to consider that if you wrote too many layers of joins and views, you chose the wrong data structure in the beginning
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461603 << where too many reduces to two. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461588 << alf teh bee dog, diligently pushing people towards better os solutions. results vary. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:32 BingoBoingo: Classic trilema http://trilema.com/2013/margaritas-ante-porcos-as-it-were/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461556 << i was wondering when you'll get to that :) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: historically, stonemasons had a better time of it working for temples than gaols.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:31 asciilifeform: finally the ancient prophecy coming true, a genuine merger of software and conventional voodoo !
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461555 << ahaha, prolly great place to work, you know. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: poor hanno boeck & assorted shitbag parade, they don't even run systems with native bignum support, wtf are they gonna do now! 6723834688378347131962599764946917095897099 dun fit in javascript calculator mang, wat do!
a111: Logged on 2016-05-03 00:26 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 6723834688378347131962599764946917095897099 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Tim Fiedler <tfcoding@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FE99DB4C8A6980859D6C2322594C1B2CB4348ECB0F9BA3A7275285C7F3D02F7F
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-03#1461545 << nice, starting to get some serious numbers. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 23:56 asciilifeform: incidentally, didn't the derp already have a 'we did ALL the keyz' post LAST may ?
mircea_popescu: actually, lettuce make that url trend for "Hanno Böck caught lying", it'll no doubt do wonders for his career.
mircea_popescu: as little as a link to .... o wait, check it out... hacker news beleeted the comment pointing out he was caught lying last year. loller. anyway. as much as a link to <a href=http://trilema.com/2015/more-factored-rsa-keys-and-assorted-other-considerations/#selection-413.0-419.38>Hanno Böck caught lying.</a> will do
mircea_popescu: anyway, on the off chance anyone still has a twitter account at this point, feel free to bash his head in over https://twitter.com/hanno/status/727047168037642240
mircea_popescu: and holy shit does twitter load a lot of spurious junk.
mircea_popescu: he even has a gavinesque retarded face, also. what's with all these mongoloid cheeks everywhere in the dumbass "computing co-manatee" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 23:49 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu from beloved l0lcow, https://twitter.com/hanno/status/727179938017759232
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1461535 << lmao apparently somebody hasn't fully digested the lessons of history. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hanbot qntra has BingoBoingo 's tits, what. hater.
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Baruth skips truth, or when Jack went whack. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/05/02/baruth-skips-truth-or-when-jack-went-whack/
hanbot: not surprisingly the top referer is trilema at ~~1000, followed by qntra at ~~600 and phuctor at ~~80. << wait, qntra's doing 60% of trilema's load *without* tits? very impressive.
BingoBoingo: And no, the good fiber in the midwest is in exurbs. Usually connects to nearest urban center and a further urban center because
BingoBoingo: Turned out box rented back then was crap still running node at home and not advertising, programable version string for reason
ascii_deadfiber: if it's urban centres, i need those like i need second arse drilled.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, you get fiber in the middle west, that connects to hubs in different directions. We discovered redundancy 3 years ago and nao everything is grand.
BingoBoingo: And ascii_deadfiber thinks the middle west is horribru
BingoBoingo: wow, I thought you had swamp
BingoBoingo: HO HO HO TO YOU TOO FULL STOP
ben_vulpes: "you mean i don't have to think about the db!?!?"
ben_vulpes: 'tis the root of the success of Rails and friends