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mircea_popescu: Could I become an affiliate? Not at
this
time, although
this may change in
the future. Could I become a partner? Not at
this
time. Can I advertise on BitBet? Not at
this
time, although
this may change in
the future.
mircea_popescu: the bank fraud where a coupla clerks reprogrammed
the system
to have all cent fractions added up
to
their account is a very
typical chisel.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there's an underworld of hustlers and small
time, nonviolent criminals, with its own cant.
to chisel is
to use an informational asymmetry for a small, distributed gain.
mircea_popescu: $google "i used a little information for a chisel,
that's all"
danielpbarron: and i won't bother with
the faq since apparently ascii got a
text version of it
mircea_popescu: turns out
the veterinarian can not actually direct his practice by
the bellows of
the pack animal. who knew!
mircea_popescu: keeping
the "try
to chisel, lose your capital" rule it seems. oh and all
the scandal and "mp is a scammer"
that came from
that one, golly.
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the admin interface as-was does not provide a ready way
to cancel bets
that had already closed at
the whatever arbitrary
timepoint. but still, database is database, what.
mircea_popescu: "While
this may feel inconsistent (the proper resolution should be "CANCELED & REFUNDED"),
there is a limitation in
the current design of
the system
that prevents us from doing anything else." <<
this is an odd claim.
mircea_popescu: "One
thing
to be aware of:
the bets
that were cancelled because of
the
transition are still visible on
the site and have all been resolved as "NO". " uh... ok ?
mircea_popescu: well archive is doesn't see it either,
that's
the extent of my patience.
danielpbarron: was
trying
to write a qntra on it, but ran into
this serving-different-content-to-different-browsers weirdness
mircea_popescu: people's heads, you know.
their very own, private and most deserved punishment.
mircea_popescu: the REASON it bothered
the dudes is
that now
they couldn't
tell
themselves
that it's ok
they're not running amok among
the smiling she-herd, grabing all
the
tits, because "you can't get in
there". manifestly you can, and a foreigned=loser
to boot, so
they can^2, and what fucking difference does it make HE doesn't go japanese-subway-porn-berserk,
that's because he's a loser=foreigner, nevermind
that part!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, in egypt
trains (not
the "expensive" stuff where you get
the whole compartment and
there's a gay waiter in livery
to attend
to your every whim,
the common cattle hauling
things) are also gender segregated. and we (ie, me and chet) climbed in
the girl one, which amused
teh women no end and really bothered
the dudes.
mircea_popescu: AND if you get a hardon while needing
to pee, which is why you're
there, it'll be a bitch
to get yourself out of it as pressure is a signal.
mircea_popescu: but i also didn't pretend i'm a woman or anything. just, you know,
these sorts of rules, psshh.
they're lulzy because
the pretense is always one way (protect
teh modesty of
teh ladies, o noes, as if), whereas
the actual cause is exactly opposite (dudes can't fucking piss with women
there).
mircea_popescu: and in other news, "Dans leurs regards indifférents flottait la quiétude de passions journellement assouvies ; et, à
travers leurs manières douces, perçait cette brutalité particulière que communique la domination de choses à demi faciles, dans lesquelles la force s'exerce et où la vanité s'amuse, le maniement des chevaux de race et la société des femmes perdues."
a111: Logged on 2016-05-09 04:00
trinque: shinohai: if you do want
to
try your hand at lisp, you're more
than welcome
to
try your hand at extending
the wiki usefully
deedbot: danielpbarron rated zakorus123 1 << Euloran who bought some
threads from me
trinque will
try
to fit
this in head after a cycle in his regeneration pod
mircea_popescu: the laws get ever longer, so-and-so's rule, criteria and blabla, but
the solution comes no closer.
mircea_popescu: for
that matter,
the fed is spending all
the resources of pretty much everyone in finance speaking english
today
to
try and come out with a "passible solution"
to mp's problem,
that
they doublespeak as "market stability" and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: except
this requirement is in
there! "provide justification".
mircea_popescu: from "liberal"
to "lesswrong" and back again.
the feminists wish REALLY HARD for some primitives
they found
to be supported by it. etc.
mircea_popescu: and most of
the ustardian cults are ALSO predicated on some mystical voodoo solution
to it, also.
mircea_popescu: etc. you can not in fact find a "blue chip" as
the notion has been
tarnished
today
that does anything else as its business
than...
that.
mircea_popescu: what's google's/facebook's/etc supposed stock in
trade ? "oh, we
took
that EXACT db and... established prices of
things"
mircea_popescu: think for a moment, what is
the nsa supposedly doing ?
taking
THAT EXACT db and establishing "who's a
terrorist".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it ALSO is
the absolute matrix-mother of ALL usg-tronic "intellectual propety"
trinque: lol yeah,
teh republic's
trying
to bring back
teh lisp!
mircea_popescu: is
that
there are no real world applications
that make use of it.
trinque: shinohai: if you do want
to
try your hand at lisp, you're more
than welcome
to
try your hand at extending
the wiki usefully
☟︎ trinque: this week I'll look at getting
the wiki some wotauth
trinque: mod6 │ ;;later
tell
trinque so how can shinohai help build out wiki.deedbot.org? is
there some web-code he can write? or perhaps just preparing articles? <<
talked with him; all he needs
to do is register and can start making pages
mircea_popescu: today ? selected
to be dumber
than
the average house cat!
mircea_popescu: yes, in 1999
there was ~no way
to know wtf was on
the web, and so search engine
traffic was not selected for being dumber
than
the average lawyer.
mircea_popescu: or does it mean
the best predictor of how much rain water he has in his mouth is whether it's raining ?
mircea_popescu: so some douche found your site VIA GOOGLE ? when
this, in 2016 ? does
this mean he's smart ? knowledgeable ? connected ?
mircea_popescu: people are still clinging on
today
to
this "search engine
traffic is best
traffic" mantra, which made sense 10 or 15 years ago, without stopping
to
think for a moment how
the context changed.
mircea_popescu: so
they go around
the web clipping bits out of ever site ; and like a
tgp
they send a lot of
traffic
to paysites ; and like a
tgp
their
traffic is mostly shit. and etc.
mircea_popescu: hanbot it even implemented
the "sort
thumbs by how lcikced
they are"
thing!
hanbot: mircea_popescu but wouldja say google is a
tgp? or indistinct failbucket?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yeah. bezos is one of
the very few respectable us business heads.
mircea_popescu: change.org is, by and large, obama's personal blog - except he doesn't write much and
the comment section's self moderated. how is
this relevant, his 8 years are up.
danielpbarron: incidently, amazon is
the one
thing i ever bought something from after seeing an ad on
the web (that i can recall)
mircea_popescu: google had perhaps, in 2002 ; and certainly held great promise, for a decade-ish hence. but it's gone by now.
they like
to pretend like
they know shit, but a cursory examination of search results shows
the charade for what it is.
they know "a lot for a rock", which is great, except who cares about rocks.
mircea_popescu: anyway. amazon has made serious, defensible gains in
the important
topic of warehouse management.
that's worth dough.
mircea_popescu: hanbot i have nfi about etsy really, but stuff like amazon definitely has actual business power behind it. google likes
to pretends it does, also. i do not believe
them, and
the desperation fluff pieces a la "artificial intelligence" are so
transparently
tailored
to satisfy
the investor's dream needs (for an investor
that's apparently pretty stupid),
they count as proof
to me.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron
this is what's so amusing about it - shiot
the porn people had figured out 10-15-20 years ago,
these schmucks are still innocent of,
thoroughly.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, as you know, art projects,
they're worth exactly what
the [usg] rich patron says
they're worth, for as long as
that lasts (not usually long)
danielpbarron: i know it's
true of facebook; some youtuber made a
thing about how paying for offical promotion caused him
to get ~less~ clicks because all
the indians diluted out his actual fans
mircea_popescu: certainly no different for
the various "social media" derpitudes. facebook is so exactly myspace 2.0 it bleeds. reddit somehow
thinks it'll escape
the fate of digg, which is histerical for anyone who's been online for longer
than
they've spent in school. what's digg worth
today, incidentaly ? EXACTLY
the same pittance
they're all worth on
their own.
hanbot: well, facebook, etsy, change.org, reddit, entire browser history of
the avg. derp
mircea_popescu: hanbot well... gimme a list of
these, what're you
thinking about ?
hanbot: mircea_popescu do you
think
that's
true of all ugc hubs?
mircea_popescu: they claim
they're not a
tgp, i do not believe so.
that's
the crux of
teh matter.
they in point of fact contain no actual content past some
thumbnails
they cropped out of other people's porn shots.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i stand by it, if
the year were 2006 and
twitter was a
tgp, it'd be worth about 600k. which in
today's money is maybe 1mn.
danielpbarron: yep he was mayor of bridgeport back when bridgeport was
the place
to be, back when it still had industry
mircea_popescu: (which is WHY i
thought it notable barnum was ever mayor)
danielpbarron: i suppose
the social media sites can make money letting people like me pay
to force people who hate people like me
to see
the hateful
things
they hate seeing, which I have actually done :D
mircea_popescu: ah,
the history of "internet marketing" is long and interesting indeed.
mircea_popescu: then
this interracted with
the
tgp sorting algos : you'd end up with a list of
thumbnails sorted BY HOW MUCH INDIANS LIKED
THEM
mircea_popescu: but skimming being what it is, people always
tried
to feed
their stuff with shit [say, indian
traffic], which'd get high "productivity" but obviously low value (as what indian is spending 30 bux online in 2003?)
mircea_popescu: and so "traffic productivity" became an issue : if your
traffic productivity was > 100 (%)
that meant
that for every click into your
thing, you had >1 click
to send out, meaning
the
trades had
to send > 1 click in, and
then you could explode!
mircea_popescu: and it being a business, soon enough it became a matter of skimming
the milk. getting some
traffic
to come in meant you got clicks
to send
to all
the other guys you're
trading with which meant
they sent you
theirs,
mircea_popescu: this gave rise
to
the concept of "traffic productivity", ie, how many clicks you get per users.
mircea_popescu: so :
these
tgps "traded"
traffic with one another like crazy, on
the idea
that hey,
there's a guy here with cock in hand, best sort him out
to something he can get off
to asap. so very much reminiscent of
the egyptian shopkeepers who, if i inquired for an item
they didn't have, would run off
to a friend/cousin/competitor
that did,
then
take me
there and get a small cut of baksheesh.
mircea_popescu: the
thing had developped
to
the degree someone made a
thumb sorter sometime in 2002 or so, which sorted
the imagaes by how clicked
they were, so people could manage
their
tgps with less effort. as a side yielded all sorts of interesting anthropological results. for instance... hm. shit
this is getting more involved
than i
thought.
mircea_popescu: preview galleries] as an attempt
to entice "users"
to sign up with paysites. large affiliate model spawned up.
the idea being
that whern you click on an image, you're
taken somewhere -
that's blind click skim.
mircea_popescu: (blind click skim, which apparently is entirely unknown
to google, as per usual - jesus
that shit's worthless,
the answers it has you only actually need if you're retarded, and everything else it has no clue about - is
this concept from
the old days when internet porn still made money, but after
the glory days when it made serious money.
the silver age so
to speak. it consisted of a bunch of people making free
tgps [thumbnail