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mircea_popescu: the cost with a car should be 5% the car, 95% the gas. not 95% the car then sit around it listening to music.
mircea_popescu: rithm: right then we just devolve into some sort of ruling wot class << this is not properly called "devolve". this is improvement.
mircea_popescu: just like there's one global currency for everything, that's the nature of currencies whether they measure trust or capital or whatever form of that same underlying.
mircea_popescu: however you implement it, the situation in fact is that you have one global wot for everything.
mircea_popescu: jurov: the solution is to not have one global wot for everything << i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: now you can't escape the system << this is exactly true.
mircea_popescu: it's not enough to have high ratings from disconnected subgraphs.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: well nanotube should make it so you can always give ratings, or maybe base it on an L2 thing like assbot does <<< it already is. in order to be able to rate you need to be linked to google.
mircea_popescu: political views are just as valid as economical views. the distinction is not nearly as clear cut as you'd like it to imagine.
mircea_popescu: i thought it was more. anyway, for a long time kako had usagi + even if the consensus in the chan is -.
mircea_popescu: from this profile it becomes clear why he's dangerous : superficially trustworthy tool = mole.
mircea_popescu: people wanting to figure him out can ask mp and find out he's a total tool, and ask you and find he's trustworthy with btc
mircea_popescu: you can. which is why i didn't bitch at you when i finally beheaded him.
mircea_popescu: in general tho, the wot benefits from fostering variety of approach. centralising a "set of rating practices" is actualy a valid attack
mircea_popescu: i won't presume to interfere in experts manner and expertise.
mircea_popescu: well, how the fuck would i know ? maybe that's hoiw your magic works.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: rithm: but it's only harmful if 'total points' is a thing. joe schmoe isn't going to change thhe gettrust between you and others. <<< if the wot db ends up larger than ten blockchains it may become a problem to host.
mircea_popescu: the wot would really work just as good as a balnced ternary sistem really.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony some of us are supposedly very good at reading people.
mircea_popescu: rithm: no one will document that and take it seriously << a) no you can't and b) i seem to recall footage of hruschev with his shoe.
mircea_popescu: so it's at least in principle and often practically difficult for a third party to dispute your ratings as appropriate or inappropriate.
mircea_popescu: that's the big point there. your rating quantity is not about them at all. it's about you. you're describing yourself, as a repository of knowledge.
mircea_popescu: but of a meta-question. you're basically scoring yourself. "hopw likely am i to be able to answer someones' q's about this guyu"
mircea_popescu: maybe i trade 5k btc a week with someone and i can't go past 1.
mircea_popescu: maybe i know everything i need to know about a girl from seeing her tits online. that's a solid 10.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the new orthodoxy being that ratings reflect the quality of your knowledge of the person. not the deal.
mircea_popescu: "how did you manage a total score of 5000 while nobody of the 300 people i know ever dealt with you ?"
mircea_popescu: mike_c srsly, think about it. if his score implies a 40% probability people you know know him and yet nobody does.. isn;'t that informative ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell genericpersona are you looking to get negrated or what exactly is it ?
mircea_popescu: hopefully within not so very long having to pay someone already in the wot to be able to get in the wot will be common practice, and then all will be well.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is not optional, bitcoin is mandatory. failure to get in line is punished, not tolerated.
mircea_popescu: and slavery is right and proper. if you're not into the wot, that is at your peril, and at great cost to you.
mircea_popescu: it is GOOD that existent users can make new users unable to become users. this is the bitcoin implementation of slavery.
mircea_popescu: one could keep a machine on non stop to just bloat nanotube's db, making accts, rating everyone, rewash
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: i think all users should be able to give ratings; doesn't matter if they are trolls or scammers << it's not really a good idea, because spamming.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: nanotube: why show "total points" on rating page? i thought that was supposed to be a meaningless number. << it's not entirely meaningless. it reflects the probability of a user being in your network.
mircea_popescu: Blazedout419: for a business bad ratings can hurt more than for a regular user << this is widely held but empirically disproven. consider the muchly discussed case of bitbet.
mircea_popescu: According to the records, the first and only outgoing call that was ever placed utilizing the account was to my undercover telephone number. This caff was pfaced on March 17, 2014 at 4:31 p.m. and went unanswered. Jones received three incoming calls that were answered. One call was from me and is detailed in this affidavit. The additjonal answered incoming telephone calls appear to have been from telemarketers.
mircea_popescu: THIS WAS BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP WITH SECURITY IN MIND!!!11
mircea_popescu: The records turther detailed that the application was installed on an Apple iPhone that was titled 'Matthew Jones iphone. << secure minded fellow, he didn't use the carrier phone #, he got a special app.
mircea_popescu: o bro. so why was this guy connected to bitcoin anyway ? seems like an ordinary two bit crook with a beanie baby on the coffee table
mircea_popescu: the part where they degrade the arrangement to the point they talk to the guy on the phone, and then send direct dollars to his bank acct...
mircea_popescu: ahahah not really above and beyond to catch him, just probing the shit out of it.
mircea_popescu: On October 9, 2013, I made contact with CALIGIRL utilizing the Bitmessage program and the 'trusted' Bitmessage address CALIGIRL provided. << nice use of airquotes there lol
mircea_popescu: well this particular texan cali girl will probably be happier in the pen than on the street anyway.
mircea_popescu: what is needed is perhaps more in depth explaining of how great the system is, as it is.
mircea_popescu: jurov the point is not to give a n accurate list of accounts. the point is to have checkpoints showing you're not spending it on booze.
mircea_popescu: jurov what's the concern, that a bid gets hit just as you post ?
mircea_popescu: jurov this could work. you publish the list once a month on your blog, as mike describes, then i verify the totals.
mircea_popescu: how the heck does one structure a depositor insurance thing in btc ;/
mircea_popescu: would you be interested in working out a consumer insurance scheme ?
mircea_popescu: (i know you think you know how it works, but srsly, read that thing)
mircea_popescu: but essentially, the barriers are there to help you not to hinder you. like railings on mountain roads.