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Diablo-D3: I wont sell until we hit $1000
cads: mircea_popescu: I guess I have my new research questions
mircea_popescu: anyway, as best i can determine the only workable mixer paradigm is what mpex employs :
mircea_popescu: maybe there's parts of that i don't understand, but afaik...
cads: unless these things give us provable cryptographic guarantees of anonymity, I don't trust it
cads: I need to see a theoretical paper on the function of anonymization mixers too
cads: mircea_popescu: it sounds like your account is not much better. I will have to read the paper for myself and faithfully learn the scheme.
tiberiusiv: as i predicted
mircea_popescu: a trolled by his own site is i.
cads: mircea_popescu: yes, I understand those reasonably well
cads: I definitely do need to read the hashcash papers and the original satoshi paper
cads: so I don't know how much to believe
mircea_popescu: options closed just in time i swear.
cads: mircea_popescu: I've read shamir's paper where shamir tracks cashflows from originator to recipient, even through large networks of obfuscation
Bowjob: that knife.. i can feel it
Namworld: I'll go sell lints
Namworld: SR is a free market really... I guess anyone can peddle just about anything
Bowjob: I went to SR today, just to check things out.. You could actually buy candies with it
Bowjob: my old account didnt work for batch 3 shipment, i guess i have to register again
Bowjob: Also, I am considering an increase in the price of the remaining IPO shares upon receipt of the company's batch 2 Avalon. Given the diminishing yield current shareholders have experienced while we await our first ASIC hardware I think it's fair to reward those that have held fast.
TradeFortress_: yep, I've got better ones on betofbitcoin
Bowjob: honestly, i dont see the ppoint to switching btc for fiat
Bowjob: bull to the rescue i see some buying
mircea_popescu: "Also, I am considering an increase in the price of the remaining IPO shares upon receipt of the company's batch 2 Avalon. Given the diminishing yield current shareholders have experienced while we await our first ASIC hardware I think it's fair to reward those that have held fast."
mircea_popescu: i like how bfl's credibility goes.
Bowjob: i bet lucif is partying right now, saying he called this from 3 months ago
Bowjob: I see dump after dump
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress_ i think it's safe to blame the entire coin* fiasco for it.
KRS1: i was wobbed huh
KRS1: im still waiting for my BFL SC I ordered in Aug. anyone know anything about that?
KRS1: I treaded mircea_popescu how?
Namworld: I'd really like to see the 100 breached.
Namworld: I can't wait to see
Bowjob: i have 1800 hrs clocked in that game
KRS1: Am I wrong by saying it looks like the market has peaked and is now heading downward?
cads: I think it will determine the long term fate of the btc
cads: well I'd better know how to speak bitcoin before the hiring managers at large hedge funds realize it :)
mircea_popescu: i would guess about a third of the best minds of this generation are more or less discreetly circling the matter.
cads: I can turn this into a virtual finance university in time
cads: mircea_popescu: at least I will not be competing with well established finance phds already working in the field :)
mircea_popescu: with the current run up i'm not sure i'd call it low cost, but it IS moderate
cads: mircea_popescu: I see it as a low entry cost into a promising finance research field
cads: mircea_popescu: at this point I'd like only to understand how to imagine, visualize, and refine an mpex investment strategy
cads: mircea_popescu: so I could work with a 500 BTC base an recoup the entry cost over a handful of months?
mircea_popescu: last calculation i recall something like 2k btc total trade volume justifies the fee
cads: since I'm most interested in options, and since these traditionally have theory, I'm now wondering if any of these guys have paid analysts to derive appropriatate new pricing models for these options
mircea_popescu: i would imagine some do
mircea_popescu: i don't follow the logic
cads: I mean only that it seems they must guarantee that their decisions are of high quality
Namworld: I already paid the cost of the seat plenty
cads: can I learn what investors at the exchange do?
cads: right now I'm not reading anything technical with the intention of trying to understand it :)
cads: I can generally eventually converge on an understanding of technojargon, even without help
cads: I may even mean that as a compliment
cads: I want to shake his hand and punch him at the same time
cads: I'm glad I'm not hallucinating, then. :)
cads: mircea_popescu: as of this moment what I see when I look at mpex.co is a hellacious mass of legal jargon smattered with quantitative data readouts :)
Namworld: VTX doing incredibly well I believe
cads: hey mircea_popescu, I just noticed the romanian version of your charter
cads: mircea_popescu, I think I must have seen your name around the BTC sites and community before today.
cads: mircea_popescu: I only know a little lore about him - I'm not a student of MIT
cads: the correct answer is "I"m sorry, none of them have PhDs"
mircea_popescu: i thought im the only one that still remembers that old codger
cads: tiberiusiv: this is why I always thought it strange to find myself in georgia!
jcpham: will he show up if i say his name?
tiberiusiv: franktank: i thought avalon was using batch #2 money to pay for batch #1
jcpham: am i missing eskimobob right now?
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv haha i'll have to ask i guess.
mircea_popescu: tho i missed a zero.
cads: mircea, I am unfamiliar with mpoe. Main point of entry?
mircea_popescu: Franktank really, they do ? i've not seen a good start-up in months.
Namworld: I have a hard time believe R&D part.
mircea_popescu: Franktank i've seen some not so impressed people comment but i've not looked into it myself.
Namworld: hmm... perhaps you could ask mircea. MPEx's bot happens to put bids and asks on options traded at the exchange. I am unsure how it is done.
cads: hrm, I should make it clear that I want to design valuation methods for BTC options
Namworld: I can't really see much more that what's already available.
cads: mostly I'd like to hear ideas about how the design of BTC currency Options will likely proceed
cads: I think it may be difficult to do this absent a risk free interest rate, but I'd love to hear someone's enlightened thoughts on that
cads: but I'm actually pretty ignorant about the topic and would love to talk to someone that could help me sketch out the expected phases if a research project intending to produce option valuation model
cads: I have a couple professors as school which I am prepared to bug about how we may build options valuation on top of BTC options
cads: hey guys, I'd like to learn about the leading thinkers in the BTC assets realm, and learn about the current state of the art
Namworld: (clarification notes: I'm getting tired of the price going wild)
Namworld: I wonder where it would actually be if we calculated the exponential curve's formula and determined the expected price in 2 months based on that...
mircea_popescu: i wonder.
Namworld: About the AMC thing, I like the name on the invoice for their ASIC miners.
mircea_popescu: actually i got that sent to me :D
ThickAsThieves: i'll pm him
jurov: is he around ? or i can look up deprived's code for you?
ThickAsThieves: i'll give it to Deprived
ThickAsThieves: i have an idea
ThickAsThieves: i'm registering
ThickAsThieves: what i mean is
jurov: wish you good luck but i think it doesn't work that way xD
jurov: ThickAsThieves i'm here.. thanks to psu failure
benkay: "I have people for that"
smickles: well, considering it was a joke, i don't think we made solid arrangements
mircea_popescu: wait. i forgot all about this. when was she scheduled to appear ?
smickles: above me! ha! i has no manners
mircea_popescu: (also i've been there miltiple times but this iirc was the first time when i was alone)
mircea_popescu: she said "i love you"