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mircea_popescu: well, i have no idea why my nodes are offline. i also have not
the
time/patience
to check up on
them daily like
they were carrying my child or some shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform funny, of
the 5,
two are kind-of behind also
ben_vulpes: dun
think mine ooms
terrifically often. not in my personal memory at least.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 20:46 ben_vulpes: haven't we had
this
thread before, of
that
the network is not paricularly enumerable, and with
the malleability of version strings
that counting
them is somewhat less
than pointless?
trinque: or perhaps
their scanner issues heathen commands
trinque: it is however keeping up with
the blockchain, so perhaps I've got say... a curated connection
to
the network :p
trinque: though as I check its log,
there is a great deal of "socket no message in first 60 seconds"
trinque: deedbot.org isn't on
there, was
ben_vulpes: haven't we had
this
thread before, of
that
the network is not paricularly enumerable, and with
the malleability of version strings
that counting
them is somewhat less
than pointless?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: i'm supposed
to give a shit about 21.co?
ben_vulpes: what is
this website
that counts nodes
BingoBoingo: <phf> 1,6k is for a standalone, i'm sure rowhouses are cheaper.
they have a few standalones for sale, dc- "cheap" 600k or so << lol, divide by 3 or 4 for cheap here
mircea_popescu: (but since we digressed - and
this ineptitude leads
them into all sorts of lulz. for instance, SPEECH was protected by constitution. as in,
the activity of gossipd. not WRIT, such as an imaginary right
to publish slander. etc.)
mircea_popescu: (except englishtards, being idiots as awlays, use "speech"
to denote precisely not-speech, ie writ. precisely because
they used writ for some legalese arcana five century prior. but we digress.)
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying,
the way communication works irl is precisely like contemplated gossipd scheme, and exactly NOT like bbs/irc/webetc.
mircea_popescu: group of girlies walking down
the street, you see one you like, and
talk
to her.
the other idiots you don't care about giggle or w/e. so ?
mircea_popescu: and it's how
things work irl, also.
that
they don't work
that way online is because online is fucktarded beyond conception.
mircea_popescu: but if i'm not, i'll never know.
the situation where i'm friends
to you, and you say hi
to me in a channel of 10`000 people i don't know ; and
the situation where i'm friends with you and you say hi
to me in a pm are identical.
mircea_popescu: and if i'm also friends with phf, phf will report
to me having heard you say "hi".
mircea_popescu: if you said it in pm
to me...
then you say it once,
to me.
mircea_popescu: if you say it in #trilema which is an alias for (me you and phf)
then you said it 3x : once
to each
mircea_popescu: so if you want
to say "hi"
to 5 people, you say hi 5
times
to one at a
time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there is no such
thing as "to X Y", gossipd being a pairwise protocol.
mircea_popescu: obviously, nothing prevents you from running firehose mode. but , just like wireshark makes no guarantee as
to
the literary or poetic merits of random wire captures,
mircea_popescu: no, just, you filter it out. if you want
to hear what your friend A says
to B, must make B your friend.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. you can not possibly hear
the
talk
to and from outsiders. you just discard all
that.
phf: how do you deal with situation of in-wot A
talking
to out-wot B?
mircea_popescu: in fact,
their derpy "secret services" universally aspire (and universally fail)
to be exactly
this.
mircea_popescu: if however you pick
the whores you entertain carefully, it's empowering
to a degree uknown by nazi derps.
mircea_popescu: gossip irl works exactly
the same way, if you just
talk
to
the woman your parents picked and your cousins, it's suicideware.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 14:43 mircea_popescu: and
the (otherwise spurious) concept of "a chan" reduces
to "a list of specified broadcast recipients".
mircea_popescu: let's
talk of something else.
the richest korea makes my stomach
turn.
mircea_popescu: electric stoves are ok ; but
they better be gas-stove standard, not a lulzy
teapot warmer + microwave.
mircea_popescu: also wtf is with
the lulzvoltage ; and with
the poorly provisioned water and often inexitent gas pipes. etc.
mircea_popescu: but
these days... wtf is with
the paper walls, and
the attendant fire sprinklers and fire drills and whatnot ? you couldn't pay me
to live in a place with firesprinklers.
mircea_popescu: actually most of
the stuff ustartds do
these days is insufferable. used
to be
that if you wanted proper floor spacing and decent sized fridges you had
to go
to
the us. which is how people ended up in california.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but nobody does it for rentals
that will be promptly shat in again by
the usual clientele << rent control ruins real estate huh.
mircea_popescu: apparently
this is a permanent item, usg-born orcs forcibly integrated by usg, revert
to
the
tribal arrangements
that are adequate
to
their needs and capacities.
mircea_popescu: there's stories in
the us proletcult folklore about
the regime deciding
to socially integrate gypsies, ending up with indoor fireplace fed from what used
to be
the parquet...
☟︎ mircea_popescu: too many detached family houses on
two levels waiting for
the
treatment.
mircea_popescu: but, as with all
things, nobody's going
to bother putting in
the effort for a shitty apt.
mircea_popescu: even
that, yes.
this is a whole profession, buying property managed into
the dirt by idiots and making it shine. pays pretty well,
too, most hands-on
types end up doing
that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform>
the mold in
the
toilet is
there
to stay, until
the place is bulldozed. << nah, copper sulphate will wipe it.