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mircea_popescu: "safeauto's do the jingle makes insurance advertising fun" ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, why's he not using pastebin or w/e.
mircea_popescu: "here's the archive tool and here's the single url tool, i know, i'll use them backwards!"
mircea_popescu: who the fuck uses wget instead of curl anyway, you know ?
asciilifeform: the lulzy bit is that the thing hosting the dropper is dead.
mircea_popescu: no ? someone trying to pipe bash through apache ?
asciilifeform: the real mega-question is ~where~ this worx
mircea_popescu: da fuck is this
mircea_popescu: per the drunken walk model, once you're hitting sqrt(1) of references in cache you've read enough :D
Framedragger: [dodges the "that's not the proper translation" discussion]
Framedragger: by all means, keep reinforcing the "nothing outside the text" notion ! but yeah, good to revisit
mircea_popescu: ah ? well then.
Framedragger: didyouknow, someone wrote a graphing library which mimicks xkcd graph style. iirc it's actually quite nice, insofar as hipster things can be nice. shitlikethat...
mircea_popescu: lmao omfg. dude published the 2012 census with a pgp (v2.0!) 1kb rsa key ; and he claims to be inspired by... XKCD!!! to do a fucking hilbert curve. omfg the unit-square covering discussions were all in vain, xkcd is the source.
Framedragger: you're still using $framework? GO BACK TO YER CAVE
asciilifeform: there was a pretty sharp transition from, e.g., mccarthy to jwz
mircea_popescu: but there is no yesterday of computing!
asciilifeform: sure but if he lives today ?
mircea_popescu: part of the history of medicine, like it or not, mr progress.
Framedragger: well i did use "folks" which isn't a word from the most high register so to speak :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey, they got a cert.
asciilifeform: in what universe does it make sense to regard the imbeciles as 'cs folks' ?
mircea_popescu: yes, alf bitching about this is in the logs :)
Framedragger: no but for real. thing is, cs folk usually haven't even read their own "definitive" texts (shannon, e.g.)
Framedragger: yeah i can't hold interesting convos with these cs people for long sometimes, it's like, fuck you humanity you suck
mircea_popescu: pretending to have a cs program that's all linguistics-free seems to me the height of ignoramity, but whatevs.
mircea_popescu: which is shameful, really, seeing how ITS THE OTHER FUCKING COMPILER.
mircea_popescu: it's just that the majority of computer folk are uncouth and didn't read their linguistics and semiology.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger pretty much there already.
Framedragger: hm true...
Framedragger: wonder if whole log would become references to itself, il n'y a pas de hors-texte and all that
Framedragger: man i need some tool which autosearches from logs while i type in irc
asciilifeform: Framedragger: this is in the old logz
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform , there's not even as many computers as there are people and they're already beating us in go :D
Framedragger: something something avoids having to take care of timeouts (is stateless) by putting custom info in packets / "SYN cookies" something
mircea_popescu: the only problem is, i'd expect you will receive ~1/3 of the address space as hits.
Framedragger: "With [... some custom] changes, ZMap can comprehensively scan for a single TCP port across the entire public IPv4 address space [on a 10Gbps pipe, looks like] in 4.5 minutes given adequate upstream bandwidth." https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/woot14/woot14-adrian.pdf - not bad
mircea_popescu: just to eval it. in general the zmap idea is right and proper.
Framedragger: but yeah need to think of bigger scales here.. short-term aws/azure farms, whatnot
Framedragger: nono, i just mean, i can just use that particular machine for dirty work, cause i can't use that ip for other purposes anyway, it's tainted
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tor is uselessly slow
Framedragger remembers he has a disposable tor exit node on digitalocean, can use that one
mircea_popescu: wtf what a waste. titpressed titcakes! wants!
asciilifeform: that was my first thought !
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i don't understand, wtf aren't they making pastries this way! at first i thought that's dough on her tits for sure... but no, just paint ?
Framedragger: k i'll try and do that (a bit later)
mircea_popescu: please do a different /16 on an aws just to get a handle on how much it costs.
asciilifeform: that there's the general minus of scanning
Framedragger: i'm considering running zmap on high-throughput server to quickly get all internet-connected machines in ipv4 space, and then feeding that into ssh-keyscan. may be more efficient. also need to get some disposable ip addresses or something, cause according to internet my coupla server IPs will soon be added to some shitlist
Framedragger: this was using single machine only - scanning with two now, will add third one when i have a few min. but yeah it's overall slow i guess you could say
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: with timeout per host set to 5sec (default) and unaltered parallel scanning setting (ssh-keyscan does parallel stuff pretty well but it may not be best for scanning huge numbers of hosts; case in point: default version for ubuntu 14.04 terminates if a single remote host closes conn prematurely - needed to patch this..), it took ~65 minutes (i've started logging timestamps afterwards but this is prob quite accurate). this
mircea_popescu: Framedragger how long did covering the /16 take ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: (got 2768 ssh-rsa keys on a test run on a populated /16... this will be fun.)
mircea_popescu: sure, sure. and why do i need to know how the gcc trick works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc it was some variation of 'you don't need to know how magic trick works'
mircea_popescu: in any case, even the proposition that somehow "use" is good while "enjoyment" bad, first to be supported off public tolerance, mandated ; latter to be punished stinks to high heavens of outright evil protestantism bullshit.
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asciilifeform: i think it croaked long ago
mircea_popescu: $google tits cunt fuck piss shit motherfucker cocksucker
mircea_popescu: anyway, tongue in cheek evolution of latin affero.
asciilifeform: (google claims it translates 'swindler')
asciilifeform: next we find that aferist is not english word!!?
mircea_popescu: in which we find aferation is not an english word. a well. it denotes one who appears to have a lot to do / be in the thick of things / busy, but really just pretending. a george costanza of sorts.
mircea_popescu: same fucking reason the poor guy goes : cuz he can't make sense of the world around him
mircea_popescu: why the fuck does the rich guy go to church.
asciilifeform: wake me up when anybody anywhere performs this type of seppuku.
mircea_popescu: because not intellectually up to the task of not following.
asciilifeform: why would a successful (in the financial own-legs sense) heresiarch 'go follow a master' ?
mircea_popescu: it's unpleasant to watch in a context where the others say anything but "hey, you're having these problems because you're an uppity ronin slave. how about you drop the aferations and go follow a master."
asciilifeform: it is always quite painful to watch.
mircea_popescu: this is not belief. this is an uppity ronin slave.
asciilifeform: where fella decides he 'believes' x,y,z but is not intellectually up to the task of systematizing
asciilifeform: there is this thing,
mircea_popescu: is it the thickness of the baseball penisbat ?
mircea_popescu: what is the difference between http://66.media.tumblr.com/c407c30b01293c9ff352c63a7b5bddf5/tumblr_n4yj3752Wj1s8fyi8o1_1280.jpg (dressed for appreciation) and http://67.media.tumblr.com/566f03f4f3eedef6a9b03decd8443885/tumblr_n2cb74nquJ1solxm8o1_400.gif (practical use) ?
asciilifeform: 'Printer patterns to make a useful, practical object (i.e., functional rather than decorative) must be free because they are works made for practical use. '
asciilifeform: i'm beginning to remember this tho
mircea_popescu: $google "I think all works meant for practical uses must be free, but that does not apply to music, since music is meant for appreciation, not for practical use."
asciilifeform: wai wut where is the 'practical use' line from
mircea_popescu: see, now THIS i hate.
mircea_popescu: does a conference a week since 1995, hasn't yet explained the difference between things "not meant for practical use" and the rest. wtf is impractical use.
mircea_popescu: any program i ever cared about enough to bust open was meant for appreciation. such as fucking civ ffs.
mircea_popescu: anyway - same with music, because "it's not meant for use, but for appreciation". it's a fucking lasagna, what the fuck does this man actually believe ?
asciilifeform: and generally one had to swallow what was on the plate.
asciilifeform: but it is worth remembering that rms began his thing in a time when hardware was rare and precious
mircea_popescu: no ; then you don't yet know. the time to review is when you notice the walls.
asciilifeform: yeah well. the time to review the priors is before you box yourself in
mircea_popescu: if anything, free hardware is more important/useful/valuable than free software, because i've busted open way more programs than chips.
mircea_popescu: why not just you know, review thew priors. LIKE SANE FUCKING PEOPLE.
asciilifeform: folks who paint themselves into a logical corner tend to do this.
mircea_popescu: they always puzzled me, these inconsistent derps. jimbo wales thinks he's a "libertarian", and "objectivist". one that somehow thinks corporate spying is bad, but "the government should put as many cameras up as possible - they'd prevent crimes".
asciilifeform: and i think i frothed about it here even.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, you ever made any sense of the rms notion that "free hardware" is nothing like "free software" ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well, i'm not THAT curious about them.
mircea_popescu: im not atm persuaded they exist more than "bfl delivery" existed back in the bitbet bet days.