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mircea_popescu: well not done with the logs and pinging ascii, but with this skein
mircea_popescu: this is, in so many words, the whole hope of humanity.
mircea_popescu: obviously some kids will do fine in any conceivable arrangement.
mircea_popescu: ah but outside of personal experience, i'm discussiong a system.
mircea_popescu: it is when everyone else is taught to get out of your way because you are better than them.
mircea_popescu: so i guess in a sense the observed difference readily reduces to "well, the us is a true popular democracy : they have no privileged highschool, everyone goes to the prole vocational crapolade"
mircea_popescu: this attitude was principally what distinguished the privileged hs from the prole "vocational" w/e.
mircea_popescu: i mean you could be cool other ways, but an inability to ace something meant you, in so many words, sucked.
mircea_popescu: at the time in question, you literally could not go on a date if you sucked in school.
mircea_popescu: this resulted in a very docile and obedient population. they, for instance, always took notes. we never did.
mircea_popescu: e common man - or woman - so they'd not be embarassed if teacher asked followups and b) was credibly something they could come up with while still correct above a C lvl)
mircea_popescu: you know it's bizarre, because it didn't work that way in romania of yore. we had a pretty sweet tacit agreement where the slower girls could copy for exams. generally there was a boy-genius in charge for any subject (chemistry was HARD and a chick did it, but otherwise was boys) and the guy in charge usually prepared a "for the class" version of the test (something that gave good marks but was a) comprehensible for th
mircea_popescu: decimation and less tits. the few (like,4 or so) actual participants at the things i ever talk too, all 4 mostly went there for the braless wonders in attendance. it was apparently THE place to meet chicks.
mircea_popescu: the result being a scary fucking combo of psychotic expressivity (they also drink a lot, ukrainian style).
mircea_popescu: the interesting thing with those people however is that they speak and old, and for this reason arguably more powerful version of romanian (still with the very romanian "all other languages are just romanian badly pronounced") and they're all fluent in russian. especially the huy-russian part of russian.
mircea_popescu: planeta moldova being pretty much the only claim to cultural fame/intellectual achievement of the imaginary country of "moldavia".
mircea_popescu: maybe not as clean ultimately but certainly cleaner per unit effort.
mircea_popescu: suddenly the coder kid discovers he can be a much better lawyer than most judges specifically because he can read a cleaner version of the text than people who learned it on the "linguistics" path.
mircea_popescu: "just because you say goto 10 don't expect me to care, nitwit"
mircea_popescu: at which point sudden immunity to say salesmen develops.
mircea_popescu: then one readily progresses, about the age of 16 or so, to realise that necessarily the same is true of their own naitve language
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only correct way to learn english, if you ask me.
mircea_popescu: decimation it's a curse hiding a blessing : in learning english as the pronounceable pigdin of computer symbols, one learns to disrespect the social conventions the language carries otherwise.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: satisfying log. keep up the good work. << i guess we're all labrats in kako's little lab experiment.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, i used to include 10. Merge Merge instructions in basic programs.
mircea_popescu: the word merge was there, which in romanian means "it works" (technically, "it goes") and is often a colloquialism "-merge ? -merge, merge" roughly works to "how goes it ? " "okay I guess".
mircea_popescu: in this spirit : my old z80 clone had an english "codeword" instruction set printed out right on the kbd, as was fashionable at the time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and we always wondered what an 'EGGOG' was. << ahaha that's so cute.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: but for desktop machining - perfect. so long as you aren't in a hurry. << well no, see, electricity is still sold by the watt. whether you're in a hurry or not, you still need same wattage, so still are beholden to the same (rather high) cost. so i suppose "so long as you're making something small enough for your fun doing it to be worth the 0.001 cent to 1/4 dollar price transition"
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: it's just a trilema article written like shakespeare, no? << it's the merchant of venice ye lout! :D
mircea_popescu: " you will need to swap the electrolyte a few times, and clean the cavity (at least with a nail) from the products of electrolysis." from the imgur in question. this is not strictly true : in some cases the electrolyte products are protective, in some cases however they are not. depends a lot what we're drilling. (this is roughly why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say.)
mircea_popescu: part of why the wot is so fucking useful. "you're not a ceo until mp says you're a ceo" has, along with its excellent oppressive potential, some incredible value in practice.
mircea_popescu: the problem with letting people self identify instead of having third parties identify them is that people will mis-selfidentify.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: with little-to-none attention to principles << the reason would be that chemistry is not a science. physics is the science. if the kids wanted the principles they'd go for physics. if they didn't that means they don't wish to understand the thing, but merely you know... be engineers :D
mircea_popescu: just strong enough to rig it to girl's bits productively, all sorts of surprising uses.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform:
http://imgur.com/AR8UVBW << quoted for the battery. now that EXACT battery, so exact that a vague outline thereof is the most that's needed and the most a person of taste and discrimination would ever draw, for fear of being you know, boringingly fastidious, is a 4.5 volt 3 cell mangan oxide battery that was the most important element of my childhood.
mircea_popescu: "the geese are not roused by the germans, but by the crows outside the gate".
mircea_popescu: makes one feel better about onesefl if can at least claim bitcoin is like you know, "that thing that's bee going on forever at the outskirts".
mircea_popescu: which is why i was talking about "in ron paul terms" yest.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the actual loser in the us, ie, the actual us, is desperate to attach the current representation of their eventual doom to something that's a perennial loser.
mircea_popescu: for this same reason a newtonian physics professor would rather entertain phlogiston than string theory.
mircea_popescu: "look how right we are, and how relevant to the future and general affairs as a going concern : even this bitcoin thing is about something we discuss."
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: I just don't get why they think it's all about some party << because if it's about something in their system then that validates the system in question.
mircea_popescu: the rough equivalent would be, peasant goes to plow field, finds roman coin trove, mounts them in his nose, goes about town like he's invented african tribalism.
mircea_popescu: instead of the more normal 1. learn french ; 2. read some fragments of rousseau at local library ; 3. proceed to read the 200 years' worth of discussion on rousseau
mircea_popescu: it's starting to amze me, the natural cargo-cult-ish inclination of most english space dwellers. it's a sort of, 1. learn french ; 2. read some fragments of rousseau at local library, by themselves ; 3. start blog to impart your discovery that you call "the social deal" to the world.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Tech Visionary George Gilder: "Bitcoin is the Libertarian Solution to the Money Enigma." - Reason.com << what is this, "i've caught up to 2011 let me tell you what i have now discovered" ?
mircea_popescu: decimation: to me the obvious use for plastic turd is to make molds for metal pouring << metal pouring is a very iffy proposition tho.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Bitcoin1011: Is he involved in other mobile apps in the space for my reference? << no, he's the resident talent scout.
mircea_popescu: but for that matter, so am i, the kids with the apps haven't yet discovered bitcoin pays better.
mircea_popescu: there is some 3d ablative tech sort-of similar, but mostly limited to medicinal use
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc plasma cutting is 2d for a very similar reason : too damned expensive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually one should be able to anneal in jungle conditions. put gun on rock, put lens on gun around 7am. by early morning next...
mircea_popescu: you know one of you two needs to get a real name thing going. it's so fucking difficult for me to keep diametric and decimation apart in my head.
mircea_popescu: decimation consumer society loves plastic. it'd shove it in its collective vagina if it could.
mircea_popescu: are on the record stating something like "well these two idiots came in, one a complete nobody , the other a dork, but we figured... whatever, it's just a script, we've not spent that much money on it"
mircea_popescu: somewhat vaguely related : the nbc producers that decided to greenlight seinfeld, the largest grossing production in the history of nbc and the thing that even made sitcoms a thing
mircea_popescu: which it is. and yet... the discussion isn't whether it looks promising (in the terms of today)