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deadweasel: i fear .81
mod6: deadweasel: ahh. i suppose that's a good way to go atm.
mod6: what version are you guys liking at the moment? i've got .7, but its a ways behind yet.
deadweasel: no, i would not put my keys on ec2 lol.. but thanks for double checking.. :D
mircea_popescu: "I am still having little problems figuring out the accounting software and using it for proper reporting.
mjr___: dude...i hate to admit it, but the US military is kinda cool...
mjr___: well, once it is up and running, i think it'll run on a micro
mod6: i wish they accepted btc @ aws
deadweasel: i know. it's been enough so far. bitcoind may crash it tho....
mjr___: yep, so i leave it as t1.micro till i need to install something, boost it to m1.medium, then lower it down again
mjr___: i have one instance, i just ratchet up processing power if i need it
mod6: yeah, maybe i should just get a few instances up there
mjr___: yeah, i was curoius
mod6: i need to get a farm of bitcoinds
mod6: just a good temp spot to do a tx to, at least thats what I use it for. my bitcoind is so far behind it grinds my hd to catch it up
mjr___: yeah, i have bitcoin-qt running on 3 computers
mod6: i need to run my own bitcoind's again...
mod6: haha, right. if i would have checked first, i'd have done a diff addr.
mod6: ThickAsThieves: i've got one going into blockchain.info too -- so we'll see what happens.
mjr___: shit, i have to run to reddit and post that bitcoin is hacked
ThickAsThieves: i have a tx that only shows 2 confs on blockchain.info, yet has cleared into the destination (mtgox) already
jurov: i have 230161
ChaangNoi: yeah, i was wtf for a sec
mod6: last block i see is 230145
mjr___: diff change was yesterday i thouhght
jurov: yes the bet is mine. and i commented on that innovation rant.
mircea_popescu: i thouight you didn't agree regulations are there to protect the litytle guy.
mjr___: mircea_popescu: good article, but i feel like it doesn't account for the "sheepness" of americans, see: stanford experiment
jurov: oh, i rather put the bet on natural decay premise
MJR__: same in this scenario I think
MJR__: jurov: I agree, being scared and being scammed are two completely different things
MJR__: we'll see...I am not vouching for them. if they put up 1k bitcoins, is trust them up to 1k bitcoins
punkman: I think they will either run away with the coins, or lose everything due to incompetence
MJR__: so, I don't judge
MJR__: I love these discussions
mircea_popescu: i dun care who her dad is.
MJR__: but I see your point, my point is that she may not want her dad knowing she is showing her juicy bits to everyone
MJR__: (though why I want to try, my motives, make no sense)
MJR__: I can't trust her till I see her naked
MJR__: I highly doubt the girl I assumed to be 110 was actually 300
MJR__: but I can usually tell whether a girl will be gross or hot even with a raincoat on
mircea_popescu: mod6 i dfon
MJR__: I trust mircea_popescu
MJR__: lol I agree
MJR__: and I TRUST him
mod6: nothing, really. if mircea_popescu run's i guess we're screwed, but we can rate him down in the WoT forever.
MJR__: I see nothing that provides me an FDIC guarantee on an account
mircea_popescu: i didn't say you'd get burned with this specific one
MJR__: just said that I can see a scenario where they deliver as promised
MJR__: I never said I'd use them
mircea_popescu: but i think as you get burned you'll learn for yourself.
jurov: MJR__ i don't get it too. what information do you have that convinced you it's certainly legit?
MJR__: hey, I agree
MJR__: so...I see scenarios where people provide an honest service, and those who participate, do
MJR__: is DPR in the WoT? I actually don't know
MJR__: with anonymity, I could care less whether they rule it "homosexual" or "illegal" or "whatever"
MJR__: I don't define my morals by the law, and could care less what they decide...as long as it doesn't affect me
mircea_popescu: sucks for them i guess.
MJR__: I suppose
MJR__: not that I know of
MJR__: but I don't think their intent is to deceive for their own benefit
MJR__: I think we disagree on the fundamental definition of fraud
mod6: thats the only time i've gotten scammed
mircea_popescu: i distinguish too. it's not that they're not trustworthy. it's that they're fraudulent.
mod6: (10:30) < MJR__> I would say that torbroker seems definitely not fraudulent << i read about this. sounds great until they scam out like TorWallet
mircea_popescu: not a suspected ponzi, niot a possible ponzi, it is a ponzi i nfact.
MJR__: I guess I distinguish between fraudulent and trustworthy
MJR__: I've seen no evidence of fraud
mircea_popescu: i can.
MJR__: but without any evidence of fraud, I can't call them fraudulent
MJR__: I would say that torbroker seems definitely not fraudulent
MJR__: I guess "success" is relative
MJR__: ok, I don't think their business model looked sustainable
MJR__: they suck, I would have written them off
MJR__: so I wouldn't throw out everything, and miss a success
MJR__: but I think it's been proven that there will be many failures and a few successes
mircea_popescu: i think your scenario is livresque.
mod6: so i brewed this cup of coffee an hour ago and forgot about it...
MJR__: and...without knowing who is behind this, or what exactly they are doing and how well, I would say that I can picture a scenario where it works
MJR__: or, I want to do this quietly to not spook the market (obviously not now, too small)
MJR__: I have inside info
MJR__: I say it's a market
mircea_popescu: i can't legally and safely buy whatever pills the sr kids do
mircea_popescu: i can legally and safely buy securities right now.
mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
MJR__: I mean of SR specifically
MJR__: what I would say, and I don't want to delve into the relative pros and cons, is that DPR and SR, managed to create a market using trust...this is more similar to that
MJR__: I fail to see how that doesn't make sense
MJR__: and I say yes
MJR__: well, I agree, my point was only can you not trust them up to their reserve
MJR__: I would assume they would only go up to that point
MJR__: I care up to 1k BTC
mircea_popescu: i already had it, tho.
mircea_popescu: i simply moved capital (of trust, of fiat, of w/e_) from irl to btc.
MJR__: you've proven it, I agree
mircea_popescu: their boat sunk. i won. my people, who are in btc because they trusted me and i trusted btc,
mircea_popescu: mpex was built by me, and joined by people who only had any trust in btc because i said so.
MJR__: am I missing something? I trust you more or less implicitly in this space
mircea_popescu: i mean, he makes little... adjustments.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how it makes you feel, this isn't about feelings.