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spandrell_: well i cant do it for the fame
mircea_popescu: what exactly are you trying to get writing it though ? money ?
spandrell_: should i bother writing the book?
spandrell_: i take it you guys liked my chinese stories
spandrell_: anyway, i didnt come here to convince you to marry and have children
mircea_popescu: i don't think you've experienced paranoia of quite this strength and vintage in all your born days.
spandrell_: if somebody actually bothers to supplant me i'll feel very flattered
mircea_popescu: of course by now we don't know whether this isn't an impostor :)
mircea_popescu: much like after-the-end people go around looting the walmart, not stocking the shelves.
mircea_popescu: moreover, post-world effect. i'm much better off picking up select 19yo children from otherr people than making them de novo.
mircea_popescu: now, ironically, i ~could~ make useful children. but i require items (such as an undisputed right to kill them) that i could also make, but can't be arsed to.
spandrell: which is why people tend to have 1 or 2, as beyond that they start being less cute and more annoying
mircea_popescu: spandrell ok, so then we agree.
mircea_popescu: aite. i'ma need some time to get to that, seeing how i'm not going too fast through this one cuz we keep talking midway :D
spandrell: kids today are pets
spandrell: i wrote a post about that too
mircea_popescu: children today are a marginal cost.
spandrell: kids aren't very useful there
mircea_popescu: it's not a "for me". i said it in the general.
mircea_popescu: ah, and THEY don't have any children. yeah i can see that argument in that context.
spandrell: but their particular lifestyle means that for them children have no marginal utility either
mircea_popescu: on the contrary.
mircea_popescu: if children had actual marginal utility i would have children. by the dozen.
mircea_popescu: it's an option though. i could, if i were so inclined. i'm not, but that's a societal failure.
spandrell: well there you go
spandrell: my issue with the stuff is that the hero-dudes are all about fight and drink and competing to fuck unrealistic fighting women
spandrell: well back to the water margin and bro culture
mircea_popescu: well, inasmuch as it forces you to do things.
spandrell: how does that work
mircea_popescu: ah, poverty. sure. si quis, inquis, dives est, tum cenare potest cum cupit. si pauper... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess she's getting out one way or another. but then again this'd be why i own my women as opposed to marrying them.
spandrell: need to play ball to get a job
mircea_popescu: not like they have to!
mircea_popescu: so not everyone wants to. fine.
mircea_popescu: well i find this claim unsubstantiated so far, but anyway.
spandrell: and try to do that myself
spandrell: no no, i completely get that
mircea_popescu: you just object to the notion some people might not give a shit what women think ?
spandrell: i try to please my wife with money and not faith
spandrell: i dont work for the govt
mircea_popescu: well, especially all the sometimes you've decided not to have a choice.
mircea_popescu: because it's what children do, try t oplease a woman.
mircea_popescu: and this is then honorable ?
spandrell: plenty of people go through the motions
spandrell: of course there is
trinque: what is this, give unto caesar?
mircea_popescu: tries to be honorable is like trying to be faithful.
spandrell: who doesnt like the govt but works for them and tries to be honorable
asciilifeform: he is iirc a colonel there
spandrell: we do talk a lot
mircea_popescu: o wow really ? where you from then ?
spandrell: never been to the US
mircea_popescu: how do they do that ?
mircea_popescu: i don't do that, nor would i. but i suppose i'm to leave this aside ?
spandrell: doing the honorable patrician kinda thing
spandrell: working for the government
spandrell: you're doing your thing as a military officer
spandrell: imagine yourself in the position of qin ming
mircea_popescu: but you never explained any mechanics of the dislike, merely stated it.
spandrell: they also have this bro culture to them which i dislike too, as i wrote int he water margin post
mircea_popescu: the debates as to genetic basis for intelligence have raged for a while in the logs. it's not really settled i guess, but there's certainly no merit for NATIONAL concepts of intelligence hm ?
spandrell: i wouldn't know, i generally avoid them when i'm home
spandrell: well there's always the right edge of the bell curve
mircea_popescu: i had some pretty clever friends that part of the world.
mircea_popescu: are they that dumb actually ?
spandrell: i wasnt really that serious but i do understand i struck a nerve
spandrell: oh, the islam thing
mircea_popescu: i'm the only one talking right now.
spandrell: am i only able to read you, mircea_popescu, or are you the only one talking right now?
mircea_popescu: spandrell for the record, it's not at all an islamic argument. why would anyone but an idiot hang out with the idiots ? who ever goes willingly to an accountant party ? etc.
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform the 1300s chinese novel even has the "bitcoin corrupts" doctrine. "obviously he was a bro, and all bros of the world should join the rebel army".
mircea_popescu: well, if it's not bad for you, it's bad for the wife.
spandrell: and people say the internet is bad for you
mircea_popescu: yeah, prior to bitcoin that was the case with me exactly.
spandrell: i actually started to study japanese because i found a bitch on IRC who taught me
spandrell: i used to be a lot in irc
mircea_popescu: there's a huge pile of interlocking wonders that make up la serenissima, i'll be more than happy to explain them in detail as time goes by.
mircea_popescu: the bot allows you to self-voice, if you have the WoT presence, which you likely will because i'd rate you.
mircea_popescu: so the way this channel works is that you register your pgp signature with the bot ; and then you can maintain an identity. otherwise anyone can "be" spandrell
spandrell: not that much of a noob
mircea_popescu: why would i want to read a tv show script, good lord. even the people paid to do it don't.
spandrell: perhaps the old version, there's two
spandrell: there might be a version of the tv show with english subtitles
spandrell: i probably should check out some english translations if i want get the book written
spandrell: i am very fond of using that
mircea_popescu: yeah i'll have it fished out ; just thought maybe you know something. worth asking.
spandrell: maybe there's something on libgen?
spandrell: well that i'm afraid i don't know
spandrell: then realized i could just watch the show
spandrell: i think i said it there that i read parts of the original
spandrell: yes, the water margin
mircea_popescu: it's about this 1350s novel ?
mircea_popescu: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/men-doing-their-own-thing/ << the article i'm reading
mircea_popescu: oh also, reading this article makes me want to round my knowledge of medieval chinese literature (which consists of golden lotus, vase and spring plumlet) with this other thing. know of any decent edition of said "water margin" in any european language i could get online ?
spandrell: it would be an honor though, do tell me any time you come to the east
spandrell: i can confirm then, never met the guy
mircea_popescu: spandrell http://trilema.com/2014/ca-tot-s-a-tras-tot-s-a-fumat-tot-s-a-baut-tot-cum-e-peste-tot-la-fel-ca-peste-tot/ << there.
mircea_popescu: anyway, asciilifeform is this fellow by the name Stanislav Datskovskiy.
spandrell: well if this asciilifeform is a hot japanese chick then I might have met her
mircea_popescu: i thought that's where people go to meet all the hot japanese chicks!