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mod6: do I have
to add
the HTML, links and all
that? Or do you do
the mark up?
BingoBoingo: mod6: fixed, just need
the deedbot wiki url
mircea_popescu: yet another avenue
to bleed
the state and it's supporters (fucktarded parents with utility bills).
mircea_popescu: his government pays an extra 40 bux a month ; his parents pay an extra 30 bux a month (not counting amortisation for hardware) and he gets 15 dollars a month out of maybe 25
to 50 dollars' worth of monthly utility delivered
to
the world.
mircea_popescu: but in general, i fully expect
this
to work in
the sense
that random kid makes money
to play everquest or w/e
the fuck he plays
through
the avenue of renting
the box.
mircea_popescu: such as, sell
them out for number crunching ; but not for pinging. or w/e.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. anyway, if your windows boxes are owned
through
the
tenuous interface of whatever random chump-trojan, perhaps not allow a number of operations you feel you're vulnerable
to.
mircea_popescu: i know it's not an ~insurmountable~ problem, in
the context and per
the definitions relevant.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't have a solution ; because
this is a design not an implementation.
mircea_popescu: wtf is so hard about
this. so random
twerp likes
to have b and pretend it's a. good for him, random
twerps like
to lie in
their accounting ever since
they were invented.
this is what "bitcoin investments" on
the forum were all about
throughout. so ?
mircea_popescu: a) if your control on
the box is strong,
then your control on
the box is strong.
this means you fix
the problem ; b) if your control on
the box is weak,
this means your control on
the box is weak.
this means you understand you can lose it.
mircea_popescu: phf we're playing
this alf invented game where he picks an item and ignores all
the rest.
phf: what happened
to wot?
mircea_popescu: "list of
trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate."
this has a meaning.
mircea_popescu: client
that hoses boxes i suppose doesn't get
to rent more, what.
mircea_popescu: this is
the borg. cube lands and starts sucking
the earth from under
their feet. no shits given, at all, much like i don't look for anthill oppinions before during or after real estate development.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 01:15 phf: but you can easily upgrade open access service
to a custom service and charge for
the extra work
too. if you want your ads injected on all machines, you don't get
to put own exe, needs
to spec out
the problem and give it
to botnet owner
to develop. also means
that particularly losery owners will rapidly
transfer
their botnets
to smarter crowd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform once evolutionary pressure is on, you might even get
that something.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:46 asciilifeform: you rent out yer chumpnet, and some bozo installs, e.g., 'cryptolocker', on all
the nodes.
mircea_popescu: it's plenty sexy. it resolves a number of notable problems, correctly - which is
to say without support for usg.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 01:17 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479805 << doesn't have
to be botnet. for one
thing, once
this is ready i'll be running it on dedi boxes. for another
thing, you make your own administrative policies. sell for whatever price you want whatever you want
to sell.
mircea_popescu: trust. it builds. all
that's needed is a marketplace
to build it.
mircea_popescu: still ; you have a botnet you're worried about, can parcel it out, rent 10 chunks of 1k machines
to 10 people, see who runs with it etc.
mircea_popescu: you're welcome
to believe
that, if you wish. but
this place is constructed on
that being stupid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this "little different" is essentially saying "the wot is a nice
toy but it'll never scale".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the fact remains you can not, at
this present
time, distinguish your own node on random box from faux node planted
there.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:29 asciilifeform: is
that a reasonably competent griefer can rent
the chumpnet and ~clean it~
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:27 asciilifeform: ddos only exists for
the rest of us.
mircea_popescu: give it some
time, it'll work fine. if aws works, if folding@home works, if
torrents work
this'll work superbly.
mircea_popescu: other
than
the numerous deliberate sabotages,
tor fails in a game
theoretic manner - no incentive
to participate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually
this should work as a proper
tor relay for gossipd.
mircea_popescu: "apparently an intern installed uci. it's
the
third
time
this week."
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is good, but ~not enough. it's not enough for enemy
to be unable
to retain
the salaried interest of dea
thugs.
mircea_popescu: ALL computers. ie,
the computer attached
to
the 3d printer as much as
to
the atm at
the bank as much as anything else.
phf: build for
the ecosystem you have not
the ecosystem you want sort of
thing
mircea_popescu: never mind
the chicken perspective.
this commoditizes computers.
mircea_popescu: because unreliable is much much better
than "reliable"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 00:22 asciilifeform: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479673 << i distinctly recall mircea_popescu outlining
this wish list a while back. but must confess
that i suspect cpu cycle rental - even PINCHED cycles from OTHER PEOPLE, in botnet -
to be a -ev proposition. strange, but
there it is.
phf: but
then i'm just
talking out of my ass, i've been out of
that field for a long
time. i just suspect
that
the scenario you describe is already pretty common and is probably part of разборки
phf: but you can easily upgrade open access service
to a custom service and charge for
the extra work
too. if you want your ads injected on all machines, you don't get
to put own exe, needs
to spec out
the problem and give it
to botnet owner
to develop. also means
that particularly losery owners will rapidly
transfer
their botnets
to smarter crowd
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-09 23:59 shinohai: btw mircea_popescu "Pace in our
Time!" good one
phf: i've been burned by fellow scriptkiddies back in my scriptkiddy days enough
times
to not
trust anyone with
that sort of open access. i
thought
that would be
the case with others. perhaps
there's a distinction between "us" and "johns" happening here. if
the person is paying for botnet access, is probably mark
to begin with
a111: Logged on 2016-06-10 01:03 phf: asciilifeform: i
thought
that botnets had pre-programmed set of functions, like "rent botnet
to ddos" or "rent botnet
to spam", and
that functions were provided by owner
phf: asciilifeform: i
thought
that botnets had pre-programmed set of functions, like "rent botnet
to ddos" or "rent botnet
to spam", and
that functions were provided by owner
☟︎ mod6: BingoBoingo you may want
to update
the 'about' page on qntra, buncha #bitcoin-assets links and such.
BingoBoingo: Nah, renting out
the space in OTHER people's noses