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mircea_popescu: i hope fractal makes the 0% site so i can make
a bet about which bitbet bet will next take up all the fucking chan space on -assets.
Luke-Jr: the bet did not define it as
a 1M-board
wogwog_: haha pankkake keeps posting in that thread... he thinkts the thread is
a troll, but he keeps posting
Luke-Jr: punin's definition of
a unit has no bearing on the bet
wogwog_: hopefully punin will clearly define what
a 'unit' is and put this to rest
Anduck: and i've made clear what i think
a unit means....
wogwog_: Anduck: regardless, its possible, which means i didn't know the outcome. they only had to fix and ship 1 to for the bet to be
a yes. although at least i think that you are starting to admit that
a unit is 1M-board
Anduck: plus it ducks up the efficiency part
a bit
wogwog_: or maybe even
a software firmware issue
wogwog_: Anduck: if its just
a resistor to change , then its easy to fix and ship in 5 days
Anduck: and you expect that there might be
a fix for that coming in 5 days or so?
Anduck: but really betting at
a bitbet because of "knowing the outcome" and in the thoughts of "easy 100% sure money".... lol
pankkake: I'm saying the *best* in the sense of fractal, not mine - I think it's
a No
wogwog_: theres
a picture of the unit on the thread. go look with your eyes. thats what
a unit is
dexX7: wogwog_: "400 GH/s unit 400W" what does that mean in
a simple sentence?
pankkake: the best that could have happened is
a cancellation
wogwog_: if the bet was 25Gh unit, it was
a yes
mircea_popescu: we should make
a bet on fractal's bet site as to whether bitcoin.oz using the same ip as wogwog and fractal makes it the same unit or not.
wogwog_: thats
a pretty powerful connection we have, the two of us
mircea_popescu: kinda how it goes. people start
a game of mudbitcoin, it's fun cause it's so wtf. that last
a while, then it wears off, then they lose interest.
wogwog_: pankkake: lets talk about that for
a minute. think of the time you wasted because of me.... just think about it. you could have spent it reading
a book, bettering yourself... enjoying the outdoors, getting laid...... yet. you spent it on me.
pankkake: I'm guilty of doing my own plumbing, too, I'm
a thinkerer
wogwog_: pankkake: the second you replied to
a thing i said, you wasted your time.... you'll never get it back
pankkake: investing bitdust is fun - to
a point, now it's wasting my time
pankkake: it's
a question of time, that's what I tried to advertise in my offer: some guy is dumb on the internet and you're busy? here I am!
wogwog_: by the way, i'm not integrty42. tho i'm glad someone made
a forum post regarding this........
wogwog_: dexX7: my goal is that people acknowledge that the bet was incorrectly labelled yes. the 400Gh unit only does 365Gh. it did not meet advertised performance. the bet is
a no.
pankkake: paid papers published too - I knew
a guy who did that. what he wrote wasn't *wrong* though, nor lies
mircea_popescu: pankkake supposedly making money spamming is also
a fact. tenouous as it may sound.
pankkake: paid shills on the internet are
a fact though. the European Union got caught doing it
wogwog: pankkake: too bad you were outed as
a paid shrill/troll
wogwog: truth is you know its not
a troll. its logic.
wogwog: pankkake: you think that thread is
a troll, but you keep posting
Anduck: wogwog: unit can be
a group of units
Luke-Jr: Anduck: he must be trying to set
a record for most epic fail
Anduck: dude you tried to get easy money by betting on
a result you "knew" and were 100% sure. and you failed.. and now you whine, right?
wogwog: he called the 400Gh unit
a unit
wogwog: only
a troll would try to convince people that 2 units == 1 unit
Luke-Jr: so you admit this is
a trollfest and conspiracy theory.
wogwog: Anduck: because i use
a different nick every time i log in here. also, i have respected identities in the bitcoin community. and dont need to ruin them with trollfests and conspiracy theories
mircea_popescu: Anduck because he's
a junior in psychology and that's what the book of reversal says
wogwog: wow. can't belive they totally scammed the no betters on that one... it clearly should have been
a no
ozbot: BitBet incorrectly declares yes to
a no bet. Stay Away from BitBet!
tyrion70: *wonders who cunt is.. haven't seen charlie for
a while :p
jurov: lol "dense character" would be
a compliment in plato's eyes then
mircea_popescu: e and thrust them out among the artisans or the farmers. And again, if from these there is born
a son with unexpected gold or silver in his composition they shall honor such and bid them go up higher, some to the office of guardian, some to the assistanceship, alleging that there is an oracle that the city shall then be overthrown when the man of iron or brass is its guardian.
mircea_popescu: heir generation, for which reason they are the most precious but in the helpers, silver, and iron and brass in the farmers and other craftsmen. And, as you are all akin, though for the most part you will breed after your kinds, it may sometimes happen that
a golden father would beget
a silver son, and that
a golden offspring would come from
a silver sire, and that the rest would, in like manner, be born of one anot
pankkake: things changed
a lot since then
pankkake: as it's
a sunk cost, it would make sense to mine (unless electricity price is too high of course)
mircea_popescu: "I farm bits and pieces out to the guys who are much more brilliant than I am. I say, "build me
a laser", this. "Design me
a molecular analyzer", that. They do, and I just stick 'em together. But, none of them know what the project really is. So..."
nubbins`: if you haven't seen
a mutated, melting jeff goldblum whimpering "kill me", you haven't seen jeff goldblum
mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of jeff goldblum in the fly, "i'm more like
a supply chain manager"
gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> all companies are
a scam, cuz like 99% of them go out of business someday
gribble: Error: "ThickAsThieves" is not
a valid command.
mircea_popescu: there's
a good example. the polish government just stole ~100bn dollars worth of private pensions
nubbins`: even
a web browser is pretty heavy for this sort of thing
nubbins`: besides, you can't fit
a smartphone on your keychain
nubbins`: it's just that having
a hardware version would be cute
nubbins`: anyway, it could just as easily be implemented in
a static web page with
a couple lines of javascript
nubbins`: yeah, you'd have
a hard time convincing someone with the know-how to get on board without already being stacked with cash
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can see collecting
a few hundred btc for making
a hardware wallet if you can convince you know wtf you're doing.
ozbot: Using the Kobo Mini eReader as
a dynamic (BIP0032) Bitcoin tip jar
nubbins`: spend 20 minutes making
a website
mircea_popescu: it's another for every two bit kid with
a modem to be doing the same.
nubbins`: smash
a stone tablet or something
mircea_popescu: pankkake i made the mistake of querying the mod that did it. here you go : "because wtf is mtgox already! look they've been announcing ltc for like
a year. it's
a dying dog saying it's going to start eating rabbits, i'm not taking bets on whether it actually does. besides, they're
a known group of scammers and liars, what's to keep them from fronting ltc trades? and then obviously even if they did manage to implement t
nubbins`: i don't give
a red fuck if someone's "corrupted by money" or what their morals are
Luke-Jr: pankkake: Try "Will someone successfully obtain fiat currency in
a traditional bank transferred from MtGox, from selling Litecoins on MtGox, before 2014?"
nubbins`: gox will have
a daily volume of xyz in LTC by the end of 2013
mircea_popescu: pankkake well to me it reads like
a variant of "I will publish the number 15 on my website by end of year".
Luke-Jr: nubbins`: that's not
a name, it's
a noun
fractal_: nubbins`: tell that to Luke-Jr , who called me
a theif.
pankkake: "Will MT. GOX be trading Litecoin as
a currency before the end of 2013? " why was this rejected? I don't how it is unverifiable
mircea_popescu: this because reality surprises, which is
a good thing overall.
nubbins`: if you lost money because you bet on
a poorly worded bet, well, nobody feels sorry for you
mircea_popescu: this is imo the most important takeaway here : rather than hang your bet on some technicality, just make
a new one in which your point of interest is substantially the bet.
fractal_: which was
a performance requirement
nubbins`: you didn't get robbed, you misjudged their ability to deliver
a certain GH/s for
a certain W
mircea_popescu: if indeed that's the case you'd have been much better served by making
a "The Bitfury strikes back 400gh/s unit will not exist as the 16 boards together will hash under 400gh/s"
nubbins`: you make
a convincing argument, but the bet doesn't mention anything about the components included
nubbins`: if they want to include
a free baseball card, well, each unit comes with
a baseball card
nubbins`: anyway,
a "unit" is obviously whatever they're selling as "
a unit"
nubbins`: the unit consisted of
a tub and
a tub surround
nubbins`: i renovated my bathroom last month, and i purchased
a new shower unit
fractal_: the fact is that the language , as written, requires
a 400Gh UNIT to exist
nubbins`: lel @ fractal sobbing over
a free upgrade
nubbins`: i thought you had
a valid beef, but you're just squabbling over semantics because you lost money