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mircea_popescu: well, co-author.
mircea_popescu: after all, he recently wrote a mega-piece of us trollery didn't he.
mircea_popescu: punkman barney frank, of "i fuck little boys" fame, comes to mind
mircea_popescu: well i guess mpoe-pr was a hero... member.
mircea_popescu: holy shit
mircea_popescu: punkman you're starting to sound like the girls :D
mircea_popescu: code in such a way you won't be ashamed to show what you've written to your kids or the woman that may potentially carry them.
mircea_popescu: "the limit some idiots put in is 15 so now i'm going to make it part of my brain" ? what is wrong with you!
mircea_popescu: kolinko shame on you for seriously thinking of pushing this crap downstream, seriously now.
mircea_popescu: srsly, the "multisig" thing has an arbitrary 15 limit ?
mircea_popescu: fucktards.
mircea_popescu: "o i know, instead of specifying this "hairball" we keep blaming on satoshi... how about we add... MORE MAGIC NUMBERS!!11"
mircea_popescu: holy shit what is wrong with these derps.
mircea_popescu: ahahahaaha WHAT
mircea_popescu: one for each form of the trinity ?
mircea_popescu: three times the five talmudic pillars ?
mircea_popescu: kolinko no. the system can break itself, too. it doesn't need a mustachioed antropomorphised enemy.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 i maintain it's free money that did it.
mircea_popescu: like you knolw, two girls are a better fuck than just one. provided they're not insane.
mircea_popescu: only if you have a good selection of 15.
mircea_popescu: jurov quite different yes.
mircea_popescu: the thing that annoys me most about contemporaneity is that somehow it got convinced nothing pre ww2 ever happened. nfi why. so many excellent implementations of good solutions seem to just vanish in the general knowledge.
mircea_popescu: kolinko read up on fixing. srsly.
mircea_popescu: the most expensive variant is to get actual sex and actual food.
mircea_popescu: yes, like with sex and food.
mircea_popescu: you know how fixing works right ?
mircea_popescu: i'd rather trust their fixing than exchanges.
mircea_popescu: jurov honestly, if you actually had 15 people that were there assembled for merit, not just random derpage
mircea_popescu: course doing a synth option on a future is fucking tricky.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones the eur future is actually even cheaper, arguably.
mircea_popescu: it is, yes.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones bitbet is seriously not that expensive. 1% + time value.
mircea_popescu: all trade relies on your conterparty not running off. but yes.
mircea_popescu: or i guess by trading the x.eur delivered future, if you can actually take delivery.
mircea_popescu: kolinko either on otc or maybe make bitbet bets.
mircea_popescu: over*
mircea_popescu: experience shows girl under 30 or so has a lot of trouble reeducating.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did not. too old.
mircea_popescu: read up on schelling ?
mircea_popescu: but really, there doesn't seem to be that much demand for options once the darkpool and bitbet respectively take the slack.
mircea_popescu: it'll just work from there relying on the wot and that.
mircea_popescu: imo the avenue to this standardisation is, once moloko delivers the registrar of deeds, and if indeed we want to do a lot of option trade,
mircea_popescu: but some people might, sure.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: nah, it can actually be answered in theory too. just, it gets esoteric quickly.
mircea_popescu: well it's reasonably unclear what we're actually discussing.
mircea_popescu: kolinko yes.
mircea_popescu: a system that either works as intended or not at all is the holy grail of unbreakability.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but see, if you delete the program, you can't say you've broken the code.
mircea_popescu: not a question of any probabilities.
mircea_popescu: this is the main advantage of an overlord that the decentralize fanboys tend to ignore. if you have a good overlord, the system is unbreakable period.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter : the spf system is not breakable.
mircea_popescu: hence my comment about them being arsed to put up with the cost of the defense.
mircea_popescu: but this also happens to be the definition of a sybil vulnerability.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah, he's just trying to solve a fundamental problem through implementation and got blindsided by a theoretical exposition of it.
mircea_popescu: and anyway, if "you" create it then you're just counting from 1 to 15.
mircea_popescu: simultaneity in reality ? through what magic ?
mircea_popescu: "all at once" ? what is this.
mircea_popescu: this is fundamental mathematics we're discussing here.
mircea_popescu: unless you've revolutionized counting, yes.
mircea_popescu: kolinko if you have a process to go from 1 party to two, then you have a sybil problem. and to have 15 you necessarily must have had that process.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lmao
mircea_popescu: if god gave us 15 pilars then that'd be that
mircea_popescu: what if one wants to join ? were they 8 at some point ? 6 ?
mircea_popescu: kolinko no, because how do you get the 15 parties ?
mircea_popescu: people tend to easily forget what identity means. here it is : =. every time you're using an equality sign, numerical, logical or otherwise you're relying on identity. cuz that's what it is.
mircea_popescu: now, if you want to go back and get diddled by THE SAME GUY AS LAST TIME, you're in for it.
mircea_popescu: lol all you will, tis true :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, sybil attacks are specifically not a problem in anon systems. if you go for a romp in a gay cinema, to be fucked by a random man, it makes no difference to you who fucks you, so you can't be sybil'd by definition.
mircea_popescu: lotta trusted parties involved there. lulz.
mircea_popescu: jurov well... it happened with libor :D
mircea_popescu: so they won't be arsed.
mircea_popescu: and the arsed problem is not something to brush aside. the better your sybil protection, the more expensive their pointless expense.
mircea_popescu: in any form and in any way.
mircea_popescu: you are wrong in the first. sybil attacks are a problem on all systems that rely on identity to any degree.
mircea_popescu: drawing*
mircea_popescu: circle cvadrature is not a question of "get better draing tools"
mircea_popescu: these aren't simple problems, and they're unsimple for fundamental reasons, it's not a matter of implementation.
mircea_popescu: sybil attacks, and why would they be arsed to care about your needs.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this approach is that if they're to be trusted they're sops by definition, and vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: kolinko id with gribble, pm assbot !up you get voice.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate kolinko 1 appcodes guy
mircea_popescu: ;;rate kolinko appcodes guy
mircea_popescu: a "single point of failure" is a trustworthy individual by definition anyway.
mircea_popescu: and when you're done with that, to put things in perspective for you, mpex carried about 1mn total btc worth of options over a coupla years.
mircea_popescu: kolinko http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/ read the misc section.
mircea_popescu: the contract ain';t the problem there.
mircea_popescu: if you prove that i'll rate you, then you can self voice
mircea_popescu: (you the appcodes kolinko ?)
mircea_popescu: kolinko np. what brings you here ?
mircea_popescu: !up kolinko
mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/b56dc09335df5284be9ffc571b1b2a3e/tumblr_mn5gg0b2Ki1r28s53o1_1280.png here.
mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/7acf8dba23117cd363e41e8f5d25581c/tumblr_mzo97lKriP1rhup7qo1_400.gif someone said something of pronz.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/qEfxrXP.gif <<< bwahhah cat magnet
mircea_popescu: o hay beautyon_ ! Le never fails to unintentionally entertain, but really, that's one you should prolly blog.
mircea_popescu: (i mean the whole monologue, not just the one line)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2014#825979 << this is like the first intelligent thing i've seen xmj say, but it is impressive. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway this dga fellow should be here. someone invite him
mircea_popescu: lions in the fucking forest. huzzah for all teh lernin'.
mircea_popescu: here we go, useless bumgle.