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trinque: G4S has previously been accused of improperly vetting its employees. In 2009, Danny Fitzsimons, a former British paratrooper and employee of a G4S subsidiary, killed two colleagues in Iraq, claiming to be “the antichrist” and saying he “must satisfy” his “bloodlust.” << wouldn't blow my mind that $lizardhitler has a drug that induces this ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf log is down ?
asciilifeform: (what if he turns tail?)
trinque: there was the same "multiple shooters" chatter around orlando as many other events
asciilifeform: i can easily see the idiot signing up to 'fire some blanks, scare some folk'
trinque: if they are mercs, it leans me more tinfoil-hat than you've expressed, even..
asciilifeform: what - if any - to believe re mr snackbar's Official biography, is matter of taste.
trinque: I'll have to do moar googling, but I'd expect a company that was running guantanamo would be closer to mercs than mall cops
asciilifeform: (rather than 'academe' etc.)
asciilifeform: speaking here of ordinary, unremarkable security co., as in the kind who drive cash wagons etc.
asciilifeform: trinque: in usa private guards, typically, get - sometimes - a little pistol training.
trinque: oddly same company that spun off a subsidiary that was running guantanamo
trinque: so g4s does no weapons training? (former employer)
asciilifeform: i propose that mr snackbar's score would have been nearly same if he had fired blanks.
asciilifeform: btw recall the hollywood shootout (same one as in mircea_popescu's article) ?
asciilifeform: mr snackbar's ? or the batman one
trinque: had to have been able to hit *one*
asciilifeform: recall, last bloke who (we were told) emptied 3 clips into crowded cinema, scored... 9 ?
trinque: certainly both he and the cops shot people
trinque: that'd be quite a lot of people being usg agents claiming to witness him shooting people
mircea_popescu: well, the guy who was playing counterstrike and had fambly killed certainly scored 0 personally.
asciilifeform: cheaper still considering that usg will pin ALL of the corpses on mr snackbar.
asciilifeform: aha, precisely that one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is judicious. all described in the http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/
asciilifeform: this is how cops ended up with full auto weapons to begin with, incidentally
asciilifeform: as it was, they picked grenades over chancing mr snackbar's bullet.
asciilifeform: they would happily dynamite the entire building if they could plausibly dress it up as 'perp did it'
asciilifeform: anyway the police are useful idiots in this play.
mircea_popescu: should they also get a govt uniform ? be in goose-step with the times ?
mircea_popescu: wait, the QUEERS are on high alert ?
mircea_popescu: (but yes, this is at least 50% of why girl has to wear heels and be tall to begin with. 50% of the rest is the leyla black. and other such things)
mircea_popescu: room has drawbacks. toilets - easy to clean. the shag gets dubious while the tile stays... white. ish.
trinque: though the room would be more convenient
mircea_popescu: srsly, you people never fuck "on the first date" girl you met at disco ?
trinque: yeah that's not super unlikely at a gay bar
asciilifeform: (the practice dates to at least turing's time, there is a monument near the toilet he used)
asciilifeform: where, apparently, they customarily fuck
asciilifeform: the published floor plan showed whole bar having GIGANTIC public toilet in the back half
mircea_popescu: trinque looks like a shitth broom by the piping
asciilifeform: in single-file, with mr snackbar at the lead ?
asciilifeform: storage room from which all of the survivers emerged ?
asciilifeform: and Only A Terrorist Would Ask (TM) (R) how one can blow 5+ grenade holes in a cement wall, clean through, without fragging any of the hundreds of schmucks hiding behind it
mircea_popescu: and who are the pink shirt faggots ? police ?
mircea_popescu: how about mega-dent up left close to hole ? also ?
asciilifeform: and this apparently is a MAGICAL wall that doesn't shower folks with frags behind it when you blow it up....
mircea_popescu: but they're not randomly distributed! the 7 light marks on bottom clearly came from one burst.
mircea_popescu: but this isn't paper.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same tool. ever notice that even at the range, the holes in the paper have different shapes ? esp. at max distance ? the bullet - tumbles.
mircea_popescu: i guess it could be that the bottom came in at a very wide angle, which in iutself is kinda stupid, but the marks are too round for that.
asciilifeform: which is even lulzier than 'police blew hole then shot everything that moved'
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm no ballistics expert, but seriously, those holes all made by same tool ?
mircea_popescu: well that may well be.
asciilifeform: in order for mr. snackbar to make any of the pictured holes, he would have had to climb out, police - cheering him on from behind his back, while he fired back into the hole.
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean compare those marks with the tank machine gun lookiung holes above
asciilifeform: Official Truth is that mr snackbar was inside. police dynamited hole, and - Officially - waited for ~him~, rather than victims, to emerge, then fired
mircea_popescu: (why by bozo ? because he fired 7 in a row and has miserable enough control of the gun that he swings left-right etc)
mircea_popescu: so the idea that the very much "machine gun fired by bozo" line on the bottom is... ricochet ? or wtf ?
asciilifeform: when they decided that nailing whole crowd was a-ok
mircea_popescu: who came up wit this idea.
mircea_popescu: seems like a pretty shiutty choice. bad weapon all around : low caliber shitty ammo for hard targets, poor accuracy and overpenetration for soft targets
mircea_popescu: how did they do the ones towards the bottom ?
asciilifeform: they were prominently displayed in some of the earlier releases.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the orlando police carry h&k mp5
mircea_popescu: either that or the drywall's pretty shitty
mircea_popescu: seems there's a peashooter and a .45 involved
asciilifeform: that is, there is not a weapon that will produce these if fired from inside.
asciilifeform: but can tell ~direction~
mircea_popescu: you can tell caliber from that ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-15 03:15 asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://pp.vk.me/c636216/v636216329/1018c/a3teM2ELOb8.jpg << supposedly, the hole blown by police at orlando postal. notice the police bullet marks.
asciilifeform: similar to the day care where 2 men in camo went in, machine gunned, left, leaving autistic tard in their place with empty rifle, then caught in the woods, 'questioned', let go.
mircea_popescu: well... did the muslim terrorist at least shoot all the black victims ?
asciilifeform: aha. that one.
mircea_popescu: oh that one
asciilifeform: and then fired into ?
asciilifeform: the one they blew a hole in the back of ?
asciilifeform: incidentally rumours of a good chunk of the gay bar corpses having 9mm police holes in'em continue to circulate.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole thing is a "gun control" ie, make the us as "immigrant"-friendly as rotterham, uk. bullshit.
asciilifeform: the terrorists won.
mircea_popescu: clearly, won teh war with terrorists.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the greatest country in the world, https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/why-many-people-talking-pic-185952778.html
mircea_popescu: so therefore... mooooot point.
mircea_popescu: if they do or if they don't... i dun think they'll notice.
asciilifeform: the cows sometimes - rarely - birth people. or they would still be living in trees, in strictly ecologically sustainable with bare hands sort of numbers.
asciilifeform: works in the strict biological sense.
mircea_popescu: hey. works. has worked. will continue to work.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, there's an entire subculture of these, on west coast. you can fill a 2 acre pool estate with them in bikinis, they'll swiggle around while the pot lasts.)
asciilifeform: ^ the example of opposite of what i was describing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have the 'karla from california' article link handy ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a good bit of aptitude in, e.g., weight lifting, i suspect, is simply having a dull sense of the pain involved in effort
mircea_popescu: socialist state or no socialist state, they're the wanna-bes.
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's clear that "wanting to be" eg "writer" is how the aspie 14%, the worthless but ambitious, useful idiots are recruited
diana_coman: as opposed to ...floating around whatever
asciilifeform: having spine will do that
diana_coman: I really had no idea of what I wanted to be or even do; maybe what you mean is that people have basically some sort of personal ethics and they stick to them come what may
mircea_popescu: then again maybe that goes on while i sleep
asciilifeform: or aiming not to be a slug
mircea_popescu: i can't say i've ever spent any mental time aiming not to be jwz.
asciilifeform: on the surface jwz also 'aren't'
mircea_popescu: well in the sense i don't want to be a woman
diana_coman: I only had a very clear idea of what I do NOT want really; at least when presented with the thing