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mircea_popescu: decimation no, but they ARE 8 digits worth of 2/7
mircea_popescu: "give me this cup full of 2/7" should result in a cupful
mircea_popescu: decimation honestly, filling the register ain't buggy.
mircea_popescu: which is why reality is a harsh mistress.
mircea_popescu: computer can't have autonomy to decide if to play.
mircea_popescu: no, cause the no play is not a computer, it's a wife./
mircea_popescu: basically you're saying "take this thing from a compact representation to an infinite representation on a finite space without loss"
mircea_popescu: that';s not a guarantee finite-register machines can make
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can only put 00000007 and 00000002 in the registers, and the result will be 28571428 and an overflow bit.
mircea_popescu: i suspect maxima only does it "in some cases"
mircea_popescu: it's a numeric machine tho
mircea_popescu: in a computer the output of "abc" is "abc' rather than whatever windows may spit out with a bad charset or w/e
mircea_popescu: this is an os notation problem
mircea_popescu: well ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, all they do is bitwise addition
mircea_popescu: all do!
mircea_popescu: quite. the ring of integers and + -
mircea_popescu: and i'll venture a guess that more computer insecurity was caused by this than any other one thing
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> why do we have floating point hardware instead of rational arithmetic towers? << but we don't. we have rational arithmetic towers pretending (unconvincingly) to be floating point hardware
mircea_popescu: this has been a very illuminating discussion
mircea_popescu: just in case, who knows, maybe it's used in some case.
mircea_popescu: back then people hadn't figured what the pc is, so they just bolted some capitalistic crap to the sides
mircea_popescu: it is isnt it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it gotta be a meaningless accident huh
mircea_popescu: it's a numeric machine. it only uses integers.
mircea_popescu: why are floats even implemented ?
mircea_popescu: i just suddenly realised i don't understand why floats were even implemented, at all.
mircea_popescu nods
mircea_popescu: i didn't like the "were possible" part. either always, in which case it's a calculator, or forget it.
mircea_popescu: maybe this is merely semanticism
mircea_popescu: why emulate anything, ever.
mircea_popescu: maybe we make one sometime just for this reason.
mircea_popescu: and i want to accomplish this by replacing quicksort.package with bubblesort.package
mircea_popescu: however, that's not the point. suppose i want my machine to always use bubblesort. everywhere
mircea_popescu: i guess, but originally i got very pissed off at ubuntu becaus you can't make a non-networking ubuntu machine without rewriting it all, instead of simply uninstalling netowrking.
mircea_popescu: i sometimes wonder how computing would work if linux weren't built on "packages" as implemented, but on actual functions
mircea_popescu: well top sorta-does that.
mircea_popescu: not a bad model of it at any rate.
mircea_popescu: that may explain how we ended up with the current usg.
mircea_popescu: too much agency for a monkey.
mircea_popescu: if it's voluntary, if the prickly is passive, then the other party is active, and to the active goes the agency.
mircea_popescu: maybe wrongly, but the term to me suggested involuntary and incontinence. which is what the entire observation was based on, after all :
mircea_popescu: it's being an ashole deliberately and oppressing selected idiots wilfully.
mircea_popescu: but that is a much more self aware, and effectually applied, violence than mere prickliness.
mircea_popescu: i would suggest the volume in and of itself is proof they say nothing.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, for the capacities of the basic rational agent, they'd seem to have a point, too!
mircea_popescu: proponents of such tailored "knowledge" will understandably fight tooth and nail with some classes of rational approach, such as the people who use the counterexample effectually (aka, trolls)
mircea_popescu: fraud through and through, and yet.
mircea_popescu: this is how us kids learn for exams, for instance.
mircea_popescu: decimation it's worse than that! consider : you could pick arbitrary assumptions and arbitrary data sets so as to theoretically and practically justify a particular theory sufficiently so that it gives the desired results for a FINITE time interval, calculated to exceed the probable testing period.
mircea_popescu: hence boundless ignorance ? that ignorance ignorant even of bounds ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
mircea_popescu: you can't become prickly just because people are idiots. it's giving idiots too much say.
mircea_popescu: nonsense, that. equally nonsense in both cases.
mircea_popescu: me splitting with everyone's cash because some redditard says things ?
mircea_popescu: but what would be the equivalent to "lisp people being prickly" in context ?
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless the world and his like have no common points.
mircea_popescu: important to remember that his declarative statements are powerless to influence reality, and as much as he'd like to live in a world where there's no incentive for me to stay honest,
mircea_popescu: this should make it obvious. of course redditard monkey would love nothing more than for his idiocy to be confirmed.
mircea_popescu: "The site is owned by the most annoying, donkey riding arsehole involved with bitcoin." "Unlike all the others, owned by nice people that ran off with your coins." "I wish that arsehole would run off with all the coins if it meant never hearing from him again."
mircea_popescu: consider a simpler case, let me find it.
mircea_popescu: and if you conform by doing the "since they call me a thief anyway might as well", you are actually giving away that much power.
mircea_popescu: this is what i meant, obliquely. if you allow the "community" of screaming monkeys to decide whether you are antisocial type 1 or 2, you're giving them too much power.
mircea_popescu: "advertising is a symptom of insufficient demand or insufficient supply." naggum o.O
mircea_popescu: i can't read locklin without him annoying me. such a total schmoozeball.
mircea_popescu: everything that passport.net did or w/e that crap was called
mircea_popescu: i choose not to witness.
mircea_popescu: if your highschool peers can make you antisocial by claiming you're antisocial then there's no incentive for them to abstain is there.
mircea_popescu: "But part of it definitely stems from the incessant stream of ignorant criticisms leveled at the Lisp community by outsiders" asciilifeform it occurs to me that if the outsiders can do that then the whole ecosystem empowers outsiders to an outrageous, unwarranted and quite dangerous degree.
mircea_popescu: is this true even ?
mircea_popescu: "one of the great strengths of the APL ecosystem so far are the user community. Lispy people are a preposterously pricklish and unhelpful bunch in comparison."
mircea_popescu: trilema is really non-js friendly so i guess it prolly has more nonjs readers than average interwebs
mircea_popescu: well i guess if they have silent (non js, non url-forwarding etc) browsers it could be from anywhere
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: this month it's more like 4%
mircea_popescu: they're not redirects. in fact, linked traffic has always been 10% or less, as far as trilema is concerned.
mircea_popescu: seriously, 20% of my search traffic came looking for... "true" ? what the fucking hell of a cosmic joke is this.
mircea_popescu: decimation i'd see it as search not as direct. meanwhile search incoming is dominated by keywords like "true"
mircea_popescu: sooo... yesterday was trilema's largest reading day. yet nothing happened. 90%+ of it direct, too. wtf.
mircea_popescu: they've alsways been.
mircea_popescu: it's what makes the joke good
mircea_popescu: ich been ain odesseer
mircea_popescu: bounce yes. airlifted :D
mircea_popescu: "let's save the environment by shipping natural gas across the atlantic because we're too bigmouthed to fit a cock"
mircea_popescu: such an ineffectual process dear lord
mircea_popescu: and germany doesn't want to be in the fallout
mircea_popescu: moriarty no, because the us is getting screwed in its imaginary economic war.
mircea_popescu: because the eu is so fucking married to the us and everything.
mircea_popescu: o, i see :D
mircea_popescu: no, in terms of who gets flattened by an economic war
mircea_popescu: russia is fine. the us is too high to notice how fucked it's getting.
mircea_popescu: you're misinformed :)
mircea_popescu: pain is not the basis of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: aggression is when it comes to bomb canada and expects the us to mind its own fucking business.
mircea_popescu: moriarty hardly aggression.
mircea_popescu: suppose someone was derping in anchorage bay.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, it being the south CHINA sea
mircea_popescu: what about it ?