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mircea_popescu: jurov not quite. i dun want jack shit. but when presented with an argument to
mircea_popescu: bounce sure. but by now it takes two minutes to dld a film and 120 to watch it
mircea_popescu: but in fact gavin executing usg agenda. those twerps have few ideas and they keep redressing them everywhere.
mircea_popescu: it's in fact exactly recycled golfclub pattern talk, which is exactly how the independent observer knows this is not merely gavin derping,
mircea_popescu: "bandwidth will double each year for 20 years because it has in a very rare circumstance the past 10" is not unlike the way people try to sell "global warming"
mircea_popescu: last i heard youtube traffix was waning, but be that as it may,
mircea_popescu: bounce maybe. again, im not saying "no" or "never" here. i'm trying to do some actual reasoning on evaluating patently insane claims sprouted by gavin.
mircea_popescu: now this is a very distant, removed argument. but that doesn't entirely destroy it. sure, it's useless in a 5 year discussion.,
mircea_popescu: there substantially isn't something as interesting to people.
mircea_popescu: "full image of the human person" is also a limit, in fact. quite biological.
mircea_popescu: bounce yes, but see, just like light in glass is a limit of the universe, that's relevant,
mircea_popescu: in 1990 i could see it, we wanted to see samantha fox naked in color, rather than black/white ascii art.
mircea_popescu: so what's going to push your dubling each year ? faeries ?
mircea_popescu: by now the limit on porn is that nobody can be fucking bothered to make the sluts look good in 8k hd.
mircea_popescu: which is a major fucking point that got neglected so far. there's this seinfeld where george tries to sell computers
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you were to propose over the next 170 years it increases 10 million fold again, i would take 50-50 odds against.
mircea_popescu: bounce here's some saner math : first telegraphed message was in 1844. the bw today, 170 years later, is 10mn times wider. (ie, taking that 10mbps).
mircea_popescu: telephone infrastructure has been a thing for > a century.
mircea_popescu: bounce again, this is a discussion of very prepubescent titgrowth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform since you're doing all this, make a loper's gentoo put wrapper on blog ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the distro that makes you cool by using it.
mircea_popescu: it can;t be heh, isn't gentoo the offical hipster distro atm ?
mircea_popescu: jurov mebbe you read an inclusive statement backwards ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: such burden << if not paid for, even a cent's worth can kill.
mircea_popescu: telling some derp derping about "what we should do" there's no we and nobody elected him is not politics, but the contrary thereof.
mircea_popescu: im not aware it was about the politics, other than to reject unwarranted politics ploys.
mircea_popescu: effects aren't the consideration here. the cause is the consideration.
mircea_popescu: bounce not the point of excluding, the point is of engineering.
mircea_popescu: bounce no, the point was that there's no good reason to believe doubling each year for 20 years is something to engineer against.
mircea_popescu: in roimania it was the railroad signals and then the phones. nobody stole plumbing.
mircea_popescu: but they'll steal the main trunks, not the last miles.
mircea_popescu: bounce but see, in 1960 we did know about optic fibre.
mircea_popescu: bounce fibre possibly has a lot of headroom yet. but so did cable, originally. point is there's not going to be a qualitative jump like going from copper to glass.
mircea_popescu: what's gprs anyway, like 50kb/s and 1 second latencies ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: Apocalyptic i'm trying to figure out why everyone has their dicks in a knot about it. nobody seems to know. ^ above should give you a good start.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally exactly, but EXACTLY how idiots just like gavin end up with mortgages they can't pay.
mircea_popescu: imagining you'll keep doubling bra cup into your 30s is a little out there
mircea_popescu: in short : just because your tits grew up 100% a week for half a year starting on your eleventh birthday doesn't mean jack. for one thing, the first cubic centimetre happened then.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the way net neutrality etc is going, not to mention the realpolitics of you know, actual wars, financial or otherwise, it wouldn't be surprising if in 20 years the average us citizen is on dialup
mircea_popescu: sure, for as long as you're rubbing sticks together, things can increase massively. once you start running up against the limits of the universe however, that's that.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: this is not unusual for a first-world country, is it? << here's the problem : you went from cable to optic fibre to do that.
mircea_popescu: they got the "global financial blabla" quite well pegged, they figure, why won't we just eat some crums ?
mircea_popescu: govt wants it the other way around, so why won't we be nice people and just make bitcoin a sort of replacement for sms payments already.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but see, the question is : govt doesn't want to be a wholly owned subsidiary of bitcoin, and used as such, with its scrip a sort of ltc.
mircea_popescu: we're not here to be friends. we're here to fuck over the entire system, permanently.
mircea_popescu: this specifically requires avoiding the tarpit of trying to be yet another macdonals, helping along with welfare distribution.
mircea_popescu: and i don't care specifically because we want bitcoin to take over the financial, and with it the political power in the world. all of it.
mircea_popescu: and no, im not gonna think about the spooks. i couldn't give less of a shit that some single mom's ugly children are starving because her no fee half bitcent bitbet bet didn't get into any of sixty consecutive blocks.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly the point of all this fucking derpage.
mircea_popescu: so one block will fit 100x as many tx, and each solved block will yield 50x less in subsidies. that's a 5k drop over 20 years. it's high enough to kill the price, and with it mining, and with all that bring bitcoin back within the financial ability of the us.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: so average bandwidth in US (where Gavin is based) is 10Mbit. An incearse of .5 per year is like what 15 next then 22.5 after that etc etc <<< in 20 years the per-block subsidy will be just about 40 bitcents. at that same time, gavin's block size will be 110 mb.
mircea_popescu: let him do his whatever the hell it is and be happy, nobody cares.
mircea_popescu: but the derpage about taking bitcoin with him is ridoinculous.
mircea_popescu: go1111111: Gavin has a different idea of where he wants Bitcoin to go<< no, actually, gavin has finally figured that there's not really space in bitcoin for him, and he wants to move on. which is fine.
mircea_popescu: unl;ess they wish to not be pestered about uptading it
mircea_popescu: nubbins` there's a downloads count on github, for what that's worth.
mircea_popescu: because the troop has proven, multiple times, that they're not to be trusted. plenty of those are simple incompetence, but at least three or so can be well argued as malice.
mircea_popescu: point is, nobody in his right mind would just go with the "up to date".