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BingoBoingo: Well, stanley black and decker company has problems prolly, but... exist now as ghostly AMD to TTI's intel
BingoBoingo: Not that power tools this is actually less issue because TTI makes nearly everything and is chicom.
a111: Logged on 2014-03-22 17:53 asciilifeform: the next day, they 'apologized' by... supplying a crate of free fluke meters to the victim
BingoBoingo: Maybe corn has a latex in the stalk?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'trade dress' << do you recall the incident where fluke corp. had a party of chinese voltmeters confiscated and burned at a customs checkpoint ? FOR BEING YELLOW ??
BingoBoingo: Hey my rubber hose circa this week also made in USA. Slightly higher tech
asciilifeform: if you want so much as a radio made in usa, you have to buy from grumman and it will cost its weight in pu.
asciilifeform: for less than golden toilet price, anyway.
asciilifeform: approx the tech level available here
BingoBoingo: ;tldr "Made in USA" to the extent in continues does so for feels in weird
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the made in USA vs china problem in a nutshell http://toolguyd.com/empire-e2g-e70-level/
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo maybe we let it mature a little first. << Prolly for the best. Meme'ing isn't drilling, there's no room to play with 12 volts of conveniece because unlike drill needs to last.
mircea_popescu: you plan to sleep till then ?
asciilifeform: what can i say, wake me up when mircea_popescu shows up to disarm the ss.
mircea_popescu: and in some households the woman is doing the talkin'.
asciilifeform: i heard that things might be a little different on mircea_popescu's planet, but on the one where i live, it is usg who does the givin' and the takin'.
asciilifeform: they dun 'buy' any more than hitler did.
mircea_popescu: heh. in their dreamzzz.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform last i checked they still buy them with dollars. those can be taken anyway from them as well as from anyone.
asciilifeform: 'how about taking away all weapons from wehrmacht'
mircea_popescu: i imagine that's what he meant to say, right ? it'd clearly make "attacks like these" much less deadly.
asciilifeform: lel go an' take.
mircea_popescu: "if you work for the government, in any capacity, you're slave not a citizen. pick up a shovel and make yourself useful. bitch."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how about taking away ALL weapons from ALL usg-paid ANYONE.
asciilifeform: and the inevitable: '"When people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and tragic," Obama told a press conference during a trip to Poland. "In the days ahead we're going to have to consider those realities."' (obummer)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll let you do a piece to introduce the term. Need to be very clear on applications so context is needed.
asciilifeform: http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_27/1611816/ss-160708-dallas-police-shooting-08_40853e7282ab7e261e2f1662efde0027.nbcnews-ux-1024-900.jpg << love the face
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo proposed alternative terminology for the us : "The Great Great-Again", GGA.
mircea_popescu: i thought he had to order drone strikes
mircea_popescu: in texas ?!
asciilifeform: 'President Barack Obama, who was in Warsaw for a NATO meeting, said the U.S. was "horrified" by the "vicious, callous and despicable attack."' << gold.
asciilifeform: none go off until the field senses 10,001 foot steps.
asciilifeform: as to what's to keep enemy from using up 1 captive to test - this is what the 'encircle' program is for.
asciilifeform: if you have the key, you know which half hour the field is passable in, per week.
asciilifeform: is timed gaps.
asciilifeform: one obvious way to have crypto-mines with NO comms,
asciilifeform: to round off the thread,
mircea_popescu: we leave this for ben_vulpes 's robot miner army.
asciilifeform: when i first learned of pykrete, i had the obvious idea
mircea_popescu: considering what the current ships are like, pykrete's a much better alternative.
asciilifeform: scarcely gets cheaper than pykrete.
mircea_popescu: but think for a moment... what'd a nylon mesh do for concrete ? what'd graphite strucutre ? etc.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of "keeps us from exploring", isn't it funny how abandoned special concretes are today ? the VERY related field of special ceramics gets all the love. because obviously, the earlier linked robot.
asciilifeform: there are already mines that let N tanks pass before triggering, it is very old idea.
asciilifeform: low-tech thing.
asciilifeform: 'large prey' was already baked in ww2, tank mines
asciilifeform: mines with acoustic sensors could do many spiffy things. such as... ~encircling~ the enemy.
trinque: suppose you could spread out antenna in the dirt though, such that it's imprecise
trinque: any signaling of "off" gives up the position of the mines
asciilifeform: so the search for mythical '100% reliable' mine is a distration. and a useful one, because it keeps usg from deploying the thing.
asciilifeform: e.g., many ww2 engagements, had substantially > than that friendly fire casualty rate.
asciilifeform: of the near future.
asciilifeform: they, however, WILL work, for a medieval-style 'no you are not precious snowflake and guess what, your grenade during training has 5% chance of killing you and stfu' army.
asciilifeform: it is the obvious reason why - afaik - no modern army fields crypto mines.
trinque: yeah, I don't see a great way of confirming back that it's disarmed
asciilifeform: the main difficulty is, in getting the mechanism to be 100% reliable.
asciilifeform: only gotta send a few kB, and who gives a fuck if it takes half an hour.
asciilifeform: and at any rate, cannot be shielded and will thus be pickable up with nonlinear junction detector.
asciilifeform: it is the obvious, screaming way to do the crypto comms, but entirely and catastrophically wrong.
asciilifeform: you don't want a radio receiver in them.
asciilifeform: i will point out the possibly non-obvious aspect, here, for future reference:
asciilifeform: the next me will make it, or the third, or fourth.
mircea_popescu: by now... i don't hope i'll live to see it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was kinda thinking, back in 2013, that who knows by 2020 nsa could be making that.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; the us "survivalist" folks have the right idea, even if they don't understand the higher level considerations necessarily. "if you're going to build, build a bunker"
asciilifeform: a crypto-toggled mine would be a fine thing.
mircea_popescu: in the sea they're fine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform note that they only campaign against mines ON LAND
BingoBoingo: IN defensive news StL and apparently other deparments today began mandating wearing of their kevlar vests, optional before
mircea_popescu: pity tmsr doesn't currently include an architect.
asciilifeform: they are the poor man's soldier.
asciilifeform: why do you suppose the 'internashinl komyoooooniti' campaigns against mines ?
asciilifeform: recall the land mines thread ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem with defensive means is that they empower the individual. state wants offensive means, and if possible to fight all wars against strictly offensive forces.
asciilifeform: it is one of those 'libraries' that ~every~ state #includes.
asciilifeform: EVERY major city today is defined by the turning radius of a tank.
asciilifeform: which, notably, was effective lesson to future 'beoble's republics' as to how not to build city.
BingoBoingo: Anyways new drill's chicom makers were sufficiently polite so as to let me be the one to break in the motor's brushes. Was very sparky out of the box, tamer now.
mircea_popescu: nowhere today, no. i was discussing the baricadable paris of 1700/1800
BingoBoingo: Do wish for adapter to cord it to lead acid battery terminal though.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Also have corded and the hand powered kind of cordless
asciilifeform: i thought BingoBoingo was moving to 19th c. hand tools
BingoBoingo: In other news all is right with the world again as I have new cordless drill.
asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/01/police_robot_burns_down_house/?mt=1467993035014 << somehow i missed this gem.
mircea_popescu: usg nightmare scenario is exactly this, highly defensive "everything's a fortress and with gun ports" bourgeois restructuring of the town.
mircea_popescu: so building a castle was ~the only practical way to prepare for war. except as the kings successfuly found out, a defensive item defends whoever's there, not whoever built it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the untold story of the us "we can't defend, we attack" thing is evident in the history of medieval castle warfare. at the time, war was heavily defensive, there was ~no effectual way to attack whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: i mean, more than in 1016, but not as much as projected in 1976
mircea_popescu: not that much, shockingly.
mircea_popescu: but it was the example!
asciilifeform: tuna might be the last wild-caught thing.
mircea_popescu: river tuna ?
asciilifeform: dunno that most folks in usa ever eat ~oceanic~ fish even now.
mircea_popescu: except... there's not another 60, not that another 60 would be enough next time.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:16 asciilifeform: https://i.imgsafe.org/87582032d9.jpg << moar tuna than you will ever see in one place.
mircea_popescu: for now, there's 60tons of ro gold. like you know, during trajan, exactly.
mircea_popescu: once people gotta forage their own food, things change.
mircea_popescu: this will continue for as long as there exists no -ev peons in the us. for as long as the govt can pay and pay and pay, it works.
asciilifeform: cheaper than half dozen dead cops.
mircea_popescu: by spending more than they're worth ?