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mircea_popescu: in cryptography, every constant's a salt. you're well advised to change ALL constants
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 you know how if you install wordpress you're supposed to change the pre-generated salt to something ?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller possibly i brought it up here, but otherwise it's old scool.
mircea_popescu: so no, i'd trust anything nist/ieee/etc certified a lot less than i'd trust random shit.
mircea_popescu: you are in fact better off using homebrew than "well vetted", inasmuch as the western world is in denial about exactly what "well vetted" means as well as what "working towards stopping use for illicit activity" means
mircea_popescu: bounce except this would meet the definition of "well vetted" as commonly deployed.
mircea_popescu: that site's so funny, it's been declaring the world ends tomorrow so convincingly and for so long by now its only audience are people who actually factually believe the world ends tomorrow, each and every day. so there's this palpable atmosphere of
mircea_popescu: o which reminds me, did the doom zerohedge announced as a given manifest in the fx markets yet ?
mircea_popescu: they've already won the war on drugs, the war on poverty and the war on terrorism.
mircea_popescu: not particularly curious as to how that confrontation's gonna end out. seen too many tards try to spit up.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, bitcoin is working fro mstopping murck &co's illicit activities.
mircea_popescu: "fuck you and get used to making the laws you can enforce as opposed to making the laws your delusions require" ?
mircea_popescu: this is perhaps going to be the one thing economists of the future will be trying to keep in balance.
mircea_popescu: (hoarded btc) + traded btc = traded property + (hoarded property)
mircea_popescu: however, because bitcoin will be hoarded in general and transacted rarely, it is quite possible for there to appear a new macroeconomics equation :
mircea_popescu: superficially, if one thinks btc is a drop-in replacement for fiat (which it isn't, just like car isn't exactly a drop in replacement for tricycle) one'd expect the same to hold
mircea_popescu: it doesn't have a good answer. on one hand, fiat currency can never meet the total asset value, for very well understood reasons.
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: i suppose it's possible for bitcoin to be worth more than all the transactable equity in the world <<< this is actually one of the largest, most interesting questions in bitcoin finance.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mike_c well i guess it got deleted meanwhile. it just said "owned like a pony" or something
mircea_popescu: add the full minutes as an add-on file to be linked from your article for the perennially curious
mircea_popescu: princessnell_ the one he published or the one he acutally gave ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so it turns out deedbot got haxed. << deets? << someone put a random deed up there, i linked it above the comment.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: (put a bullet through a long-overdue zombie) << zombie being what, people running gentoo through an emulator on windows ?
mircea_popescu: it's one thing doing news pieces because that's the news. but people writing blogs aren't doing newspieces, they're doing editorial, and the news burnout is a century old, well known and documented mode of failure for editors.
mircea_popescu: soon enough all the forced writing kills your spark and then you're dead.
mircea_popescu: the problem with drinking the coolaid and starting to perceive yourself as "of a field" is that you end up with this obligatory slag.
mircea_popescu: no argument, but let's not forget they aren't in the world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform these are also not pure categories in nature. their distinction follows tradition
mircea_popescu: these aren't distinguishable in the field. the nominal distinction follows mood or at best tradition.
mircea_popescu: which is why business has the concept of "knew or should have known". cuz it makes exactly no difference whether he "actually" knew.
mircea_popescu: the female ability to reclassify rape as consensual and consensual as rape and to negotiate her own presence in the circumstances of her being does exactly jack shit for any discussion of reality.
mircea_popescu: half of leningrad died in one night because a bunch of people "weren't really doing" what they were doing.
mircea_popescu: they weren't really aware what it is they're doing, right ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's such bs. you know how the soviets worked, right ? all the scum reporting to the nkvd "had to", right ?
mircea_popescu: convenient idiots ? tyvm, it's exactly anderpopolous' line. "i'm not really shilling, i'm just stupid. buy my shit!"
mircea_popescu: then zeke is all "o, not possible to be stooges". duh. what else are they ?
mircea_popescu: it seems the exact same sort of entirely broken, pseudoscientific, narcissistic gung-ho idiocy
mircea_popescu: am i the only one who is amused by the strict similarity between the "o we know how climate works ; listen to us to fix what's broken with earth's industry" of these muppets and the "o, we know how hardware will work in the future ; listen ot us to fix what's broken with bitcoin" of the BF sponsored muppets ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform matters not. the lord doesn't aim to kill sin, merely as many sinners as can get hands on.
mircea_popescu: for instance, about 98% of english speaking people involved in earth studies just rendered themselves
mircea_popescu: bounce not a problem of science, of course, but a problem of scientists, actual and aspiring.
mircea_popescu: because no, no study produced by ANY PERSON who ever produced a "global warming" piece of "research" can ever be used for any scientific purpose whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: if you support policy with your "findings" you ruin your career once those findings turn out to be not truth, but mere science.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is why it's unwise for people aspiring to science to get involved in politics.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski oh, that's how you say "we fucked up royally and lost any possible shred of crediblity" in government-scientistalese now ? "we have more to learn" ?
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the notion of javascript:pop makes me sad.
mircea_popescu: bounce not nearly as hard as a compiler, if you mean a tight optimizing compiler. otherwise, rms has been writing compilers in a day and a half on emacs.
mircea_popescu: lisp never managed, for instance. neither did python. etc.
mircea_popescu: making it take off and become what EVERYONE uses is going to be a lot more work than that.
mircea_popescu: but it is. and you can repeat with own hands, as a model
mircea_popescu: "the liver is fine, it's all that other shit sround it"
mircea_popescu: "my solution for fixing this guy's liver is to dispense with the guy"
mircea_popescu: well if that's how you're going to go about it, how about running deathtrack in an emulator while linux handles bitcoin and call it a msdos bitcoind ?
mircea_popescu: you do, yes, inasmuch as afaik it's compiled on 16 bit with a bunch of strange as what's maxint. won't even be able to reference half the arrays becayse they smash various stacks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what sonny, you're too good for volume swaps ?
mircea_popescu: wasn't exactly "designed from the ground up with portability in mind"
mircea_popescu: kinda my point. bitcoind makes a bunch of assumptions about what it can do to the internet
mircea_popescu: tbh the msdos stack bug carnival + bitcoin bug carnival would be one sad hell.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pankkake hey listen, how much would you want to compile and sign a bunch of code ? specifically eulora codebase and proper bitcoind (.6-.7 versions) ? gentoo and whatever else you can stomach.
mircea_popescu: anyone want to do a bunch of compiling and sign stuff ?
mircea_popescu: but actually his is a legitimate request. i guess im adding this to the "wanted maintainer for eulora binaries" thing : wanted maintainer for bitcoin binaries.
mircea_popescu: i guess it's an interesting question, "what's the new guy to do". bunch of playing catchup it seems
mircea_popescu: generally the people involved in bitcoin to this level kinda have the history, and a complete file of historical versions and so on.
mircea_popescu: well you get the code off the repository and compile it