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mircea_popescu: all
the work one could do pen and paper was done by 1925/1930.
trinque: which is why politics in
the broadest sense is a more fundamental human problem
than "physics"
mircea_popescu: so
then it IS a parochial argument
to ignorance, "but mp, i can't see my spleen!"
trinque: right. entirely separate consideration from whether a physicist needs fuel
to do his physics
mircea_popescu: trinque
the issue
that people are miserable at educating
their children is not really much of an excuse. stop sucking at it!
mircea_popescu: isn't
this
the same "color of my spleen and i can't see who landed on
the moon on my own desk" argument ?
trinque: asciilifeform: doesn't address
the "whence
the damned money"
mircea_popescu: you sex
through finding a warm, wet hole
to stick penis into. no, penis on its own not sufficient. no, hole by itself dun work. etc.
mircea_popescu: you don't just person because you felt persony
that day.
mircea_popescu: want
to be a person, get
teh monyz first.
then YOUR SON can be a person in your stead.
mircea_popescu: again and for
the last
time - being poor disqualifies one ~from humanity~.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure for every machiavelli
that did find ink and paper, a hundred didn't.
this has very little
to do with anything.
mircea_popescu: what, schwartz got named in schroedinger's
testament or what is it.
mircea_popescu: gtfo.
the sluts at home and
the limp dicks at
the bar demolished it.
mircea_popescu: it's really
the ~equiv of space race, half century later.
mircea_popescu: what will
they spend on ? upkeeping roads ? "social justice" ? building really REALLY large cyclotron much better option
than anything
the us did with its set of printolade in
the same interval.
mircea_popescu: there is no option here.
the eu has a budget, which it has
taxed. it has
to be spent. if it's not spent, recession, and much like a car
that has been accelerated
to
the point where it either continues, or crashes horribly,
they have
to keep going. if recession,
the whole "modern democracy" nonsense comes unglued.
mircea_popescu: recall all
the idiot "popular press" going on about how "it'll end
teh world!!11" ?
mircea_popescu: kinda
the fucking point of "first item of its kind" is
to see what happens, neh ?
mircea_popescu: it is also not possible from where you sit
to distinguish if your spleen is red or green in color.
mircea_popescu: understandably, it cost a little more
than what a us state is worth.
mircea_popescu: arguably, also "worth ~= weight in scrap" for
that matter.
mircea_popescu: it's a cyclotron dude. so much a
technical item as your
toaster.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental property of ... property, as a construct, is
that it is ALWAYS separable from
the real estate.
mircea_popescu: because i now suspect i was always
talking of
the former part and you of
the latter.
mircea_popescu: so let's separate
the matter of
the actual physical
tool
that is
the cern cyclotron from
the presumed bureaucratic nonsense built around it.
mircea_popescu: such is life, but
the berylium bed is STILL required if you're gonna use a reflector.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure people had
to sign all sorts of spurious crap in order
to give
themselves a nice
tan in
the berylium bed.
mircea_popescu: but
that bureaucratic nonsense has nothing
to do with
the damned
tools.
mircea_popescu: is your entire objection
to be reduced
to "for shame
the eu billions went
to a comission,
they should have just given
the moneyt directly as personal gifts
to science heros"?
mircea_popescu: "i need someone ELSE
to GIVE me a million" is
the very definition of a kid.
mircea_popescu: mno.
the wet dream of every kid with a superman delusion
that was recast into "science genius" rather
than shed is
that hey, he shall FIGHT CRIME ^H^H^H i mean DISCOVER SCIENCE.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-11 16:29 asciilifeform: which is why you can get usg or eurounion
to cough up $B for a crackpot machine, but not $1M for you
to sit in a chalet in
the alps and schrodingerate
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1501221 <<
the fundamental reason being,
that
the forest has been hunted bare,
then cut down.
this idealistic "i shall make physics discovery without refined
tools" yields exactly sovietisms a la "aggregated water" and "Lysenko's hardy winter crops"
☝︎ phf: asciilifeform:
there's a wide range of socially clued people from mircea_popescu
to asciilifeform. you don't have
to go all maxint
to assume
that something will fly
mircea_popescu: "would you like
to import full_libertardism()
through
the venue of atheism, or what exact
tiny
topic ?"
mircea_popescu: then "people" who are stupid enough
to stay atomized "can pick".
mircea_popescu: find legitimate single issue, attach
THE WHOLE RAFT of libertardism
to it.
mircea_popescu: and
they keep doing
this,
too, if anyone's curtis yarvin's model, hitchens
mircea_popescu: but
talking about "got x
to y", hitchens is fine example : got "atheist"
to mean "idiot liberal". ffs.
mircea_popescu: oh, recall
the case of
the saudi
that "fell" on a naked 17yo girl whose friend was spending
the night ?
trinque: kissinger more or less did detente, also worked on opening
the relationship with
the chicoms
mircea_popescu: it has happened historically. just because you're not
the sort
to do it doesn't mean it';s not done.
phf: ok, ok, sherifs are allowed
to conceal cary in DC, hence
the approach above
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform his point,
that you may well obtain a courtesy earldom from minor german prince and have france court respect
this stands.
mircea_popescu: i
think you
two gotta differentiate "gun as nobility mark" from "gun as
tool of labour"
phf: well, *knew. i'm not sure how
things might've changed in 10 years
phf: asciilifeform: nah,
there are options. i know security guys
that have concealed caries in DC, you have
to demonstrate
that you've been repeatedly assaulted (or i assume if you're going
through agency)
that you're in immediate danger of assault, etc. a random mall derp's not going
to get it, but a freelance security can
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't he
the guy
that came up with
the detente with
the soviets ?