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asciilifeform: but every time i look at newton, i recall why it died, thing fits in ~no pocket.
asciilifeform: and every so often toy with the idea of getting one and cleaning it up
phf: it's funny how back then was like "well, this is not quite there, but i'm sure they'll work out kinks in the future"
asciilifeform: i still miss the thing
pete_dushenski: aha. i had one as a kid. it was very spiffy toy.
phf: pete_dushenski: compared to shit that came out since palm pilot script was amazing
asciilifeform: it was a reasonable simulacrum of handwriting, for short inputs, rather than a futile banging of your fingers against unresponsive surface
asciilifeform: so they do not damage themselves.
asciilifeform: folks with a propensity for this, used to be put in padded cell
asciilifeform: without a mechanical dampener, it is same as banging against the wall.
pete_dushenski: or palm pilot 'script' twenty years ago
asciilifeform: or the touch screen idiocy
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: snore, for same reason as the laser keyboard of 10 yrs ago
pete_dushenski: trinque: gotta love 'illegal attempt' to seize power. well ya, no shit. what fucking legal attempts to seize power could there possibly be ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.gizmag.com/tap-strap-wearable-bluetooth-keyboard/43337/ << speaking of styluses and alt-input devices, i give you this abomination.
asciilifeform: in all likelihood, the crock of shit was concocted with the aim of making us waste some cycles attempting to answer said q's.
asciilifeform: and what, precisely, kept him from having exact superset of sks, for that matter, i got quite a few which he did not.
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i'd still like to know where bock got all of those pubkeys that aren't in sks. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:27 trinque: or BingoBoingo's "the debate was had"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503284 << yeah, also a large piece of the dumbsenal. "this shouldn't be discussed because it already was" "when and by whom ?" "don't ask so many questions" ☝︎
asciilifeform: not any dumber than mitming my trb node.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it does - login is chiefly by-ip. even if the "cookies" nonsense has not been excised.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 18:26 pete_dushenski: this daylight theft wrapped up as 'transparencee' caters directly to teh aspie crowd, the kind who fancies himself genre savvy without really being so. the victim of 'taught controversy', if you will.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503282 << note that usg.crap is always "rape as marital bliss", "bankruptcy as wealth" etc etc. ☝︎
asciilifeform: from my reading of the src, mp-wp does not materially differ from stock wp in this respect
mircea_popescu: not the way it works on mp-wp, not really.
asciilifeform: it pulls in the whole shitstack
asciilifeform: 1 is not any easier than 1,001
trinque: pete_dushenski: the world can not both be befouled by socialism and socialism be ineffective *at creating the products of socialism*
mircea_popescu: as to css, whatevs. isn't actually needed.
mircea_popescu: you also don't as a matter of principle need or want https. you might notice trilema redirects you to http
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 17:49 asciilifeform: long ago, i tried my hand at 'sane blogging engine' and barfed; simply can't stand wwwtronic idiocy, e.g,. 'logging in', 'browser state', https crapolade tower, css, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503273 << in principle you don't want logging for browser ; just to identify the owner. this is not so unlike the concept of root. otherwise - logins are mostly a "forum" ie, www-bbs item ☝︎
trinque: and yet it sits there, and you do not.
pete_dushenski: ie. not the high watermark so much as a tenuously related shadow of the thing itself
pete_dushenski: you can only say that usg is 'literally' effective if you degrade the definition of effective to the point where it's what petrocheese is to french brie
trinque: there is no god in the sky handing out flags for bad form
trinque: if wishes were.. or however the thing goes
trinque: so, while I loathe the creature, while it still sits there, it is *literally* still effective.
trinque: this is precisely mircea_popescu's and asciilifeform's conversation (yesterday?) about the definition of an army
pete_dushenski: which is why they want the internet to be 'safe' by using exactly that broken technology. sure. but this is like the hunter who only visits the zoo. can you still call him an effective hunter ?
trinque: these nazis certainly *can* break various forms of "SSL", to pick something at random
trinque: yes, because this is how the allies beat the nazis, by parroting "nazis can't do anything anyway"
pete_dushenski: they can both be different and useless. so why isn't this the case ?
pete_dushenski: but them not being the same and the possibility of one being effective are differing considerations
a111: Logged on 2016-07-12 20:35 mircea_popescu: "oh i know, we've created a sort of monarchy without a king, basically just the court and nobody there to behead us - we'll call it democracy. if anyone inquires into the matter we can always add modern in front and it'll be all good!"
pete_dushenski: to be sure, parts aren't the same because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-12#1502227 ☝︎
trinque: one of the interesting parts of the coming disintegration of the federal govt is getting to see what gangs exist within
trinque: the part which breaks cryptography for insider trading and such isn't necessarily the same which ham-handedly lights the middle east on fire
pete_dushenski: ...if you're in the position to name things
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: well, dan isn't a nickname for daniel.... except it is. that different people are better known by one or the other doesn't change the fact that 'king dick the lionheart' is perfectly valid
pete_dushenski: trinque: 'never' and 'ever' are long timeframes, granted. but where do you draw the line ?
danielpbarron: Dan is not a nickname for Daniel. The former came way before the latter. Dan was a son of Jacob (Israel), Daniel was a prophet who came generations later
trinque: that the thing is politically inept does not reduce to "never did anything ever"
pete_dushenski: pretty much reduces to dan's 'invisible visible god' yknow
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'm aware of this ancient thread. aha
pete_dushenski: looks like it's pretty obvious where their marketing efforts are going atm eh
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the usg that promulgates diddled ciphers which are then breakable with array of fpga, and the usg that puts my mail into the box across the street, are not same entity.
pete_dushenski: i hesitate to ask what usg understands 'cryptoanalysis' to mean in practical terms because it's hard to fathom that it can either think or act on such terms, but...
pete_dushenski: so pardon my ignorance but what were crays used for back when they were used ?
asciilifeform: (we know that ??? eats plenty of mains current, and requires titanic coolers, just like the old crays; and likewise that it does not consist wholly of stock x86 boxes.)
asciilifeform: after the demise of cray, the old machines were decommissioned, and replaced with ???
pete_dushenski: what, mining ltc then ?
pete_dushenski: hard to believe that brokeback usg is spending $bn on anything useful just to store in industrial warehouse until majick ltc day cometh
asciilifeform: i have nfi for what they are used, for all i know they glue them into a throne for hitler to sit in.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: xilinx and altera make $B+ of them / yr and they aren't going into tv sets etc.
asciilifeform: ask the fella with the intel and s33333r111t evidence, not me
diana_coman is not much into graphics but has heard more of Inkscape than Gimp
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: is it clear to you that usg has edge with scrypt over chicoms ?
pete_dushenski: shinohai: gotta love the '6-12 months' bit too. so vague, so comminuteee oriented, so 'when the feeling strikes'
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: recall that usg sits on top of egyptian pyramid - sized heap of fpga. why not, then, hijack an old, familiar scrypt-based altcoin, and proclaim 'see, YES WE CAN!111' etc ☟︎
shinohai: Because if we don't do it to Bitcoin, we lost the war and our upboats meant NOTHING!!!!
pete_dushenski: " SW in particular has a number of strong benefits but also alters fundamental code that underpins billions of dollars in value. For this reason we have sympathy with the proposal that it be implemented in Litecoin first. After a period of 6 to 12 months SW could then be applied to Bitcoin, incorporating any lessons learned." << why not experiment with eth ? dao ? c-ripple even ? digging up ltc corpse is
asciilifeform: even 'deluxe paint II' for amiga (!) beats the shit out of gimp. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (anyone who brings up gimp immediately reveals himself as someone who never drew anything more complex than 'rageface')
asciilifeform: likewise there is no open drawing proggy worth half a sparrow's fart
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is a trivial technical problem, that will likely never be solved, because there is no open cad proggy worth a sparrow's fart.
asciilifeform: 'validation is for distrustful terrorists'
diana_coman: hm, as far as I know it should be able to pin the part/shape based on position+pressure and then I don't see indeed why wouldn't it be able to react to turning the pen - maybe it's a precision thing?
asciilifeform: 'Adoption of Xtreme Thinblocks (Xthin) such that all implementations have interoperable fast block propagation. Results from recent testing involving nodes both inside and outside Mainland China indicates that blocks up to 20MB are manageable for the network.' << 'crock of shit will collapse overnight if clients actually try to validate mega-blox, so forget about it'
asciilifeform: 'we won't anally roger you, but we will insert this painless road cone, in advance, and you will not even feel it when it is replaced with cock'
asciilifeform: 'Making non-mining full nodes “fork-tolerant” by decoupling them from the miners with respect to the prevailing block size limit. There is no need for ordinary node owners to upgrade as and when miners do, or accept a risky “flag day” event. Bitcoin Unlimited already has fork-tolerant nodes via BUIP001 where non-mining nodes always track the longest Proof-of-Work chain, and are agnostic to block version resizing flags.' << l0
asciilifeform: shinohai: contingent of fresh shills? i did say, they will never run out
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i do, e.g., cad, and would like to be able to, say, rotate a part by pinning it with a pen, and turning the pen. but this does not, afaik, exist.
asciilifeform: you can move cursor, and that's ~it.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is possible to read the raw numbers from the pen, in linux, yes - even tilt angles. but afaik there is no proggy that usefully eats them.
pete_dushenski has friends in france atm. figures that they haven't called from nth republican prison yet is a good sign.
diana_coman: at least this worked with linux, must add
diana_coman: ah, I just played around a bit with it kind of tried all sorts from some basic drawing to handwriting (it was supposedly to be useful for some remote discussions kind of stuff) to mouse replacement
pete_dushenski: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2016/07/mike-pences-economic-voting-record.html << trump
danielpbarron: i have a broken toshiba portege m200 that had a decent pen/touchscreen thing, but that was with winbl0wz and I can't imagine it would be easy to get that working on a linux
diana_coman: this was however a tablet so not a display in itself
diana_coman: it *can* be used if one needs to in the sense that yes, one can get some job done with it, but otherwise control is rather poor, have to scroll/move hand awkwardly to cover all the screen, pen is not even very comfortable to use/grip (at least not for my hand) etc
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: "no car bombs, no evil, no bad things here! best republic of freedom and fries ever invented is weee"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 17:36 asciilifeform: if anybody reading this has used one of them gadgets, plz write in.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-15#1503266 <- I *tried* to use a small wacom tablet & pen thing and it was quite atrocious really ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://fox13now.com/2016/07/14/car-bomb-explosion-kills-one-in-southeast-nevada/ << in which nevada looks increasingly like baghdad after the fall.
pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-live-to-be-rich/#comment-118078 << speaking of the fashion, don't be too harsh u guise!! jeez why can't everyone just take a chill pill
pete_dushenski: or 'no brainer' as is the fashion
a111: Logged on 2016-07-15 14:56 BingoBoingo: I'm not sure they *need* the Levant if they have France