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nubbins`: nothing worse than some asshole in front of you in line buying
a cookie with debit
mircea_popescu: "i'm
a shopper, not
a mathematician. this is why i can't use cash"
pankkake: "I'm
a CEO, not
a chip designer. That's why I took advice from
a professor."
nubbins`: pankkake: is that
a dual-flush button i see on top there?!
oleganza: asciilifeform: so when you redeem stuff, you ask people to sign
a particular piece of data instead of revealing their private keys
jurov`: however, everyone knows the public address then.. but it's
a start
nubbins`: ended up having to use
a wad of paper :(
nubbins`: first time i used
a bidet was in
a sink-toilet
pankkake: I wish I had
a bidet! that really should be standard
pankkake: there are some ugly/ridiculous ones. mine is grey so you it's mostly
a nice pattern, not faking wood
pankkake: I have
a floating floor that is very easy to clean, I barely use the vacuum cleaner anymore
nubbins`: we barely have need for
a vacuum
pankkake: I once proposed to do it for free for anyone having
a fancy vacuum cleaner
nubbins`: keeping that place clean is
a full-time job
nubbins`: and you sit in
a chair, emasculated, wacthing
a bunch of naked women lel at your life
pankkake: well if I wanted to pay for someone to clean my house, I'd rather have been done by
a half naked lady
nubbins`: i'm less intimidating than i was when i had
a beard tho ;(
nubbins`: so really you're just paying
a bunch of strippers to do
a shitty job of cleaning your house.
oleganza: okay, i'll rephrase. It's
a convenient way to strongly protect your stash even against yourself (getting
a malware, forgetting password etc.)
mircea_popescu: yes, but you are thinking about it in
a very narrow manner.
oleganza: i'm talking about my idea of
a wallet app that allows to keep your stash safe even if you or someone's computer is badly compromised later
nubbins`: asciilifeform: trudeau is as close as canada got to
a fuhrer
mircea_popescu: your scheme relies on the idiot comprehending m-of-n, which is
a higher bar than comprehending "this is your wallet file, keep it safe"
ozbot: Generous Military Sends $800 In Disability To Man Who Wakes Up Screaming Every Night | The Onion -
A mircea_popescu: KRS|gotyawallet yes,
a new chan was created
a pparently, named -pricetalk
nubbins`: “Today we lost not only an international hero and
a symbol of the resilient human spirit, but also the very first political figure ever who people actively wish was still alive and affecting world affairs,” said political historian Wallace M. Delaney
mircea_popescu: from
a security viewpoint, however, it does not idiot proof anything.
mircea_popescu: that may be, but we were discussing idiot proofing the wallet by
a share to friends scheme.
oleganza: i know
a lot of mac people who couldn't use git or any UI on top of git until I created Gitbox
mircea_popescu: "investing" by unprofessionals is and will remain
a major security risk.
oleganza: today investing in BTC for
a non-CS guru is
a major security problem
jcpham: i think an unencrypted wallet.dat on your normal windows users' computer is like hanging
a neon sign in your car asking people to steal it
nubbins`: putting
a password on your wallet makes it more idiot vulnerable
thestringpuller: On top of all that, this isn't like trading on the New York Stock Exchange. Midday Wednesday, MPEx appeared to shut down, and the prices of the contracts disappeared. I was told this happens
a lot. As of early Thursday, the exchange still wasn't listing prices. What's more, after running through my math of the trade with
a Coinbr broker in
a chat room, with the conclusion that basically the trade doesn't make sen
thestringpuller: ;;later tell Bugpowder why are they still calling it
a bubble?
nubbins`: newsprint is cheap, i could push out
a rag every so often for minimal cost
oleganza: idea:
a friend sends you his pubkey
oleganza: and your p2sh script is
a list of pubkeys from all your N friends. This better be kept secret from them so they don't know where's your money
nubbins`: if it's
a pubkey, why secure it at all?
nubbins`: slim odds that someone would MITM your email and modify your attachment maliciously in such
a way that the beginning and end 3-4 chars of the md5 hash were the same
oleganza: then inside the app you create
a multisig transaction and choose people and their keys.
nubbins`: PARs would be tiny for something like this,
a few tens of kb max
nubbins`: so you create
a 5-part rar and 4 pars, distribute 1 par to each of 4 friends, then delete 1 or more rars from your collection
nubbins`: at the risk of sounding silly, why not just make
a multi-part rar, create some .par files, and distribute those to friends?
oleganza: with
a proper UI (which is the whole point), my mom can have some shitty password on her wallet and move money like that to 5 of her children. She can't be robbed and her privacy is good enough
oleganza: so you will see "* B C", another guy will see "
A * C" and third guy will have "
A B *"
oleganza: because i'm trying to solve
a problem "I saved $1M 5 years ago"
oleganza: and you don't need to remember
a password. You just go to them
oleganza: so: backing up the wallet on some 3rd party service does not solve
a problem of forgotten key
KRS|gotyawallet: i have gathered some notes and know
a few things about this
KRS|gotyawallet: Santa Cruz Operations had
a solid future if they didnt let opportunity pass them by.
KRS|gotyawallet: 16:06:35 ThickAsThieves: - You write
a 2013 $100,000 call option to your bitcoins, so that I can buy them from you anytime, by just sending you $10 million U.S. Dollars
KRS|gotyawallet: might not want it to be persisent, each time
a user comes in this stuff should be sanitized
mircea_popescu: KRS|gotyawallet there's certainly
a market, asciilifeform long wanted
a host, i asked namworld for
a price like
a month ago, still waiting.
jurov`: dunno, there are throngs hosting providers.. offering
a shell you can do stuff in immediately it's better imo
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr "o hey there you are. i had
a nightmare. you and inaba were taking me to the urologist."
KRS|gotyawallet: i wish i had more time, if theres
a compiler and
a text editor i could start doing funny stuff
KRS|gotyawallet: not sure if they patched it, but it read as
a huge problem, because vmware shares memory, you can grab the memory contents of other machines and even the host
KRS|gotyawallet: did you hear that researchers have found
a way to look outside of
a vm, like
a vmware virtual machine for instance
twizt: and be
a sauce millionaire lol
twizt: i cant wait to get
a job
twizt: jurov`: well i was
a risk analyst.developer at my last gig
twizt: i had
a interview yesterday, and another one in 3 hrs
twizt: i go for that job, talk to the SVP who tells me they'll create
a hybrid finance/tech job for me
twizt: check this, i went to interview for
a job right (finance/accounting), hiring manager saw that I could code
pankkake: I lost my job
a few months after taking the loan
twizt: shit man i wish i could get
a loan
pankkake: but at
a point you could get about 40k€ 0% loan for real estate
pankkake: including
a state 0% loan. I could have had two, but missed it due to bureaucracy (and now it doesn't exist)
twizt: if ur
a good creditworthy person (ie didnt get suckered into real estate investing pre collapse)
KRS|gotyawallet: and if bitcoin rallys hell, I'll have
a chair on the MPEX too.
KRS|gotyawallet: Marc Faber, editor and publisher of The Gloom, Boom & Doom Report, told CNBC on Friday he believes
a "massive speculative bubble" has encroached on everything from stocks and bonds to alternative currency bitcoin and farmland. He attributed the vast bubble to "symptoms of excess liquidity
KRS|gotyawallet: im just sayin i was thinking that the block chain could become unwieldy over time/growth..i admit i dont know
a lot about it, but we haven't got to this size and usage yet.