log☇︎
3300+ entries in 0.031s
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:02:14 mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> no, i'm not interested in sending you a harddrive so maybe you'll do something whatever in your garage.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, he has *something*; it's still on the to-figure-out list just what and so on; I'll update if/when something useful but not earlier and there's still quite a lot to clarify there even before spending any time on any code.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's orig. vtron did not make use of the net at all, runs a++ on boxes w/out nics, and imho this is Right Thing.
asciilifeform: fwiw a mp-wp extension that lets folx 'download these-here patches' imho may be useful. but really ought not to be ~in vtron~ .
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 08:07:58 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 08:07:58 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947786 << there was a 295 (u.s. $) deposit at the colo house , but the rest ( will detail in new article ) -- went for iron . ( even if had no rack -- it's time to replenish my depleted stock of iron. )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:55:54 spyked: also, I think this is useful as a feedback/reflective instrument. if you make expectation for next 3 months, then in 3 months you have something clear to eval, adjust etc. otherwise it's just ???
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:36:55 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947642 <-- eh, not that much work. it took me like a week, and all this proceeding from custom-baked lisp blog
spyked: when I first looked into it, I found it a little odd myself, since it expects a particular URL structure, e.g. mp-wp/v/{patches,seals}. but then I got used to it and even adjusted my v mirror to match. afaik v.pl is the only vtron that comes with this functionality
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 22:42:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
spyked: also, I think this is useful as a feedback/reflective instrument. if you make expectation for next 3 months, then in 3 months you have something clear to eval, adjust etc. otherwise it's just ???
spyked: e right man for zee job, let's discuss a timeline.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947307 <-- defo interested and my schedule is open for changes/amendments come november. I am currently working a full-time saeculum gig, so I wouldn't be able to take this as a full-time thing, but I could do this in small weekly/monthly pieces, as with previous published work. so if you think this works and I'm th
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947642 <-- eh, not that much work. it took me like a week, and all this proceeding from custom-baked lisp blog
asciilifeform: this 1 is on a rk. so e.g. search is palpably slower. but (presently) worx.
asciilifeform discovered today -- similarly to earlier find -- that his new ip range once housed a (long-dead) 'nudecelebritease.com' .
asciilifeform: and incidentally, if asciilifeform cannot actually supply the service mp_en_viaje needs (e.g. if he needs a 24/7 staff of 4 working in shifts ) would rather know about it sooner than later.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:31:20 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:42:27 mp_en_viaje: anyway, i suppose the logical next step is for the remarkably productive bvt to do some benchmarking re speed of possible candidates (a list including atm the chacha and serpent -- knowledgeable folk feel free to propose more candidates) so as to have some practical basis.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 05:46:09 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: why mandate a specific hash function (esp given that there isn't any clear way to base such mandate on "this is best hashing")?
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947552 << this is a nice idea, i will implement it
BingoBoingo also still not at all inclined to evacuate without a better landing place.
BingoBoingo: The damage a judgment does would be constrained in the local environment.
BingoBoingo: I do have a meeting with different counsel tomorrow afternoon as well.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Even the less than full press in the consumer protection docket, which is less expensive piles costs on them faster than myself as its a mostly diy job.
asciilifeform: but does req. a credible threat
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: explain how you obtained a cap for ~enemy~'s budget ?! or do i misread ?
asciilifeform: mod6: i'd even be ok w/ spending a larger (so long as ~bounded~) sum, if we had some notion re the prospects
asciilifeform: mod6: imho makes sense to spend a sum that is strictly < than the cost of evacuating BingoBoingo . but not moar.
mod6: Do we have a specific budget in mind here for what we're willing to spend? Because, for me, it's not very high.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Did you get a chance to read the lawyer meeting notes yet?
asciilifeform: mod6: didja get a chance to read draft 1 btw ?
mod6: asciilifeform: I think it sounds like a good place to rack the foundation's server (as previously discussed).
asciilifeform wonders if he's thinking about this backwards, and oughta instead model the upper half of (expanded) tower as a separate numeric system, w/ same constants but Te == 200.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo and mp were right, btw, it appears that a well-populated rk fixture (and, possibly, shared-machine) are the only way to actually cross that bridge w/out further raising subscriber colo charge.
asciilifeform: ( ^ in the simplest formulation, a full occupancy that brings in net >200 $ (the added expense of upgraded tower) w/out eating into irons amort. budget. )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 13:26:30 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your way is a clean way to handle WP given you have had other things you'd rather do than clean the messes, a product of its time.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947653 << ftr would have fixed, that wasnt the issue; simply wasn't literate enuff in phpism to do a proper cleanup. ( arguably still even nao , php to asciilifeform is ~= cobol )
asciilifeform found that there ~remain~ 'microshit quotes' in certain posts, where text had evidently been pasted from wp output. will have to write a sqlism to remove'em, but prolly not today an' not this week.
asciilifeform: the carrier where it lives, however, is terminally retarded, and it's to be moved as soon as i have a free hand.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my wp is squarely a 'legacy system', analogous to e.g. 'mpb'. i dun propagandize its use, nor intend to separately genesis it, imho mp has the wp question 100% covered .
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your way is a clean way to handle WP given you have had other things you'd rather do than clean the messes, a product of its time.
asciilifeform: it's a manually gardened wp (if not as elaborately cultured as mp's) .
asciilifeform: hell knows. seems to remove the mutilation tho, w/out breaking anyffin (if anyone sees a breakage from this patch on my www, or remaining mutilated quotes -- plox to write in)
asciilifeform: on top of this, i have a gentoo for'em; an automated system for provisioning; and rk is 'most cpu for the watt' box that i'm currently aware of, is imho excellent fit for a wattage-constrained initially small tower.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re rk -- i included rk plant from the following logic : 1) it was best-selling product in era of piz 2) i am sitting on a crate of brand-new rk that did not get invoiced to piz or get to fly 3) pre-existing interest ( e.g. diana_coman's ) in inexpensive www mirrors.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 09:33:16 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-17#1946136 << yup, and once he chases a different skirt in a week or two again, "problems" again and so on.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: re why "for customers", it's a matter of continuity mainly ie how do you plan to actually make this solvent & grow; or don't you plan this? (related: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946258)
asciilifeform: 'this is rubbish, not a proper plan' is not an eggog that i can work from, diana_coman . need detailed 'why, idjit, didntcha explain x?'
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 23:13:53 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my intention is to fully supply the needs of l1, in a sustainable scheme, prior to any mega-expansions.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:11:38 diana_coman: asciilifeform: nice to see the calculations for sure; let me add though that this draft is still not a business plan
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:10:10 diana_coman: asciilifeform: since 1 IP per rack anyway, I don't quite see the sense in keeping this all the time separate and then pushed in as an add-on etc. I'd calculate the Te to include IPs enough for a full rack and that's it; sure, additional IPs are additional and then naturally add-ons but that's separate anyway.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947558 << i considered pre-ordering ( it'll be 62, 14 for 1us and 48 for rk plant, i.e. a /26 ) but that'd be 200/mo vs the current baseline 25, and hesitated to do this until rack actually populated by paying customers, it is steep cost for an empty-for-indefinite-time rack.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947552 << imho this is a+++ idea. tho as i understand all of the prngism applies strictly to /dev/urandom and so not particularly important how it is wired, no one in his right mind will use urandom for anyffin serious
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947549 << asciilifeform is partial to serpent , but strictly because actually had a chance to do some analysis of it ; and dislikes sha for the obv. reason, and chacha ditto for the reason of originating from post-brainrot bernstein. but theoretically all of these snake oils are equally snake oils, and difficult to argue against the standard 'drink t
asciilifeform: other omissions in the draft include FG -- i dun presently have a 'equip erryone who asks' supply of'em here. can equip mp_en_viaje & co, but others will have to wait for wat-do re recovery of FG from piz crater
mp_en_viaje: anyway, i suppose the logical next step is for the remarkably productive bvt to do some benchmarking re speed of possible candidates (a list including atm the chacha and serpent -- knowledgeable folk feel free to propose more candidates) so as to have some practical basis.
mp_en_viaje: and if it does it can also make a vpatch
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:24:44 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, a) to avoid the sha1-powered contraction ; b) to reject, discontinue and clearly mark as untenable pantsuit heritage ; c) to disrupt any possible legacy of usgistani shenanigans in the output ; d) to give meaning to the notion of computer identity ("a computer's key is the hash of the sig it uses to serpent its rng code") and e) for simplicity (one mechanism instead of two as now)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:31:20 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 00:57:27 mp_en_viaje: hey trinque, you feel like taking the tiny concert goer over to cr for a coupla weeks ? you pick up your own airfare ima cover your stay with the fellow.
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-07-14 21:30:25 mircea_popescu: notice as in, you know, actually notice, "omfg i can't believe what a shithead i am, missed out on the financial bitcoin train and then on the political too, i truly am too stuipid to fucking live" and subsequently blow their brains out, as any sort of rational process absolutely dictates...
mp_en_viaje: b in any case is a central point of republican policy, as per both http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2018-07-14#1834692 and http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2016-10-05#1553287 (there's plenty other minor examples0
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, a) to avoid the sha1-powered contraction ; b) to reject, discontinue and clearly mark as untenable pantsuit heritage ; c) to disrupt any possible legacy of usgistani shenanigans in the output ; d) to give meaning to the notion of computer identity ("a computer's key is the hash of the sig it uses to serpent its rng code") and e) for simplicity (one mechanism instead of two as now)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: nice to see the calculations for sure; let me add though that this draft is still not a business plan
diana_coman: asciilifeform: since 1 IP per rack anyway, I don't quite see the sense in keeping this all the time separate and then pushed in as an add-on etc. I'd calculate the Te to include IPs enough for a full rack and that's it; sure, additional IPs are additional and then naturally add-ons but that's separate anyway.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: why mandate a specific hash function (esp given that there isn't any clear way to base such mandate on "this is best hashing")?
diana_coman: wow, nice work bvt! I'll need to re-read it a few times though.
BingoBoingo omitted from the notes post that I did during the closing chit chat bring up that "folks from my part of the US have a reputation for naivety, to the point some go so far as to call us rubes" as we discussed the insanity of common law systems.
trinque: mp_en_viaje and billymg, thanks for the offers! I just got in from a vacation, so I'll need to attend to things a while before another. but would love to!
BingoBoingo: There's a few pictures for the looking too
BingoBoingo: I felt less tension and stress every time I racked and unracked a 1U server solo versus any time I touched the Rockchip plant. I trust his new layout is better based on the picture and his experience being frustrated with the pilot plant, but once it fills... I suspect asciilifeform suffers from the same disease I do where I've consistently failed most of my life to assign value to my time and taken what was offered from the menu.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 23:28:17 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The actual physical machine aspect and the potential frustrations involved in the detailed fingerwork of handling RK drives and cables, suggests a price floor may be in order.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: you read my mind, was thinking it could serve as a lord's retreat spot. trinque or anyone else in l1 would certainly be welcome
billymg: it's all a huge departure from show up at office terminal, collect bezzle -- so i'm expecting a learning curve
mp_en_viaje: hey trinque, you feel like taking the tiny concert goer over to cr for a coupla weeks ? you pick up your own airfare ima cover your stay with the fellow.
mp_en_viaje: do you intend to continue using it as a bnb sorta thing ?
billymg: thanks, yeah it's a good feeling
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 23:17:09 BingoBoingo: billymg: upload your site's files an a .sql dump. Once that's done ping me and I'll breath life into it. Probably tomorrow.
mp_en_viaje: soros similarly never made a salary, and so on. past a certain size income's whenever you run into a new planetoid to accrete, not every morning with the dew.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947360 << a large part of this problem, should be prolly mentioned retrospectively, is that aquila non capit muscas / whales don't eat peanuts by the nut (even if elephants do). when i raped the "bitcoin cash" nonsense, for instance, i burned the idiots for thousands upon thousands of bitcoin at a time, as some here involved in the transfer may remember. easy to keep it net positive by frenzy feedi
mp_en_viaje: the lulziest wanna-be punk bullshit, filmed out of a $200 potato by a few retards / "custodians" / graveyard shit workers still beats the shit out of the overproduced wanna-be pop of the usgistani "i wanna fuck latina teens" wasptard lobby.
mp_en_viaje: dawg what a productive monday everyone's been having
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re 'fingerwork' -- i've dismounted the rk's for the 1u earlier built for transport to piz , and they will live in a 'DIN' 2u subrack. so no moar finger gymnastics.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform-rk hosting is a 'turn-key' product, incl. gentooism, maintenance, debuggery as-req'd, etc
BingoBoingo: raspberries are a lower end product
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd like to keep prices 'as low as possible, but not lower'. heathendom offers much lower, theoretically, prices, than what is seen in this prospectus . and not erryone agrees ' asciilifeform's hands worth added 50/mo ', so keeping the greed to a min.
BingoBoingo: Even with the lessons learned. Drives die, etc. 3 year depreciation may make sense for a dulap, but on a rockchip even with forced air...We had a Rockchip die
asciilifeform: a 256G 'dulap' potentially could house ~128 users at similar ram apportionment (but only 8 if each were to be allotted 4 cores as present in rk.)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The actual physical machine aspect and the potential frustrations involved in the detailed fingerwork of handling RK drives and cables, suggests a price floor may be in order.
BingoBoingo: billymg: upload your site's files an a .sql dump. Once that's done ping me and I'll breath life into it. Probably tomorrow.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my other intention is to demonstrate that i can actually run a satisfactory ( to the standard of mp & co ) rack.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my intention is to fully supply the needs of l1, in a sustainable scheme, prior to any mega-expansions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma stfu tho until mp has chance to comment, it seems likely that i made a coarse error of pilotage somewhere.
asciilifeform: ^ a mechanized price estimator is included .
asciilifeform: billymg: i've a rack, and about to post very pedantic analysis. so i dun need temp host, but ty.