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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and that not a single line of code ever written, from babbage to today, can be used as is - or even with mild combing. <<< all the skills needed to drive carriages, honed at the significant expense of sweat and often blood by the original wells fargo corporation
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform try again tomorro!
mircea_popescu: plus, all sorts of special interest groups will be infairly umpacted or something.
mircea_popescu: <bounce> which requires having something to say, an idea of where we are and where we should be going, organise how we're going to get there <<< also don't neglect the ever essential part that someone somewhere may call you a cult leader!
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> see, people go "o, anything obama does you hate him for it" <<
mircea_popescu: that'd be my fucking point, innit.
mircea_popescu: well ?!
mircea_popescu: bounce kinda the irony of the situation.
mircea_popescu: are you fucking kidding me or what ?1
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dude. her fuhrer had people do a) rocketry. b) airplanes powered by hydrazine ; c) rommel in africa looking for the holy grail
mircea_popescu: bounce duh. yes, to have leadership one requires leadership.
mircea_popescu: from the chinese first of all.
mircea_popescu: he could again borrow as much as he could possibly spend.
mircea_popescu: if the obola was out there, "by the end of this decade we will have actually functional computers, this shit is ridiculous"
mircea_popescu: it'd definitely fix the us problem, which is a purely credibility problem.
mircea_popescu: to say "by the end of the decade - man on moon" is substantially different from "hey, we're spending some moneys on some things"
mircea_popescu: the motherfucking point of leadership is to provide... leadership. wow!
mircea_popescu: adding columns of numbers is great for accountants.
mircea_popescu: if you ask the us, it does "plenty of investment" today too.
mircea_popescu: not my point, the investmentr
mircea_popescu: these may be arguments, maybe, but they're not arguments for your side here.
mircea_popescu: well ?
mircea_popescu: ww1, the war notoriously named by gallup poll ?
mircea_popescu: seems an argument for me.
mircea_popescu: well how is this an argument for oyu ?
mircea_popescu: war on alcohol, right ?
mircea_popescu: what was the public comitment at the time of tesla ?
mircea_popescu: go on
mircea_popescu: 's call him tesla.
mircea_popescu: ok. let
mircea_popescu: western world has nobdy capable of comitment today
mircea_popescu: that "stalin comitted" point is fucking important
mircea_popescu: out of a million slaughtered, lanky, blonde russian kids.
mircea_popescu: on the contrary. the way it worked was that the germans attacked, stalin commited, and a zhukov emerged.
mircea_popescu: more importantly : the war didn't work like, one day there was a zhukov, and he went hey, what if we had the germans attack us, so they i could be really cool ?
mircea_popescu: the job of having been zhukov does decompose.
mircea_popescu: because being zhukov is post facto
mircea_popescu: but we're not discussing the job of being zhukov
mircea_popescu: so... everything except the problem at hand ?
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: let's try the great patriotic war, maybe that's a better knob. so... is that also a "doesn't decompose" sort of task ?
mircea_popescu: something's not getting through here./
mircea_popescu: who's to stop you.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you just forget about it, hit the bottle, and then write a proper fucking thing ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, suppose your job for the next ten years, and you know this, now, is to read 29 different turds and report.
mircea_popescu: the only reason it even exists atm is because nobody's forcing anyone to read it.
mircea_popescu: no it won't. how long do you think people can spend reading shitty c/c++ tcp/ip implementations before they give up their idiocy like the plague ?
mircea_popescu: anything as long as it's not throwing more pigs around.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: that it flies.
mircea_popescu: it provides good fucking reasons for people to come up with solutions, and right now.
mircea_popescu: oya.
mircea_popescu: this is what government does : it provides a base. it doesn't provide solutions
mircea_popescu: people start fucking listening to people who have better solutions.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand the network effects. once the entire fucking country is engrossed in throwing chattel around,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly.
mircea_popescu: o no ? how do you know that ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that understanding is built on reports.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller is the watchdog of democracy over here.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes.
mircea_popescu: it's how you write chinese literature.
mircea_popescu: you understand this ? anecdotic agreement by wizard x with wizard y is not how you fly to the moon.
mircea_popescu: FIRST reviewed.
mircea_popescu: it has to be reviewed.
mircea_popescu: how do you think my intel works ?
mircea_popescu: oyes.
mircea_popescu: how many people ?
mircea_popescu: "i want a complete report on every tcp/ip implementation out there. by hand. line by line comparison of all versions ever made"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o yes it does. let's take the smallest part of it.
mircea_popescu: so does this.
mircea_popescu: that is the royal superbity.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, that's why the entire "press" derped and ocasionally still derps about kennedy = us royalty. becauise that guy was the last us president to go "fuck you, do something useful with your time"
mircea_popescu: my words! they has been taken out of context! and given unforeseen boners!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ask any virgin.
mircea_popescu: before it's done it can't be done.
mircea_popescu: fucking kennedy. once it's done it's trivial.
mircea_popescu: do you know why ?
mircea_popescu: yes, itis. but it didn't USE TO BE
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, know the moon painting joke ?
mircea_popescu: if they had, the soviets would still be a thing, painting the moon red
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not that dude. when they wanted to send a guy to the moon they didn't give gm "the contract"
mircea_popescu: unlike the foregoing, these ARENT rules of the fucking world.
mircea_popescu: shit, how about a war on bad software and hardware ?
mircea_popescu: fuck that shit. war on drugs, poverty, people far away that don't like us and think we're stupid...
mircea_popescu: worst house ever!
mircea_popescu: try that, see who hates you then. but no, they';ve tried "everything" : banged head on wall, sat on hot stove, kicked shin against all corners.... nothing in this house works
mircea_popescu: mysteriously, "everything" they do never includes a "we wil spend one trillion dollars to fix our software-hardware. all of it."
mircea_popescu: yes, we do. and bush too, and so on and so forth
mircea_popescu: see, people go "o, anything obama does you hate him for it"
mircea_popescu: what is this, the 80s and fucking reagan ?
mircea_popescu: since when is expensive a counterargument?
mircea_popescu: bounce last i heard, the usg was throwing money into the street because "gotta spend"
mircea_popescu: quite the contrary, such a programming paradigm is immoral.
mircea_popescu: there's no advantage to trying to hide hardware deffects in software
mircea_popescu: "some people connect to internet through brooms, or try to" ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how is this an argument lol
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves my point being that this is something you solve client side not server side.
mircea_popescu: not like browsers aren't extensible and whatnot.