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a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:52
trinque: if you've reached
the point where
the world has beaten you back
to being willing
to live in a shipping container, why live?
ben_vulpes: i believe
that you're familiar with
this?
ben_vulpes: when
the problem domains are simple,
the solution proposed appears
to work. in reality, as *tard mgmt demands more features, flexibility, reports, etc,
the complexity of maintaining and extending under
the frameworkreich becomes more and more costly, a
thing not necessarily apparent
to anyone who hasn't suffered
the saga or who doesn't
think in
terms of complexity minimization from
the get-go.
ben_vulpes: trinque: not
triggered, but definitely amused.
shinohai: We already have orbitlab up
there
trinque: phf: sure sure, just
the physical
thing without
the Rand
trinque: > plenty of room
to be 'lost' inside
phf: too libertarian for my
taste, proud people of short stature standing
tall
trinque: gonna have
to build rapture
phf: i'd live on a sub, if it had
those 1970s stage set rooms with giant windows
through which you can observe underwater marine life, but which you can also close if you're being attacked by
the establishment
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:52
trinque: if you've reached
the point where
the world has beaten you back
to being willing
to live in a shipping container, why live?
thestringpuller: so i'm using suds with python. i'm looking at
the package maintanence and
the mailing list. anyhow when an opensource project dies, can you just be like "i'm forking
this and doing it"
trinque: seems like if you're wiling
to go about 7-10kts
there are a few
mats: so, over or under
ten?
☟︎ mats: asciilifeform: I read
the
thread but didn't see a number, what did you arrive at?
mircea_popescu: course, it's always my womenz
that warmed it, might be a factor.
mats: like sitting on a freshly warm
toilet seat, with less ick factor
mats: and
then you get
to enjoy hot racking with
the crew
mircea_popescu: so you'll drink piss just so as
to not have
to listen
to
the neighbours fuck ?
mircea_popescu: fresh water, at a gallon a day per head, means if you're actually alone a deux, 4
tons just
that.
mircea_popescu: well, figure out what you eat in a year ; plus all
the
things you might want but won't eventually eat.
mircea_popescu: it pointedly does everything you openly admit you want ; and fails
to do all
the
things you want but disawov, such as "it should be a grownup for me".
mircea_popescu: which is why it's always cheaper for merchant
to cater
to old dutchess
than
to young upstart wife.
mircea_popescu: "pointedly not it", chiefly because you're
trying
the oldest
trick in
the poorfag's book, which is
to say
to NAME his
target according
to
the conventions of
trade, but
to secretly expect it
to satisfy his metaphysical expectations.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; floating apartment is not much worse for maintenance
than car.
mircea_popescu: on
the planet where
the guy he bought it from paid 15% what it cost in 2014
mircea_popescu: actually he bought a jet not a mig ; it was a few hundred not mil ; and it's not a
terribru investment.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, in common
terms
the problem is solved : 4 room floating apt can be had used in good condition for a coupla mil.
mircea_popescu: "if my answers scare you,
time
to stop asking scary questions"
mircea_popescu: but
the % varies - at
the heyday of
the empire, during
trajan, burebista's 200+
tons of gold were not enough ; centuries later, a few % of
that sufficed for an entire dynasty of paleologai
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 16:54 asciilifeform:
this begs
the question. yes, you need money. just as you need rocket
to get
to mars. but ~how much~ and what vector.
trinque: but
then, asciilifeform could gossipd from his water-tomb I'm sure, so
there's
that.
trinque: I suspect people who can't find *anyone*
to
tolerate of a sort of gabriel_laddelism, i.e. if I stay up for 48hrs on
tab cola I can rewrite gentoo portage fastrrrr
mircea_popescu: perhaps
tycho brache / keppler is
the best example of
this duality.
mircea_popescu: depends
tho, some parts of science are nonconversational. it's a mixed bag.
mircea_popescu: (1469 captain general of venetian navy, no naval experience, guy being a lawyer and orator at papal court. chose
to pretend like he knew his shit, cost venice its head eventually.)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:54 phf:
trinque: it's
techno nomad, it's a
thing. microship guy doesn't really
try
to solve same problem as orlol, it's all different people with personal interests and agendas
that don't necessarily compose into a single stereotype
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:52
trinque:
this guy's got a lab, what,
to continue
taking part in
the same world he can't stand?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in
the man's own words, "he who
thinks of death best not follow me"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:51 phf: and
the problem he was
trying
to solve is a lot closer
to what you want
to achieve, i.e. put lab on water, rather
than recreate
the lifestyle of late 6th century pirate nomads or whatever
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505518 << strangely enough, none of
the kids playing history (with
the abundance
their forefathers so imprudently assured
them) realise
that "hey,
things are linked, a boat like
this means i gotta sleep with a schmitar under pillow!"
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