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asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: ever actually been to a subway station? there's probably a man's weight of dead vermin, garbage, etc. per square meter.
ThickAsThieves: or he is a child
dub: proximity alarms are not new, seems like a reasonable effort
ThickAsThieves: dont newer terminals now have a wall between tracks and waiting area?
asciilifeform: perhaps a miniature induction heater.
asciilifeform: someone could make good money selling a means of melting a glass rod over a (recessed) screw head and then breaking it.
asciilifeform: i believe the ancient greeks used something similar, with a broken clay pot ☟︎
thestringpuller: im on a terminal, what's the abstract?
asciilifeform: you can also bury a vacuum-sealed sheet of paper.
thestringpuller: but for personal use as a medium of storage you can def bury it in your yard
thestringpuller: like a bank :P
asciilifeform: from a warehouse with 10,000 of them.
asciilifeform: a hologram that you buy, right.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: some people will put a hologram over the private key space on paper wallets to "secure" them
thestringpuller: only good as a medium of storage and not exchange
asciilifeform: anybody here get hold of a 'trezor' and pick it apart?
thestringpuller: people who own mac with OS X can go their whole lives owning the machine and not knowing there is a terminal
asciilifeform: why would anyone buy a cat-in-a-sack wallet machine ?
mircea_popescu: so nobody really has a clue what includes what and what anything said means.
asciilifeform: for anyone who doesn't know, cardano is not a wallet.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: using a geiger counter for rng?
thestringpuller: looks like the cardano will be more secure if used as a wallet than the trezor...
asciilifeform: some costing just a dollar or two. but they won't make you rich.
Bugpowder: dude has a lot of coins
asciilifeform: anybody notice how quickly the discussion of 'where the hell do you get entropy on a VPS' began and ended?
asciilifeform: 'This week a cluster of VPS that i have been using... ...has been compromised.'
asciilifeform: at some point it will be cheaper to pay a paramilitary squad to defend you than to pay the paper 'owner.'
asciilifeform: think from a different angle:
asciilifeform: know what'll put a real damper on 'housing bubble' ?
Bugpowder: that is going to put a damper on the housing buble.
Bugpowder: locked a few weeks ago at 3.875
asciilifeform: use a consumer 'security camera' xyz gimball for the turret.
mircea_popescu: to finance a "predict path of bitcoin-assets conversation" computing project
mircea_popescu: we should throw some coins in a jar
asciilifeform: no need for fancy and new maths, a consumer digital camera chipset would probably suffice.
benkay: asciilifeform: but on a turret and with some ml
benkay: constructs a 3d model of its environment and self trains to put a bolt through any xyz triple
benkay: mircea_popescu: how about a robo-crossbow?
the20year: I'm sure a good deal of it was in the stutenland and danzid corridor
the20year: As long as it's a growable season
ThickAsThieves: This guy understands there's a fee to move shares to Havelock, but not to move shares out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3936404#msg3936404
Bugpowder: I'm sure new york is a mess too
mircea_popescu: as in, any case over a 80yo alleged "theft" is thrown out of court just like that
Bugpowder: my real estate has a nice deed record
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you probably need an actual lawyer to tell you what a joke that is.
Bugpowder: "What's more, this absence of a paper trail speaks to criminal intent. If whoever took or exchanged the coins thought he was doing no wrong, we would expect to see some sort of documentation reflecting the transaction, especially considering how carefully and methodically the Mint accounted for the '33 Double Eagles."
pigeons: if you fear this is an internet rumor go to the physical archives of a library
ozbot: Five signs your client may be running a Ponzi scheme – Quartz
Bugpowder: http://qz.com/157108/five-signs-your-client-may-be-running-a-ponzi-scheme/
asciilifeform: re: eagle coins: if i'm found with 'toyota' and no titles, receipts, etc. and a dealership whined about being short of exactly one such...
Bugpowder: Your hedge fund client is using a retail checking account. Rather than use a business bank account, Madoff’s hedge fund put billions of dollars from thousands of investors into a retail account, and didn’t bother to segregate it with sub-accounts. His accounts “exhibited, on their face, a ‘glaring absence of securities activity.’”
benkay: might engender a liquid market
pigeons: there was a good espidoe of boondocks the grandpa told the judge, "didnt obama legalize weed?"
mircea_popescu: found a few golden eagles
mircea_popescu: anyway, was a case recently, some lawyer died and his fambly opened a box
mircea_popescu: find out the % of people whose residence is based on a wikipedia page.
mircea_popescu: making it a bigger problem whcih is more worthy of attention so more fellows can be hired.
pigeons: but eeproms from the 80s will have bitrotted a bit
asciilifeform: 'spy-coins' shop would make a spiffy honeypot
nubbins`: almost bought a 25 when they were selling for ~26-27 earlier this year
Bugpowder: and a 10BTC silver
Bugpowder: a 2011 25
nubbins`: a few assorted silvers
asciilifeform: it's very easy - wanna open a bank safe box? there'll be a polizei watching, removing anything shiny and yellow, 'at fair market price.'
nubbins`: who said they had a roll of cas coins?
nubbins`: <benkay> a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right?
Bugpowder: happened to one person in the course of a criminal investigation.
nubbins`: is there any actual record of someone purchasing freshly-minted coins from a pool?
asciilifeform: sd card (or rolled up printout) would be gentler on the rectum, i imagine, than a coin.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: No because I would be that guy who made a typo. Casascius is more competent than I in that regard
asciilifeform: forging a hologram isn't exactly building a thermonuke
mircea_popescu: the20year if he really wants to do it, south africa is probably a better place.
Bugpowder: I've got a roll of 50 in a safe deposit box.
mircea_popescu: <Bugpowder> nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news. << ridiculous, isn't it.
thestringpuller: i guess I have a piece of history on my desk
Bugpowder: nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news.
mircea_popescu: well a real us guy, at any rate.
Bugpowder: can't even get you a nice condo in LA
Bugpowder: A million goes a long way in utah
benkay: a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right?
Bugpowder: His garage does not look like the garage of a millionaire
Bugpowder: its a lot easier to sell $80M worth of BTC than 80M worth of pizza from your house.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the guy was a millionaire before btc.
nubbins`: minus living expenses, not sure if he held a day job
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder that's misrepresenting the thing. he'd have made 10 simply selling a pizza.
Bugpowder: I have a bunch
mircea_popescu: take it as a publicity stunt, like getting a chick with a nice rack and a mean streak to stir the forum pot
benkay: had to reprimand someone giving out printed wallets at a local btc event.
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone took it for more than that. caldwell was making a few cents here and there with it, but not worth his time
mircea_popescu: benkay honestly, it was a reasonably nice way to get people introduced to btc, back in 2011.
dexX7: same here.. insert coin A, get unrealted coin B out
nubbins`: dexX7: seems like a roundabout way of laundering. why not just send the raw btc? :P
Bugpowder: Coinbase got a $25M Series B
dexX7: the line was interesting imho: "If he doesn’t verify or have a way of knowing whether the owner of the bitcoins is the same person he’s sending the coins to, that’s a problem ..."
nubbins`: actually not a bad gift idea
ozbot: Casascius Physical Bitcoins Cracked at Defcon - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog
nubbins`: what can i say, i'm a sucker for pretty metal
nubbins`: dexX7: there's actually a market for reeeemed once
nubbins`: the20year: well there's a security hologram
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 32207763.4100 USD and would take the last price down to 43.5700 USD, resulting in an average price of 322.0776 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 5.2789 seconds