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PeterL: nevermind, was supposed
to be joke
PeterL: protons differ,
that is how NMR/MRI works
mircea_popescu: obviously, if you'e looking at a picture of snatch, catlols etc, best
to scroll
through. if you are
trying
to decide if
there is or is not a nuclear base
there ; a cancer cell
there, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am willing
to state
that
the reason nobody discovered anything interesting since
the 90s or so is because
they haven't.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm using
that as a
thinking support. which i usually am.
mircea_popescu: PeterL depends man. if i am involved in a process of
trying
to understand something, which may
take many hours
to many months,
that i am saved five minutes for a
typing out is not necessarily useful.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you wilfully ignore
the benefit
this exercise has for
thinking.
PeterL: its like
trying
to see a picture by looking at
the bit values, works better if you have a program draw it out for you
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fu you're not
to speak for humans! PeterL sure, and most people only write html by clicking on buttons. but i like
to
type my shit out.
PeterL: I only use it by drawing
the structure and having it generate
the SMILES, which can be, E.G. pasted into another program
mircea_popescu: but mind, i wasn't seriously proposing
this be used ; just ad-hoc showing
that it can be.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 14:34 mircea_popescu: i'm even amenable
to saying ::oc/C-COH-C::
mircea_popescu: i'd rather use hoare - hor if forced
to do something with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yes but it drives stupidity such as chomsky's rank nonsense about "what is gramatical". if you recall
that recently linked essay.
mircea_popescu: how do i humorously say "male whore" as in, "curv", which is
the never-seen but PERFECTLY GRAMMATICAL masculine of curva, whore ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. fucking javascript of a language if i ever saw one,
this english
thing. how do you people live ?
mircea_popescu: part of
the problem is obviously
that english is a language spoken by idiots, and it shows. but
this isn't a large part and certainly not
the largest part - i was doing
the same
thing in romanian. arguably much worse - people don't realise romanian is ALSO mostly spoken by idiots.
mircea_popescu: trinque anyway,
trilema is a foremost example of "i have my set of defintions and you likely don't know what
they are ; nor will likely figure it out
through a whole article - shit's
too fine."
mircea_popescu: i
think we're sitting on a poorly understood oilpatch.
mircea_popescu: which is by itself an achievement which dwarfs
the accomplishments of
the entire current genewration of anthropologists and kinda
takes my breath away.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know ? it's actuallty much huger
than originally realised ; v is actually a model of knowledge in
the general sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my shirt was weaved out of virgin
tears
tho!
mircea_popescu: (cycle kind 1 : when your definitions can be forced into a cycle by changing contexts ; cycle kind 2 : when your definitions can be forced into a cycle by changing spot in
time)
mircea_popescu: is not a
thing, no matter what it pretends), but it must have no cycles in it.
mircea_popescu: trinque
the
thing is
that you're perfectly allowed
to use your own, consistent definitions, even if
they may contradict "the common sense" ; provided
that a)
they are consistent ~and stable enough so as not
to change by context~ and b) you're capable of expliciting
them on request and
this will not contradict previous construction. ie - you may have any graph you wish (chiefly because anyone does anyway, "community consensus"
trinque: worth probably also giving n00bs
the holy
truth beating and leaving redefining english
to shakespeare
trinque: nothing wrong with
that; I was saying
the same yesterday
shinohai: Kind of imagined you meant plural of viruses
there.
☟︎ trinque: there's a pragmatic distinction here between "this is a statement of holy
truth" and "this shovel is currently doubling as guillotine in a pinch"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 15:43 phf: so i push back on
the guy, rme says "let's change subject", within minutes guy goes "it's late here i gotta go
to sleep"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hey,
they keep
thinking "mp has one suit", so why not.
mircea_popescu: check out all
the unexpected
trouble one can stir up out of entirely left field dao.
mircea_popescu: the latter is how ambitious if incompetent lawyers lose 90% of
the cases
they lose.
mircea_popescu: it's one
thing
to do
this like i do it on
trilema ; but it's another
to do it in
the face of contention.
mircea_popescu: which is culpable, seeing how
the entire argument
there hinged on
the definition of number 2.
mircea_popescu: well no, but your assumption
that you making a general statement will be
taken as made rather
than modified ad-hoc is not only unwarranted, but actually contrary
to your declared preference.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm not
the one sprouting spurious absolutes, which is why i'm not
the one with
this problem. what picture.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 15:38 asciilifeform:
trinque: fact remains, if you
think i'm gonna run a binary, ANYONE's binary, for whatever reason, yer smoking dope.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in dispute is not
the ownership part, but
the niche part. it's not a niche!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 15:48 phf: well,
they don't realize anything changed. decade ago a newbie was younger version of you,
today with some chance a newbie might still be a younger version of you, but much more likely it's a person who never knew you had
to wash hands after bathroom
there purely
to
turn everything
that you've built
to shit
mircea_popescu: well
then most of
them will be "tivo software owns
tivo niche"
trinque: runs great on wine
too; I ran it
there longer
than on winderz
mircea_popescu: for as long as
this "music library"
thing was a
thing, winamp was
the
thing for it.
phf: asciilifeform: you can get winamps of some vintage
that still run on recent windows machines
mircea_popescu: one of my secret lulz, for all
the extra holes apple gets in here, nobody goes "stfu winamp"
mircea_popescu: the space between not getting laid and noticing you're not getting laid is short.
the space from
the noticing
to
the fixing however...
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 15:43 asciilifeform: i dun get why more folks won't declare
total war.
phf: there was a pleasant notion of ownership with xmms, your playlist becomes an organic
thing with a state, with most listened artists at
the
top, sequences organically created
that align with your personal feel for harmony, etc. without bringing
that whole aspy ocd file management into
the equation. can't really do it with cli.
phf: "oh your carefully annotated rip of late 80s punk
tape of misc artists is all different artists. let me helpfully spawn a folder per
track for you. a cover art scan? kek!"
phf: it's kind of funny
that xmms got "replaced" with various itunes clones. i had at various points a very large partially pirated, partially salvaged, partially ripped collection of music and i'm convinced
that
there's nothing better
than an fs level folder structure for managing music.
phf: also culture was gutted. it was acceptable
to be an asshole a decade ago, now flaming someone on irc is equivalent of voting for
trump.
phf: well,
they don't realize anything changed. decade ago a newbie was younger version of you,
today with some chance a newbie might still be a younger version of you, but much more likely it's a person who never knew you had
to wash hands after bathroom
there purely
to
turn everything
that you've built
to shit
☟︎