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mircea_popescu: hence the leaves metaphor.
mircea_popescu: oh, i know.
mircea_popescu: yes, i'm aware, we're all alive, and that means periodically we evacuate. faecal matter, of all things. now tell me again why there's shit in the soup ?!
mircea_popescu: phf mocky has the exact same excuse.
mircea_popescu: seems quite likely.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, but why.
mircea_popescu: producing http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: it is, after all, how washington dc scam peddles its sad oils, isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, seems to me evident that the ~only way something like that could have worked was as monastic order, ie, harem, not as "company" ie "nuclear family" takeoff. "prove to us you can use this compiler for anything and you can move at franz hq and hang out with us / party with the hussies."
mircea_popescu: cuz never thought about it.
mircea_popescu: phf it's clearly a family arrangement. what, they never read saussure ? what happened to the olde "give us a woman from your house" ?
mircea_popescu: (i know from experience, btw. i am probably the one here who has physically punished most ic. and yes i do mean with wooden sticks. and axes and machetes and so on.)
mircea_popescu: what's hiding behind that straightforward scotsman ?
mircea_popescu: "programming computers" also doesn't work "in a straightforward way". man with wooden stick gets nowhere.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: by the way, you know the anglo-dutch war lulz ? how the respective nations (if we can call england that) procured their needed warships ?
mircea_popescu: ships were rented&insured.
mircea_popescu: nobody bought ships. never.
mircea_popescu: aw.
mircea_popescu: and this sort of sheer lunacy of misexpression, coupled with shocking, indefensible idiocies like ~a magic number~ (really, how the fuck was it obtained, anything OTHER than the usual http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-07#1563435 prolonged into adulthood by that all-powerful pill of neoteny, "hurr durr i am an engineer, aka professional, aka no more pressure to mature" ?) is exactly what composes the metaphorical baseball bat i s ☝︎
mircea_popescu: e~ the ships return ?
mircea_popescu: phf specifically, i do not believe "they know that usually they can't get it upfront, because nobody expects to pay for software" is at all related. rather, "they know it makes no sense to get before-the-shipping money". because think in terms of those who invented commerce, to wit http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/#selection-69.178-69.401 : what the fuck sense does it make for he to pay you ~befor
mircea_popescu: suppose instead of http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-07-16.log.html#t15:27:14 i "sat down" with mocky to see "how can he pay me 100 bitcoin through other means", because "nobody expects to pay for management". something like that ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf and the batshit insane situation of "x per y" doesn't strike as altogether broken ?
mircea_popescu: if she really were trying to do you the service she pretends rather than disservice, she'd be holding a fucking rag.
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't credit a maid with a baseball bat in hand that she's "trying to dust the porcelain" and all the shattered fragments about are "accidents", would you ?
mircea_popescu: well, there's ways to try and fail, and there's ways to not even try at all (and still fail, of course). it seems to me (and maybe i misunderstand) that their efforts are of the latter. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf the principal objection is that team of engineers and designers had no apparent fucking inkling that yes, a price structure is something to design.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the "fatted calf" that the inept father cut was fucking stolen, and if i sat in judgement over the matter he'd sure as dingleberries hang for it.
mircea_popescu: does that help ?
mircea_popescu: it's this-or-that, either steal from the worthy to "fix" the unworthy, or else squeeze the unworthy to empower the worthy.
mircea_popescu: or else to chain the retards to a pole and have them spin it under the whip until they day, to give the one or two kids worth the hassle electricity so they can be online.
mircea_popescu: THEN bingoboingo would have the following dilemma before him : either tax the one or two products in that tree dozen that are actually smarter than him even, so with the proceeds to buy crutches and prosthetics for the half dozen mongoloids necessarily included by mother nature in the discount three dozen, so as to vaguely push them into a cvasi-semblance of normalcy
mircea_popescu: in his lordship's wake
mircea_popescu: specifically : if say BingoBoingo decided to buy himself a farm in that republica oriental ; and if on that farm other than the venezuelana an' the peruana he added a columbiana and whatever else ; and if those produced him over some years a good three dozen offspring, good heifers that they were ; and if his sperm was so utterly macho that all the x'n commited suicide on the spurt out of sheer shame leaving nothing but boys
mircea_popescu: and to take this discussion on the proper level of generalisation : there's a very strict difference between sanity and idiocy, illustrated best by the http://trilema.com/2018/muma-lui-stefan-cel-mare/#selection-217.0-217.83 vs Luke 15:11-32 in the faux xtian bullshit.
mircea_popescu: winner takes all.
mircea_popescu: phf you see my point ?
mircea_popescu: "oh, evidently our model doesn't work, so let's make it % rather than absolute". "yes fuckwit, because these aren't tools, and their use need no justification. they're just toys, for you to play with, oh don't use the scalpel, use the tweezer like thing, looks like this is more of a pull together than a cut apart thingee". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so no, under no possible lens whatsoever is the "model" anything but the shoddy attempt by the millitantly ignorant to use their steelworking tools & expertise to do "genetic engineering" with.
mircea_popescu: xistence altogether. http://trilema.com/2013/youre-the-guy-who-wasnt-good-enough-to-sling-dope/#selection-73.121-73.177 and all that.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1835829 << no but consider. 1) the guy who makes the least useful (as measured by -- usage) end product has to pay the LEAST in royalties. why ? 2) the guy who makes the most useful end product has to pay the most. why the fuck ? any correct model will have wta, the one guy who owes you most in "royalties" pays 0 because as per the hobbyst discussion etc, he's the guy actually driving your e ☝︎
mircea_popescu: esthlos whats a "modle" ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: similar how ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for which reason i don't think we're to take lightly the author.
mircea_popescu: y" is not distinguishable from the african monkeys it spent millenia distinguishing itself from, only to eventually succumb. no more, and nothing else.
mircea_popescu: not butchering the forefathers' work, specifically NOT doing inane miseries like http://trilema.com/2016/there-has-not-yet-been-seen-a-simple-thing-even-if-were-drowning-in-simple-people/ ; or like bowdler's "work" ; or like ~TRANSLATING THE SCRIPTURES~ is an important, perhaps the principal measurement of a culture. the fact that dante's work "is no longer relevant to italian society today" simply means "italian society toda
mircea_popescu: and the author thereby dies.
mircea_popescu: but still, i think the proper view of the matter is in the vein of how romans regarded testaments. because really, every published anything's a will.
mircea_popescu: and so if some guy publishes some piece of software saying "and this is to be used on sundays only", the proper decision before the republican is "do i use it on sundays or do i not use it at all ?". none of this bars discussion, "what the fuck is wrong with you, reiser ?!" nor in extremis "fu, i'll use it when i use it", nor even "in my considered opinion your sunday's my wednesday" reinterpetation.
mircea_popescu: the codas antecessors put on things are not to be ignored wholesale. yes if those antecessors are, esentially, the http://trilema.com/2011/oricine-poate-sa/ notion of "mula", ie indistinct biomass, then whatever they thought they said is incapable of meaning in the first place. yet if those antecessors are actual people with actual keys, what they say is meaningful and the meaning probably important.
mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/07/17/discriminatory-code-sharing/ << i'd say this is broadly correct ; though i somewhat disagree with both ave1's take (as in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835508 ) as well as diana_coman implict take here ( say in "hat they decide to do with it, if anything, is of course their own call entirely." ) in the following limited sense : ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: if the https://www.googletagmanager.com/gtag/js? / http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 fingerprints all over didn't give it away. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835632 << and by "the uruguayos" we mean the ustard 5th column, of course. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: sovietism A LOT more adaptable, adapted self right into fucking grave, with a whole lotta "spreading works"
mircea_popescu: i always thought the 80s verbiage about "capitalism more adaptable" was a fucking riot.
mircea_popescu: soviet has its own sort of logic.
mircea_popescu: so it can be stolen "by the whole people".
mircea_popescu: so after 6 months of production the decision was taken not to put anything in anymore.
mircea_popescu: trinque to be genuine soviet, it was supposed to have been stolen @factory.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835631 << indeed! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: alright then.
mircea_popescu: or vice-versa, "here's your free plushie for throwing things at geese well, and a 0.03 bill for keeping the lights on"
mircea_popescu: it's not done irl very much because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835457 ; but if i go to the arcade i'd much prefer an arcade where "you owe us 0.03 cents for electricity + roof ; and 1 dollar because you suck at throwing these damned darts" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not atm.
mircea_popescu: now ~a portion of that~ can very well be kicked back to client authors, if nothing else to cover the significant effort of eg a complete reskining. which'd give the player the benefit of "do i want to play this game looking like high fantasy or scandalous nudity"
mircea_popescu: h where "your results pay for your ineptitude using the platform as well as my costs providing it".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835611 << no ; the idea is that there will be separation between objective costs of running (passed on to the client in the shape of food necessities to keep character alive -- starve it long enough and it dies) and the implicitly risky nature of euloran activity. i don't want to get into detail here, but i believe it's the correct approach, allocation, rather than trying a pauschal approac ☝︎
mircea_popescu: afaik this was 100% your notion.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well i suppose this is basically the thing here -- a relaxation allowing specified mechanisms for a specified sort of "work in confidence" to still count.
mircea_popescu: perhaps even on the contrary.
mircea_popescu: right. because code being open does not mean automatically anything about it being read, at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, which is why the ~code author's option~. obviously one's well advised to think about things.
mircea_popescu: the fact that asciilifeform hasn't to date read the (published) eulora client source doesn't cost ~ asciilifeform ~ anything. it costs minigame something, presumably.
mircea_popescu: anyways, yes, i guess there's that, yes. but i mean whom does it cost ? the people owning the code, not you.
mircea_popescu: lol i misread, "it costs for instance that you don't want to travel with laptop."
mircea_popescu: you mean me or impersonal you ?
mircea_popescu: uh ?!
mircea_popescu: what does it cost ?
mircea_popescu: hanbot "and this portion of whale liver is ~really~ krill #5460985409865" "what is here meant by really ?"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835608 << speaking of diana_coman do you recall where the whole food / pay for server thing was announced ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: in the end, all living things are only as alive as their food filtering allows.
mircea_popescu: seems unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: hanbot fine, but this is the dilemma : either being in l1 is practically meaningless, in which case nobody cares if they're in or out ; or else l1 is practically meaningful, in which case everybody cares whether they're in or out and consequently some might care to be in just to be in, to assuage the self-knoweldge of inadequacy.
mircea_popescu: "the house is either dirty or clean ; if dirty, it gets cleanned ; if clean, we watc htv". sure. but what's discussed here is the mechanisms of cleanning, specifically, not the general broad theory of housekeep.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this is the avenue of that!
mircea_popescu: there IS such a thing as "you're too fucking stupid and unread to participate in THIS class. go take remedial deheadshittery 101."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-17#1835417 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i believe ; but it's a heuristic past its use by date.
mircea_popescu: basically you read words and expect they mean imperial meanings. but they fucking don't.
mircea_popescu: cuz there's nothing there.
mircea_popescu: it IS.
mircea_popescu: even windows has terminal ; even there something like hash file exists.
mircea_popescu: if it operates but poorly i suppose the argument could be brought mocky's good reputation is being stained ; however it's so damned easy to check.
mircea_popescu: if it operates mocky gets the credit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody cares ABOUT THAT.
mircea_popescu: i mean... ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose at the furthermost it could result in 1. luser installing that ; 2. luser being displeased with shitclient performance ; 3. luser whining at mocky ; 4. mocky asking him to check his binary hash.
mircea_popescu: and this results in ?