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the20year1: because your bank realized they can make money on it....they don't buy it for retail, nor do they hold it as a reserve
the20year1: Seemed like a good choice :D
nubbins`: Vexual: rare earth coins are generally a bad investment.
nubbins`: i mean, shit, pull it out a few different ways. cash, even.
nubbins`: i mean, the whole silver/gold stacking thing is a bit fucking silly
KRS1: nubbins`: if you find a site that does decent deals with in stock metals let me know
nubbins`: as far as spot-value bullion coins go, there are really only a handful in both silver and gold
nubbins`: they put in an order with their supplier once a week or whatever
nubbins`: people don't realize that a lot of these places don't really have stock on-hand waiting to ship
KRS1: i think coins are lower weight..but at the end of the day..it doesnt matter if its a dildo.
Duffer1: what's the point of a coin over a bar then?
nubbins`: it was a funny piece. odd weight, nice design, low mintage, very high purity (99999!)
nubbins`: if you were wondering, being in the masters club mostly just means you get a ton of junk mail
nubbins`: i went on a bit of a coin binge a few months ago
mircea_popescu: seems to me 9.983 mn in gold would be a wee bit more than that coin's weight
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nubbins`: find me a coin that a collector would pay $17,000 over spot for, y'know?
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nubbins`: so it's really a bit of a leap of faith either way
mircea_popescu: why would one ever do such a swap ?
nubbins`: some forum guy registered sept 2013 with 0 trust wants to do a coin-for-coin trade with me
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 1 hour, 37 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> Just remembet I take a break as soon as hockey coems on
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mircea_popescu: talk to pankkake, i think they give them a copy with their passport.
Duffer1: what a dick
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Times-Bowdler.png for perpetual shame&damnation
mircea_popescu: sophocles is perhaps a little hermetic if you don't understand the context
Duffer1: oh and diary of a woman of pleasure was nice ^.^
benkay: just a reference to the harvard classics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Classics)
mircea_popescu: plenty of good ideas, but you're telling me some people live inside a fake-gravity spinning straw ? it's ridiculous.
diametric: but every time i watch a scifi where some motherfucker hacks a system like he's playing a puzzle game
diametric: yeah, thats a problem. fantasy has its own internal consistency, you know, magic. you can suspend your disbelief easier.
mircea_popescu: moreover, i understand a lot more science than whatever rules fantasy.
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 notrly. they don't do nearly enough sex to make the cut as a rule.
diametric: Duffer1: clones, in the picture there are a total of 7 3d printers
Duffer1: MP do you have a few favorites?
KRS1: how does one ipo over the ripple protocol..is there such a thing?
mircea_popescu: fantasy is pulp that knows it's pulp. sci-fi is pulp with a pretense. i never like that much.
Duffer1: i've yet to see a sci-fi mmo i've liked
mircea_popescu: meanwhile here's a sort-of shy naked chick http://24.media.tumblr.com/6b8874233d3f60184b9132024b1ceaf0/tumblr_my5i3fF6Ji1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg
Duffer1: i 'played' eve for a few hours, i never got the impression i was 'playing' anything, more like watching eve
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 the main town is pretty much a constant spam of "send us monez we send back monez"
mircea_popescu: im sure it'll jujst be a website.
ozbot: ANN: Freesociety.com will sell land for bitcoins in a government-free zone
Duffer1: last i saw of him was a post about his indecision regarding ciphertrade
kakobrekla: why do i have a feeling this would reqire lots of diy
pankkake: made a small hole on the sheets
pankkake: when I was a child, one exploded, and it started a fire on my bed
pankkake: I have a vacuum tube amplifier, I think it's going to explode eventually
b0n1: hey guys! I remember there will be a bitcoin conference in romania beginning for 2014, right?
the20year: Anyone want to take a look at this next revision of the RentalStarter biz plan?
mircea_popescu: given the nature of hashing these can only be extrapolated into a hash estimate, which may vary arbitrarily much from the real value
mircea_popescu: decimation the argument could be brought that all loss of a bitcoin wallet is intentional.
Neil: There's a much faster way that uses no logs or bignums...
Neil: "Here's a fast way to calculate bitcoin difficulty" folllowed by lots of spaghetti from Amir.
decimation: Indeed, the risks are obviously much greater for a btc wallet
KRS1: yeah i dig it but...its not a bitcoin wallet.
Neil: The difficulty is known at the block prior to the block with the new difficulty (it's a 2015 block window). So theoretically bets in the period of the 2016th block should be refunded.
mircea_popescu: maybe some dork manages to send a donation bet for whatever, 5k btc
mircea_popescu: srsly, if there's a sudden gulp and it looks like no have the upper hand...
Neil: I give it 60% chance of getting to 1690. The leeches will come in in about 1 week (on either side) when the outcome will be clear, even to scrape a 2%
mircea_popescu: i knew that'd turn into a challenge :D
Neil: KRS1: Only in a controlled and verified env I suspect.
KRS1: there is a new offering from the U.K. for that
Neil: Wouldn't be surprised to see 2bn difficulty bet could get to 1500 total. Would that be a record?
KRS1: is it even possible to provide wallet insurance and successfully make a profit?
mircea_popescu: yes well just because we found a black swan is no reason to go looking for black lions.
mircea_popescu: or a dumbass and his website, or a website and its dumbass or however this works.
mircea_popescu: no it's not. it's a website and a dumbass.
KRS1: i have no idea how you can insure a bitcoin wallet.
mircea_popescu: KRS1 "yet another tranny thinking he's a woman / guy with dreamweaver thinking he's a coder / guy with a student loan thinking he's a financier making some dumbass social platform tht won't go anywhere and he won't stop talking about"
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/712/bitcoin-difficulty-over-5-6b-before-april/ << these'd look a lot better seeded the other way lol
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in a functioning economy he gets it just in time to mine 10.98x btc off it
ThickAsThieves: that's a nextgen band name
decimation: yes. I ordered a "2nd batch" neptune for ~11 btc and I was wondering about the probability it would actually arrive and work would be
decimation: hi. I'm a noob to the channel, but I note the conversation shifted to mining - and I was wondering if anyone had experience with kncminer stuff?
Apocalyptic: "A miner would notice he got a block" // how so ?
Neil: But then what would they be paying miners with? A miner would notice he got a block and the pool didn't claim it, at some point.
mircea_popescu: no but they just broadcast the block off a new ip each time
mircea_popescu: they could just solve each block off a different ip.
ThickAsThieves: Neil, I'm sure there's a way they could do it
mircea_popescu: another way of saying "concern trolling on a planetary scale"
ThickAsThieves: After all the reddit scare, I wonder if the pool simply set up a way to anonymize some of its hashing
mircea_popescu: Neil that gaming theory has the barb that it workls in reality, not in people's imagination. there's a huge premium on pissing off the right crowd of people.
mircea_popescu: that's a point i guess.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it was over 12 but under a full day
ThickAsThieves: but now, ghash.io is a big player
mircea_popescu: if there's a 2 day fork say the no people will make out like bandits.
ThickAsThieves: basically betting that there's a fork or something
Neil: True. A guy betting Yes just gets a crumb :)
mircea_popescu: and let me point out to you that originally nobody thought there's a chance in hell it reaches 2bn by feb.
mircea_popescu: Neil i think our 50:1 bs is misstating the point. a guy betting no only gets 4x his btc
Neil: These difficulty bets should have a slightly larger window of closing to resolution than 5 days IMO. It tends to be too obvious then. At least a full cycle (10-12 days) should be the gap.
Neil: Well, baggsied that as a new proposition, and funded it :)
Neil: I track it in a s/s of my own; do my own thing :)
mircea_popescu: but hash rate is "how many times per second did we fail to solve a specified problem"
Neil: There is of course quite wild variance, which is where a modicum of skill comes in, but not much
mircea_popescu: instantaneous hash rate is a myth tho
b0n1: maybe 25% is a bit too much to assume but anyway, its totally risky
b0n1: with an assumption of 20% diff increase we have a break even in 97 days