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asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514252 << at one point i even had acct there, decade+ ago, it likely still exists ☝︎
asciilifeform: did mr reptilia 'get' that aston-martin in the hotel parking lot ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most of the better whores can, and do, and that's why i love them.
mircea_popescu: so what is this, you'll be sinking the ru navy as part of this project ?
asciilifeform: by that token, can go to any parking lot and 'get' jaguar, until first police car.
mircea_popescu: he "has better things to do". "do those better things buy you a tanker ?" "don't ask so many questions!"
mircea_popescu: so therefore, go, photosynthesize.
mircea_popescu: you're not a preditor and do not wish to become one.
PeterL: Somali pirates spend much less than 45 mn to get their tankers
mircea_popescu: by the time you get to loot, you get to loot like fungi do (visible but nobody to take advantage)
asciilifeform: i can understand folks who buy the subs (as described by mircea_popescu re costa rica narcos) but tanker is lunacy.
asciilifeform: which includes tanker.
asciilifeform: walmart and slow targets visible from 50km
mircea_popescu: currently, it just means "anyone can loot tankers"
mircea_popescu: the industrial world died. once this means everyone can loot walmart, everyone will
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point of "buy tanker, live on sea" is that you are exploting an early-come apocalypse.
asciilifeform: who, asked 'how we shall deal with uboats' answered, 'let's boil the atlantic'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu reminds me of the british ww1 admiral
mircea_popescu: bitch, things cost money. what is this "im of the internet and free plox" ?
mircea_popescu: there's thousands extra.
asciilifeform: iirc the crew is largely ceremonial, the thing is driven by computer
mircea_popescu: much less crew than any submarine.
mircea_popescu: not really. most tankers run on tiny crews of a dozenand a half to two dozen
asciilifeform: what's it cost to dry-dock a tanker ?
asciilifeform: and certainly not a 'one bloke operates and repairs with his own two hands for 20 years' machine.
asciilifeform: incidentally tanker is a poor solution for another reason - it is, like that 'business jet', a 'have slaves machine'
asciilifeform: and small vessels, for all of their faults, are less breakable than large ones.
mircea_popescu: well, by far the cheapest masquerade of a solution is spending the 45mn or so to buy a junky old tanker and be happy. ☟︎
asciilifeform: only that it were interesting.
asciilifeform: hey i never asserted that the problem was ~solvable~...
mircea_popescu: if you imagine you'll have orlov build you a ship out of a well chosen half walnut that'll perform better in "freakish weather" than a tanker you really should move on to apologetics, what can i say!
asciilifeform: y'know, the folks with their own crappy gps etc.
mircea_popescu: and the guy... survived ?
mircea_popescu: maybe. of course they're talking of ... 1995 ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi. maybe ? it'd surely help if they listed names.
asciilifeform: 'Severe weather has sunk more than 200 supertankers and container ships exceeding 200 metres in length during the last two decades. ' << lies ?
mircea_popescu: no tanker broke on anything in 30+ years.
asciilifeform: (quite a few tanker co. have already begun 'downsizing' by removing individual pistons, even..)
asciilifeform: nor the parts.
asciilifeform: and cheap - yes, until the diesel cannot be had in the requisite qty.
asciilifeform: good deal to send some ~other~ poor fuck on, to carry cargo.
mircea_popescu: just like no squirrel is ever going to make a cpu that'll be cheaper than simply taking a box of pentiums out of radioshack in a post-apocalyptic world.
mircea_popescu: and WILL STAY best deal, for your lifetime, given that no amateur shithead/copywriter is going to come up with a way to MAKE NEW ships that'll come out cheaper than the tail end of the industrial process.
mircea_popescu: note that i'm the one explaining "life on the sea" is idiotic, you don't get to hijack that argument. fact remains that IF you're willing to bite the live-on-sea bullet, tanker by far best deal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iirc the nutso scientology guy did for a decade or so.
PeterL: http://www.upmls.com/land.php?view=1088652&board= "The north east corner of the property touches the Ottawa National Forest. The almost one million acres of this Forest extends from the south shore of Lake Superior to the Wisconsin border." ☟︎
PeterL: seems like empty land would be cheaper than boat in the long run
PeterL: For less than a boat you could get an isolated cabin here in MI and be as isolated as you want
asciilifeform: i am interested in the sea as ~strictly~ a place where the dollar buys moar social-isolation bang than elsewhere, and in no other way.
asciilifeform: srsly nobody grasped the point of the boat thread ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 06:05 ben_vulpes: fuck dude go park it off a shipping lane and get weekly oil deliveries if you really burn that much
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu hangs out with moneyed folk. how many live on tankers ?
asciilifeform: millions (even, if one is thrifty, a single million, even of usd) can handily buy the requisite degree of social isolation ON LAND
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 06:05 mircea_popescu: the reason is obvious, they start at more millions than he has. not more millions than he;d have had the cardano shipped on schedule and we all make it rich off the exploding share price, but neways.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514356 << would someone kindly explain to me WHY i would wish to live on a ship if i had 'millions' ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: and go and built tanker that fits this description.
asciilifeform: seaworthy per OWN arse means nothing but 'NOTHING the sea can do to this thing, will sink it'
asciilifeform: any tub is 'seaworthy' when some OTHER arse drowns on it
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514350 << tankers are seaworthy?! perhaps by 'i sit on land while lloyds of london pays for the 100 tankers rogue waves sink every year' sense... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 05:50 mircea_popescu: honestly, the age never existed. i've seen such ages, up close and personal. but the composition of this particular version was exceedingly weak. not even teracotta soldiers, more like pillsbury doughmen.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 05:45 mircea_popescu: he fucking admits deleting emails. what archive is this ?
asciilifeform: y'know, quite like those pediwikia clones that once were pestilentially common
asciilifeform: to the point that i've never thought of gmane as anything but a polluter of search results.
asciilifeform: and ~all of the gmane content is also found elsewhere.
asciilifeform: consider, 'So, anyway, I’m perfectly willing to delete whatever it is they want to have deleted. So I was looking through the stack to see if that was in there somewhere.'
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 05:16 phf: not really drama as such, oldfag bailed, took his project down with him, project being gmane an old repository of mailing lists (and an ntp<->mailing list proxy) https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/
asciilifeform: at this point this thing has been responsible for more tmsr downtime than all of the ddos idiocies of the kako age combined.
asciilifeform: and what is so fucking hard about making the thing retry connect FOREVER if not connected ??
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514253 << it was eaten by systemd. there is a (last i saw, working) clean fork, 'eudev'. and it looks like phf explains further down in the l0gz. ☝︎☟︎
PeterL: mpex.co not responding, what is the correct tld?
thestringpuller: The thing that would intrigue me is an updated chart using MP's method from the "lets chronicle the scammer drama" and had a chart for the total loss of the economy due to scams over 2012 charted by month
thestringpuller: So basically Steemit's fate is being turned into a straight up spam machine since it has no soultion in place for the eternal september except "premined votes from ned and dan" and btc bagholders who bought extremely early and can't yet exit. This is the doom I believe Bitcoin would have faced if Roger, Gavin, Hearia, or whatever incarnation of USG programmed hedonist-bot had hijacked the entire system and allowed spam to be cheap. Th
shinohai: the new lulz is the sudden coinbase decision to launch etc
thestringpuller: shinohai: Steem is slowly drying up. Volume and depth evaporated from bittrex, and they've openly admitted now it's designed like a ponzi to bring more people to the scene. But what I imagine actually happens, is a bunch of smart people write bots to go to war with each other. the spam bots and counter spam bots. The spam bots pretty much will just extract revenue from spam like anything else, but in this context it actually works, si
BingoBoingo: Explains the facebook drop!
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck is that three galon clot
mircea_popescu: hopefully she gets the mj habit.
mircea_popescu: i could never fucking stand the twerp.
BingoBoingo: She sould thank her lucky stars she is too old for http://epmonthly.com/article/the-elephant-test/
mircea_popescu: oh dude. julia roberts crying on teh set of whatever shitty featurette she's shooting now, because whatever ugly goon ditched her sorry ass ? YES!
BingoBoingo: The math is simple Action Movie > Reality TV
BingoBoingo: Democrat turned Republican Trump killed the GOP, Only Democrat turned Republican Greitens can save it
ben_vulpes: not so bad west of the cascades though.
mircea_popescu: things are going to shit north of the rio.
BingoBoingo: 20 seconds of firing a rotary canon is the entire ad
BingoBoingo: Now that he won the GOP nomination for Missouri governor the ads heat up. Trump is totes going to get primaried in 2020 http://qz.com/749606/the-new-gop-nominee-for-missouri-governor-wants-you-to-vote-for-him-because-he-can-shoot-a-massive-gun-into-nothingness/
mircea_popescu: tru, tru.
BingoBoingo: Eh, can't recycle them all for stem cells
mircea_popescu: i dunno about this babying. oodletons of flesh in various states of decay already produced.
BingoBoingo: Old enough to have had baby, young enough to not have to look forward to eventual grandbabies
mircea_popescu: "old enough to have scarlatine immunity ; young enough to not crack a hip if she drops to the floor"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: 30-35 is when the women should be independent and wealthy after having finished basking in the glory of mircea_popescu and learning
ben_vulpes: i thought that was 16-24
mircea_popescu: we're discussing the medical angle, not the sexual.
BingoBoingo: No, it coincides with facebook being/not being a college student thing when those demographics passed
ben_vulpes: anyways, unrelatedly, the new box stands on its own two feet. now to close the colo deal, rack and migrate.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo an ark large enough to build a house in it! with a pool!
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a silent epidemy killing tens of millions of women in their prime and nobody knew anything about it.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : there's 10x more women aged 27-29 on facebook than there's women aged 30-35.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> small tanker, best possibru vessel. << Can even build properly plumbed ark inside!!!