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mircea_popescu: once they get lynched by an angry mob you can say what you will,
mircea_popescu: undata that they're momentarily realising gains out of externalised costs that haven't yet caught up with them.
mircea_popescu: people, of the common kind, can only be fed by a master.
mircea_popescu: undata not so.
mircea_popescu: and if putin keeps hammering him in the head all over the middle east, your scrip may be as good as the confederate's.
mircea_popescu: is obviously a dependency on the fucking master in question
mircea_popescu: the food your master chooses to dispense to you in exchange for scrip that master has given you n the first place
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 it's not the whole story of food.
mircea_popescu: because ars longa, vision short-a.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but somehow the people who expect to be able to eat without being slaves also bitch at the people fighting for the oil requisite for that arrangement.
mircea_popescu: these aren't the same.
mircea_popescu: this is the quintesential broken approach. there's "food" as you're talking, there's "food" as he's talking.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 then why don't you have any ?
mircea_popescu: lest i make you show me how you produce ipods.
mircea_popescu: careful with those "We"s brother
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: machines that can do this exist, they are called animals, and generally have their own problems that prompt people to invent less-general machines. << splendidly put.
mircea_popescu: (to be perfectly fair the original japanese folk story doesn't have that explicit in there, but hey. posteriority separates and all that)
mircea_popescu: you're generally not at liberty to rely on an infinite representational space.
mircea_popescu: adlai there is no guarantee that turtle language includes space for more than "terrible"./
mircea_popescu: in kyoto.
mircea_popescu: and the turtle from kyoto, back towards its pond
mircea_popescu: the turtle from osaka, back towards its pond, in osaka
mircea_popescu: then, after a moment of reflection, they said their goodbies and parted ways
mircea_popescu: just as terrible as well!
mircea_popescu: oh, terrible brother, just terrible. how about kyoto ?
mircea_popescu: how is osaka like ?!
mircea_popescu: they saluted each other, and soon realised each comes from the other's destination. so they naturally inquired
mircea_popescu: after putting step after step for long enough they met at the midpoint of the road between kyoto and osaka.
mircea_popescu: eventually the turtle from osaka had enough of this indignity, and securely tying a salad leaf to its carapace, proceeded on the road to kyoto.
mircea_popescu: eventually the turtle from kyoto had enough of this indignity, and securely tying a salad leaf to its carapace, proceeded on the road to osaka.
mircea_popescu: an old turtle had lived for many years in a pond in osaka. in the later days a new concubine introduced a habit of launching ever more bright felinars at night, which bothered its sleep.
mircea_popescu: but bothered the turtle, because it could no longer see the light of the soon or the moon, or the stars.
mircea_popescu: an old turtle had lived for many years in a pond in kyoto. in the later days a new concubine introduced a habit of throwing strands of silk over the pond, which became fashionable,
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : anyone want to hear retold the ancient japanese story of the turtle from kyoto and the turtle from osaka ?
mircea_popescu: which is why young men should go abroad.
mircea_popescu: <undata> it is likely having grown up here that gives me deep skepticism that things are ever "better" << the canonical form of this is, "it is unlikely for the tadpole that ever lived in the same one puddle to imagine what different puddle means"
mircea_popescu: and yes. wife.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what does it actually take, in terms of resources, to keep a mathematician going? << food.
mircea_popescu: "how to talk to women" ?
mircea_popescu: <undata> americans can't communicate with each other well enough to solve any problems. << this is true actually. seriously, "dating guides" ?
mircea_popescu: their wife.
mircea_popescu: the word sinecure originates from this time, specifically the actual peasant sucking the cock's despising of the uncocksucky position of kepler.
mircea_popescu: just, as people stopped trying alchemy they rejected it, it's all therein contained.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't take some sort of official pronouncement, like the "chemistry foundation" of 1700 signed a statement that they "now hereby reject the heresy of alchemy"
mircea_popescu: the moment they stopped trying to make gold, they rejected the search for gold.
mircea_popescu: jurov yes. in hindsight. by people rejecting wholesale a 1000 years' pile of tradition.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well no banker wakes up and thinks "today i will lose some money"
mircea_popescu: adlai the point is that nothing forces you to speak on topics on which you have nothing to say
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform self-styled "regulators" love to whine pathetic about the "irresponsible risk seeking behaviours" of banks or whoever, conveniently omitting to mention that it's the disease of the system, it's what socialism necessarily breeds (through blindness), and that they themselves took some insane gambles. such as the 50 year "let's finance pseudoscience, who knows,\ maybe it pays off"
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: adlai http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-claims/
mircea_popescu: not like you HAVE TO
mircea_popescu: adlai well, wovon, eh ?
mircea_popescu: primitive transference.
mircea_popescu: not so unlike the purely usian folly of taking life advice from movie stars, "since we like this we might also pretend this is good, or right, or whatever"
mircea_popescu: the entire field is essentially predicating that marx,cCarnagey, ziggler, the incredible hulk et al are actually scientists, or to be taken seriously.
mircea_popescu: nothing notable, no.
mircea_popescu: adlai which these ?
mircea_popescu: similarly, both.
mircea_popescu: discussion continues :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/#comment-109452
mircea_popescu: not a bad approach.
mircea_popescu: yes, lisp included.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (not the literal qwerty, but the 'platonic' qwerty seen as the overall human failing where folks agree on buggy shit and then cement it in place through 'sunk cost') << fwiw i disagree with this assesment. english is broken because it's a commercial pigdin, language without a country. the old languages of yurp are actually fine, and to this day more powerful than any synthetic syntax.
mircea_popescu: adlai> we could define that the turd network doesn't count as output, since it's communication between computers and not output to the user <<< reading this sort of shit makes my head bleed
mircea_popescu: is he like the only b-a jew or something ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, why is teh hydra chosen to attempt turning pete of all peeps anyway ?
mircea_popescu: copy of its source code ~as its only output~
mircea_popescu: lol are you being flexible ?
mircea_popescu: wait, wut ?!
mircea_popescu: adlai its output is already specified, and the specification is incompatible with quine
mircea_popescu: why won';t you be moar flexible!11
mircea_popescu: the shit they come up with you know ? "to claim that there are no solutions to X equation is RIGID!!!11"
mircea_popescu: undata totally.
mircea_popescu: holy shit already, people, start whipping your children.
mircea_popescu: "to say that you will never give us free shit is ~academically~ badword and rigid!!11"
mircea_popescu: derp.
mircea_popescu: "To broadly claim that socialism fails without examining its proper context and its successes is academically lazy, and betrays a rigidly static view of ideology. Pure and simple."
mircea_popescu: such fatlogic.
mircea_popescu: so his argument goes that well, ussr is not a good example of how socialism generates wealth because it wasn't rich enough to begin with, whereas china is very rich now, so maybe it will try sociaism, notwithstanding that the path it took to get rich is the same path everyone took o get rich, specifically antisocialism.
mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/20/software-doesnt-fail-socialism-does/#comment-4247 << this is probably the ultimate example of socialist mind rot.
mircea_popescu: it can't be a quine, it has to blockchain
mircea_popescu: ;;google c++ palindromes
mircea_popescu: official+^
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, the official bitcoin foundation official bitcoin core code.
mircea_popescu: that way nubsy doesn't need to worry which side is up.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes asciilifeform others : here's an idea, can you make the official code also be a palindrome ?
mircea_popescu: that;d be because he cnat raed
mircea_popescu: if i'm quirky, it's because all those chemicals in the filters.
mircea_popescu basks in the glory of being an anthropologist, and therefore politically allowed and intellectually immune to the drawbacks of rooting through the human headshit pile
mircea_popescu: whatever, pick any one of the chick pulp authors
mircea_popescu: compare random paragraphs with random paragraphs culled off sandra brown, it'll be readily apparent in half hour
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, women are actually smarter than that.
mircea_popescu: adlai it royally sucks as a "philosophy", or "economic theory", too.
mircea_popescu: memory leak has nothing to do with this.
mircea_popescu: this is true
mircea_popescu: jurov yes but, a register increasing is this sort of leak. you're saying we fundamentally can't live in an immutable world.
mircea_popescu: say, atlantis went there.
mircea_popescu: as human history presently stands, the reality of such memory loss is actually supported
mircea_popescu: here's a funny point about "supported by history", especially when one means "history as selected by me" :