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BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Betting is
a chore. I could not imagin the pain of running
a venture.
mircea_popescu: because i'd have to have
a bank do it for me, and i'd have to impose they interface btc, which they don;'t wish to do etc.
herbijudlestoids: he owned
a couple of horses and was relatively well known with the sydney horse racing community
herbijudlestoids: and one of the security guards happened to be extremely well off, but he worked as
a guard to keep the tax offic eoff his back
BingoBoingo: You know for someone who uses shady forum advertised sports books quite
a bit... I prolly ought to look harder at who runs them.
herbijudlestoids: many moons ago i used to work as an ops guy for
a large cable tv company
mircea_popescu: i don't have
a book. anyone has/knows someone with
a large old style book ?
mircea_popescu: which is
a question that has to be resolved bfore i throw money at marketing people.
mircea_popescu: it would seem so, but i have suspicions that it's simply
a question of there not being
a market.
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: if you offered them
a betting model that has
a lower house commission, etc they might be very interested
herbijudlestoids: moral of the story: just like all other businesses, an appropriate level of investment is required to have
a successful outcome
herbijudlestoids: i guess ot make
a good bot would require similar investment to having good people
mircea_popescu: hft bots aren't
a magic amulet, like "bitcoin makes me anon so i can buy drugz"
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> nobody cares anymore about sports, and the bets continue sort-of by inertia, like investment in yahoo continues. <<< maybe it's like the forum sports betting is just
a buncha scammers and noobs alt-betting
Duffer1: i wouldn't know, just
a thought ^.^
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 there's at least half
a dozen diff sites that tried - and failed - to live on that model.
Duffer1: bets not being created doesn't necessarily mean lack of interest in betting with bitcoin, if there was
a specific section dedicated to live odds sports book it just might attract more people
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Right, but I imagine most sports bettors never had the money to make
a dent in the 2B difficulty bet.
mircea_popescu: if that's the case,
a start-up hoping to get that market on
a new model would be kinda doomed. the paying customer is too old to move and the young customer does not exist.
mircea_popescu: so perhaps
a correct model could be, "sports betting consists of people who lived in the 70s, had fun with bets in the 70s, continuing to do what they did then, where they did it then"
Duffer1: MP or there's not enough sports book being made to attract
a betting crowd
kakobrekla: >Furthermore, notice that
a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know, i burned
a lot of cycles on the subject of why the fuck sports bets are faring so poorly on bitbet.
BingoBoingo: Not that they had to cover the birth control, but that there was
a form.
BingoBoingo: Basically there being
a form at all seems to actually make Baby Jesus cry was their argument.
BingoBoingo: Well, that they have to fill out
a form to not cover birth control for their employees.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically some group had
a religious objection to
a form (they were nuns) . They pretested the need to complete the form in court. The court said well, you don't need to do that form, but you can fill out this identical form we imagineered or produce your own identical form. (the form relating to some Obamacar Birth Control thing)
truffles: an intellectual but not
a genius :D
mircea_popescu: i mean... i don't get it, i consider myself educated and so forth but i can't come to
a conclusion
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that entire dispute is pretty much
a testament to how fundamentally unworkable the system has become
mircea_popescu: from cnn right after the O speech last night: I think I’ve said before that I think
a speech by Barack Obama is
a lot like sex. The worst there ever was is still excellent, and I thought he gave
a very competent performance tonight”
Duffer1: it's
a good interview if you need to brush up on some good sounding talking points
Duffer1: andreas antonopolous talked about that
a bit recently in an interview with joe rogan
mircea_popescu: so it looks like argentina will be getting
a currency reform
punkman: you could take
a vinyl body suit and cut some holes, wouldn't be very comfortable to tan in
mircea_popescu: if they're say 2x2 to 3x5 or so they look... you know, like
a leopard
nubbins`: "where are his arms? why is
a laptop hanging from his belt?"
nubbins`: sebastian marshall had
a lel writing that, and we had
a lel reading it
nubbins`: being friendly: having
a lel. being polite: inviting others to have
a lel.
nubbins`: ^ this shows
a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature
mircea_popescu: the obnoxious part is that i wear suits. always have. i was
a highscooler with
a three piece suit.
mircea_popescu: "professional" is "guy in
a suit". pure cargo cultism.
mircea_popescu: by completely abandoning
a critical review of those conditions, and instead going with formalisms, like
nubbins`: fun fact, i once refused to make
a code change on moral grounds
mircea_popescu: hacking is
a much larger part of corporate culture than corporations willingly admit, even to themselves.
mircea_popescu: well yes, customer service : hire
a bunch of veggies to go "yes sir, sure sir, can do sir" to anyone walking in
punkman: they got too many users to give
a fuck
BingoBoingo: punkman: No one gets to change keys though unless they can sign the change with
a still older key of theirs.
punkman: I like that it still takes
a few phone calls to steal whatever
mircea_popescu: this is the reason i do not wish to live in
a world without opression, and this is why bullshit like "social justice" is outright immoral.
mircea_popescu: "Furthermore, notice that
a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it. Something is clearly seriously wrong with that guy!! It would be nice if someone were to hack him (and all companies industrializing/profiting off the bitcoin with expensive rigs) and donate the bitcoins to charity (bitcoin100 or etc)."
BingoBoingo: Here's
a hint, Americans who work in solar and whose jobs can't be outsourced operate squeegees
herbijudlestoids: he asked me if i could convince
a friend of mine to accept bitcoin
gribble: Error: 'vexual' is not
a valid channel.
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a regular expression the message (1 more message)
gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not
a valid command.
BingoBoingo: 85 minutes into the hearing, saving coins creates
a weird dynamic
BingoBoingo: Kind of what I imagined. Dunno how many ways there are to imagine such
a thing though.
BingoBoingo: THere's
a bit of overlap here that makes the right attribute hard to sus out.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: Being 10 minutes out from catching up with the Day's proceedings I imagine Odesk will probably be too slow and too shitty (the second point is never
a question with Odesk)
BingoBoingo: Maybe the biggest difference comes from settlers in Illinois having become victims of
a native joke and naming Chicago after the region's natural onion stink.
BingoBoingo: Maybe if Illinois has one of these things I could find myself invited. Illinois is rather similar to NY. Both States are giant wastland with Giant cities occupying
a small portion of the waste.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine such chances are low. That is why I kind of hold this out as
a bit of
a dream.
BingoBoingo: I wonder if any of these people speaking has ever had to handle
a classroom where one has to anticipate any degree of retardation and ignorance from student questions.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure. I would like the chance though to add some theater to one of these circuses though.
A chance to go on the record seems like it could be fun (even though right nao by being in this channel I am on the most important record atm.)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm following the circus because I think appearing at
a later incarnation of one of these hearings might be
a fun way to break my pseudonymity.
BingoBoingo: Fucking retardation from Mr Litecoin "It only matters reimbursing that dollar amount" That is Usagi fucking losing 90+ % of fund value is
a victory logic.
BingoBoingo: physical reality suggests not eating for
a month would be
a horrible way to die and people talk about that.
A much worse way to die physical reality suggests might be gorging of food for 30 days with an orfice sealed by either cyano acrylate or sutures preventing bowel evacuation.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think this is the first time you said so in such
a blunt way. Before it seems you pushed people to read between the lines.
BingoBoingo: Judie Rinearson may be the most informed witness on the Mr Litecoin panel, for suggesting that to run
a BTC-Fiat exchange you ought to already have substanitial piles of both.
punkman: so, the US has
a patent for weaponized boar taint
BingoBoingo: I have to wonder is
a single Winkelvii incapable of undertaking any action on their own?