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tyrion70:
I could have read on the website that if
I ordered a kit
I would get 1 m board with 16 boards..
fractal: thats exactly how
I interpreted it -- based on the bet language -- thats all
I have to go by... The site doesn't say "message Anduck" if you have any questions.
tyrion70: again,
I could argue both sides; so
I say it's invalid..
tyrion70: like
I said if
I opened the box today one could argue that
I have received two units instead of one..
fractal: Well,
i'd say that if they had to ship more hardware -- they missed performance targets.
tyrion70: anduck: do you agree that if
I ordered a 400 GH Kit from bitfury and
I openend the box
I would see two "units"
tyrion70: anduck; do you agree that
I should not have to read another website to bet?
tyrion70: anduck,
I could argue that if
I ordered a 400GH Kit as you describe it,
I now received 2 units...
fractal: tyrion70:
i agree with you, your arguement that this is a bad bet, is probably valid.
Anduck: what
i said earlier,
i say now
fractal: You can't write a bet and they say "oh,
I actually meant this" later
Anduck: the only declaration for 400gh unit
i can think of is that what they sell at the site. the 400 gh KIT is what they sell
Anduck: and
i think it was quite clear to understand that 25gh unit and 400gh unit meant the thing you can buy from the website. and the thing you can buy from the website is kit
tyrion70: Anduck like
I said,
I have to go on the text in the bet..
tyrion70: Someone could have thought: No way they get that GH/W out of one chip:
I'm betting no
fractal: tyrion70: of course thats true. which is why its a bad bet
i think...
tyrion70:
I believe that ppl could have bet on this bet text with two things in mind..
tyrion70: ok.. now
I get the complete picture..
fractal: tyrion70: Exactly. thank you. this is what
i've been trying to argue for 3 days
fractal: Anduck:
I agree with you. but thats not what the bet says
tyrion70: well that's what
I asked earlier..
fractal: tyrion70: Nobody who ordered a 400Gh unit has posted recieving more then 400Gh.... so
I can't answer that question.
tyrion70: if
I would have bought 1 unit.. how many GH would
I have right now fractal?
tyrion70:
I believe in general that a valid bet MUST contain all information needed..
FabianB_: hmm..
i bet the bitfury argument loop will still last a few hours..
Anduck: as unit
i meant the 400 gh package of mining gear
fractal: But, according to the language, the bet is a NO. That doesn't change the fact that
I think Bitfury is awesome and did a great job.
fractal: If the bet was voided,
I would not mind as
I do feel badly for Anduck -- he wrote the bet wrongly to what he meant.
I have a conscience.
fractal:
I can only hope that most rational people will look at the bet langugage, and then look and see that the 400Gh unit --as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- missed performance targets, and that the not all conditions of the bet were met.
fractal: No, thats not what the bet says.... Maybe you can strech the argument for the 25Gh card by saying its modular (even though
i disagree because AS ADVERTISED it was 1 card), but you certianly can't for the 400Gh unit
pankkake:
I bet ~0.10 BTC on this. If
I give it to you both, will you shut up? :)
fractal: A 25 gh unit was advertised as a single H-card. --
I'm pasting it all the time because you don't seem to realize that the bet says hardware device/uni AS ADVERTISED' --
i'm only going by the bet language
fractal: Again,
i'm only going by what the bet says
fractal: Again,
I'm only going by what the bet actually says -- Thats why
I bet NO. because
I didn't think their 400Gh unit as advertised would meet targets -- and they'd have to refund (or ship more hardware) to make up for their mistakes and underperformance.
Anduck:
i don't understand why you all the time come up with that they had to add more h-cards for the unit.. :/ they failed that but it's got nothing to do with the performance of the unit!
Anduck: but
i must again say: he ordered 400gh unit and 25gh unit and got both, both performing as advertised (except he got extra hardware for that)
mircea_popescu:
I'm still tweaking my units manually.
I'd say 380GH from 16 H-boards is possible.
Anduck: 400gh and 25gh unit together does that
i think
seangeng_:
i'll see if
i can write something that captures it's output
mircea_popescu: pankkake well yeah, the sane criticisms are the worst from what
i see.
pankkake:
I wrote that her actions were actually discouraging women to get info the profession
pankkake: mircea_popescu: mostly French forums (one multiple times).
I remember blogs (last one was Adria Richards, even banned me from reading), what.cd
ThickAsThieves: odd that
i'm one of the few people wondering where the hell that much coin came from
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves speak for yourself fatcat.
i'm poverty stricken in my poverty strike.
Diablo-D3:
I think unicode actually has a snowflake character, btw
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: could
i push you s.mpoe in exchamge fr isk to pay my eve subscription?
LorenzoMoney: Diablo-D3: that was so clever! wait while
I stand in shock
mircea_popescu: what the fuck,
i have raw vids of about a dozen girls im probably going to straight delete as
i can't be bothered to have edited
ThickAsThieves:
i think you underestimate how much coin is up for grabs
mircea_popescu:
i guess there's always the possibility that some smooth operator got the wool over the eyes of a backer, and bought a bunch of coins to finance a set of scams.
ThickAsThieves:
i think its safe to say that 7k coins got extracted from labcoin buyers
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they are mostly same group
i'm pretty sure.
mircea_popescu: these'd be the constructions that
i can see making him two different flavours of stupid rather than actively complicit.
mircea_popescu:
i recall you were here a month or so back when we did the math, and it was something ridiculous top the tune of 50k
mircea_popescu:
i guess it's my mistake that in adding volume lines on the actual sites
i somehow gave the idiots the impression that a "real good copy" TM consists of LARGER DIGITS
ThickAsThieves: this is one point of yours that
i havent bought into yet
mircea_popescu: what if they're successful, ad absurdum ?
i'll meet the guy at a conference in 2023 and say, o, you're the guy that was lieing in 2013 ?
mircea_popescu:
i gave him the task of using the an0 to make himself a budget for the thing
mircea_popescu: in principle these should also, but
i dun wanna mislead.
Neil:
I've successfully reused addresses
I generated several times; just not sure about house ones
Neil: Yeah not obvious; and
I don't want to be a source of gracious donations to shareholders :)
mircea_popescu: oh cause the house bet is linked to you hmm.
i think we need to poll kakobrekla on thios one
Neil: Never mind
I'll just get a new address
Neil: mircea_popescu: If
I want to bet on the side the house gave me at the start of the bet (
i.e. the 0.0x freebie) can
I send to the send to address for those house ones too, just like one
I request myself?
Neil: It was there 5 mines ago;
I'll just wait a few mins.#
Pickaxe_Included: does anyone 'make a living' off of bets of bitcoin? like could
i in theory create 100 new bets everyday and the winners get me paid?
Pickaxe_Included: on bets of bitcoin if
i bet on my own new bet and it gets rejected....do
i get my btc back?
mod6:
i was like, a super-n00b when testing eulora.
mod6:
i need to perhaps build my first gaming machine ever so
i can play eulora ...
i might start or try out eve too. but im such a n00b.
mircea_popescu: tho in the future
i imagine there'll be people doing it
VanCleef: okey,
i only see btct and havelock
qxzn:
I am too lazy to do that
jborkl:
i saw a picture so you know it is true
jborkl:
i cant find it mp, butbthey have a cave in alabama? cant remember the state