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mod6: mornin'. many lulz reading this lastnight: http://trilema.com/2016/pisi-dot-ar-y-otras-temas/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yer thing needs realtime 3d iirc.
phf: asciilifeform: or possibly gabriel_laddel doesn't know what he's talking about
asciilifeform: phf: possibly it got inserted because the unusably slow thing were thrown out ?
phf: last time i checked there wasn't cairo/freetype/etc. in mcclim to begin with
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: you're going to be waiting a while in any case, so I wouldn't get to worked up about it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference between your spec and my spec should be obvious. is it ?
phf: asciilifeform: i don't know why gabriel_laddel is saying what he's saying. truetype has already been rewritten in lisp, and that's what mcclim uses for fancy truetype rendering. it's expensive as hell, and equally pointless.
asciilifeform: ditto if it insists on transmitting whole video frames.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel huh. listen, probably not actionable right now, but in general and on the long term if you write me a crystal space replacement in lisp ima definitely bundle it in eulora.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: which is to say, if i cannot connect over network to machine across the planet and have the window FILL THE ALLOTED SPOT on my display, CORRECTLY, 'replacement' is junk.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel opengl too ?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: keep in mind that a 'replacement for x' that doesn't do the same job is not a replacement.
gabriel_laddel: all of the business that I do inbetween now and then is simply churn to get there
gabriel_laddel: X has to die, this is non-negotiable
phf: gabriel_laddel: have you tried actually getting some quality type 1 fonts and setting them up ~with your x server~ and seeing if you like the result
phf: oh for fucks say, client side font rendering. welcome to 2002, can i fuck up your stack
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I am already paid to make money with it
gabriel_laddel: on my dead harddrive there is a bunch of half-implemented useful things like clim-spec-in-clim, the "navigator" which is a reflective search apropos, I've taken climacs and made it usable for day-to-day work...
asciilifeform: you already cannot make money with it, the athena widgets look like dog barf
gabriel_laddel: The fonts look like shit without truetype and that makes it impossible for me to make money using CLIM.
asciilifeform: sorta like we did with trb.
asciilifeform: used to be just x
gabriel_laddel: talking directly to the monitor / whatever and implementing CLIM on that.
asciilifeform: i dun even recall tt being ~in~ the picture in '07.
gabriel_laddel: No. Cutting X/cario/opengl/truetype out of the picture completely.
asciilifeform: of what ? rewriting truetype in cl ?
gabriel_laddel: one thing at a time
gabriel_laddel: don't worry about it, I'm taking care of it
asciilifeform: what happened to 'do WHOLE MOTHERFUCKING STACK of graphics henderson-style' ?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel but what's the goal or how are you proceeding or anything like that ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: redid the website, removed all the crap backends, gas2serra fixed a threading bug that caused irritating visual artifacts, I went through the whole of the CLIM archives and pulled out all the useful info, the codebase has been totally re-ordered, truetype is now the default, bugfixes relating to not pulling in the correct X keyboard
mircea_popescu: im curious too, turns out. started what gabriel_laddel ?
mircea_popescu: ah. that. well...
mircea_popescu: half the job right ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform best i could tell they... started.
asciilifeform: (you have a spiffy www but the clim looks much as i found it in 2007)
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: for my edification, plox to summarize what, exactly, you lot have done to mcclim
gabriel_laddel: have had to quash them as best I can
gabriel_laddel: there have been discussions of re-implementing it on top of the web, ncurses etc
mircea_popescu: yeah, i can see that one :)
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: that's one perspective. another is that I'm extrodinarily lucky that they're doing anything useful on mcclim at all
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel hey, they're people, with a brain right ? can benefit from discussion of this as any other topic.
gabriel_laddel: were I in charge of fundraising, I'd not be doing it as an anon anyways but rather calling syscog, ravenspack etc and trying to get donations in the 10ks rather than pocket change, but w/e
BingoBoingo will need to dust off copy of "spam like a pro in 24 hours"
mircea_popescu: importing bitcoin into your financial affairs works its magic just by being a node ; doesn't have to be the whole process. actually, can't even be whole process, that's gavintardism. but yeah, no big deal.
gabriel_laddel: I'm not in charge of fundraising, talk to beach re this.
mircea_popescu: whose job is it of the usg's what jackdaniel gets paid and from whence it came ?
mircea_popescu: that may be, but this is scarcely a reason to breach your privacy and etc.
gabriel_laddel: because some of us need fiat to eat
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean... why handle donations in shitcoin in the first place.
gabriel_laddel: he is currently paying jackdaniel several thousand out of pocket to help
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: if so, have him drop into #clim and talk to beach, who is handling fundraising / distributing funds atm
mircea_popescu: damn we still need that jobs thing.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I want the wwwtron
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: do you have an intern who wants to make a couple hundred bucks here and there writing CL for McCLIM?
asciilifeform: last night trinque posted his
mircea_popescu: whether os or not os needn't be resolved ; but gabriel_laddel should be able to acquire a copy i say!
mircea_popescu: lol. you heard the man phf ; gotta have your tool.
gabriel_laddel: phf: there is no search right now and it makes the whole development cycle hellish
gabriel_laddel: phf: is your logging engine open source / can it be so that we can have less shit logs on #clim?
BingoBoingo: There was also the one the story came in
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the one alf linked, i know no other.
BingoBoingo: The ones from the story or is there another paste?
mircea_popescu: and plox notify the parties named in that paste BingoBoingo . twitter, email, w/e.
mircea_popescu: nice! thanks asciilifeform for the tip!
BingoBoingo: Maybe they can get NEW cardboard to further advance their claims!
BingoBoingo: Well, in that case, those Argentine cowsies you are so fond of have it all
mircea_popescu: (it is not technically possible for a man's claims to exceed his wealth, because wealth includes the value of all claims by definition)
BingoBoingo: What of the man worth 1 pence who sues for a whole pound?
mircea_popescu: (note the sheeps at end is intentional, because ships)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mind if i write a qntra detailing justice holman's breach of the european declaration of human rights and other matters ?
mircea_popescu will find this joint one day, give a girl a five and ask for change.
mircea_popescu: http://www.lastnightsparty.com/another1/slides/8Y0A3931.JPG << ahahahaha ok, this shit's epic. check out the milliONEaire!
mircea_popescu: http://www.lastnightsparty.com/another1/slides/8Y0A3739.JPG << dude... really ? is that actually intended as an insult ?
BingoBoingo: Do they actually live?
mircea_popescu: the indignity. illiterate peronista judges. is there enough alcohol in the "civilised world" ?
mircea_popescu: how can these people live ?
mircea_popescu: i'd fucking call a hit. what the fucking shit is this. omfg.
mircea_popescu: judge can't spell, and has the unmitigated audacity to say THAT ?
mircea_popescu: "I have to say that I do not find it very ediffying that people in this financial bracket should be taking up a day of court time over a sum which to them, though not to others, is objectively so small. However, agreement has not been reached and I must rule." << HOLY SHIT
asciilifeform: whole thing is a riot
phf: hehe, to answer asciilifeform's question from long time ago, you want wife like kim, so when you go to da club all the hoes look like your hubby
mircea_popescu: i know of no us-born individual of similar accomplishment as that armenian.
mircea_popescu: phf and this because kim totally fucking won the assculture war. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://www.lastnightsparty.com/another1/slides/8Y0A2881.JPG << ahaha lol oops, i take it back. they got blondes. from 1970. check out the ex trophy wife!
phf: i think blonds are out at the moment, everyone wants a quirky hipster brunete, miami only makes it worse with all the latinos. i know a few blonds that actually color their hair. it's trully barbaric age up here.
mircea_popescu: http://www.lastnightsparty.com/another1/slides/8Y0A2858.JPG << this is EXACTLY how Old Whore looked at that age : a transvestite prostitute.
mircea_popescu: but they ran out of blondes in the us huh.
mircea_popescu: the tits are superb, btw, best silicone i've seen in a while.
phf: well, terry richardson popularized the style of photography. sort of trashy "amateur" photography with good lighting, vomit and tits. it all looks a lot more polished when you're shit faced
mircea_popescu: (also, props to all the genius "DRM" nonsense they installed. fucking clearly it works huh.)
mircea_popescu: typical argentine has all the pretense of small time german krownprinz and all the sabiduria of rural south cali gangster.
mircea_popescu: no but that's exactly my point.
phf: also miami is where da clubs at, it's like a trashier, "let's go to the beach" version of new york club scene. let's have merlin bronques say a few words about it http://www.lastnightsparty.com/miami/
mircea_popescu: (fwiw, historical romanian guard types did fire large gauge shotgun loaded with salt at kids/thieves/etc)
phf: ahaha, i know people with such ridiculous k tolerance, i'd like to see cops shoot at them
mircea_popescu: "now she can go off the pill, and i have an elite highschore!" "sweet!"
mircea_popescu: "dude i finally passed that hard level in bubble casino" "How ?" "manned up and got that castration procedure wife kept wanting finally"
asciilifeform: (not to be confused with the other typical american 'anaesthesia' where you get to ~feel~ all of the cuts, but cannot move or speak to complain)