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trinque: revolutionary blockchain
technology
trinque: now he's going
to deedbot
torrent hashes and somehow make it all back
mircea_popescu: But
the
tricky bits here are
these spheres within spheres,
the Klein bottle
tanks,
the irrational gears
mircea_popescu: apparently not even folk - jordin kare is
the propulsion guy neh ?
mircea_popescu: (you can, incidentally, obtain polygonal holes - if not necessarily square - with odd shaped bit moving on
two different orbits)
mircea_popescu: so
then
there's
the
two and only
two available strategies.
the psychopath (the more i lose,
the more i send, fuck you) ; and
the woman (the more i lose,
the less i send, may my children cover
the earth).
mircea_popescu: in
the end, material shortages decide a lot more
than people like
to
think.
mircea_popescu: there's an overarching consensus
that
the germans would have broken britain had
they not been cowards and kept up
the london bombin.
mircea_popescu: romanian
train (no need
to discuss alloy,
there were like 4) ; egyptian car (they'll use
the best
they can) ; etc. many possible contexts.
mircea_popescu: the alternative
to
this is strictly "the lady of
the lake, her arm clad in
the purest shimmering samite, held aloft computador from
the bosom of
the lake"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will note
that
there exists no life of
the spirit outside of exactly
this "i will pick high level abstracrtion and proceed
to allign realia
to it"
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the incomprehensible mists were him, not you. who
the hell knows what's in
the box of a guy who does such contradictory
things as alf pointed out. i wouldn't risk much on
the
theory we share any mythology, and it's not even directly evident gabriel_laddel actually lives meaningfully related
to
the human condition.
mircea_popescu: phf
this "you already know all knowledge, just, you know, wash" is ridiculous enough, but nowhere
the ridiculousness is in starker evidence
than in
the harem. "so i washed, can i bellydance yet ?" "no, wash more."
gabriel_laddel: under what circumstances is it appropriate
to open a deli?
phf: mircea_popescu:
that point is consistently being driven home. in fact i got
to
talk lisp
to a bunch of random people and had a very visceral experience of
the gap. hathayogapradipika says
to keep your yoga secret, i.e. don't be a incomprehensible myst. but sometimes i still get carried away. ~some~ people grok me
though, even when i start speaking internal experiences.
gabriel_laddel: we need masamune machines
to design on
top of until
then
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: we've already discussed
this. I'm going
to be selling masamune computers + related until
the leap can be made from
the cee machine
to... something else
mircea_popescu: well, it certainly is much more effective when stuck with
the apparent incomprehensible mysts, as seen here.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I live in silly-con valley. If I - just - wanted
to make money I'd be out doing it.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't
take it all
the way
to
the cave, i believe
that one can
tap into shared mythic space which has more
to do with human condition
than it does with humanless abstract. but for how often i'm misunderstood, i suspect
that socratic method is much more effective.
mircea_popescu: a point platon never quite groked, hence his
terrible political failures.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, socrates used questions specifically for
that fundamental reason -
that understanding may only happen on
the basis of what
the understander contains, and naught else.
mircea_popescu: phf but your argument fundamentally is "there's no need for communication because
the essence of all
things is in all
things", which is what
that is.
phf: mircea_popescu: i
think
that it is shared between all designers, it's just
that newbs have a very adhoc design space vision, it's better formed with experience
gabriel_laddel: phf: I just want
the fking
thing
to work and make me some money.
phf: mircea_popescu: i
think asciilifeform and gabriel_laddel goals are very similar, combined
together
they'll produce an easy low complexity (but perhaps less glamorous) design space
traversal path. gabriel_laddel doesn't see it, because he
thinks
that a certain stop on his path is "dirty" or somesuch, so he wants
to avoid it altogether
mircea_popescu: phf
the fundamental problem here is
that you misuse words. "to resolve on
the basis of" requires a basis, which is
to say, something shared. whether right or wrong - i can resolve quantum physics disputes on
the basis of coran suras if need be. yet your
thing is "this is cool so should be basis". how cool it is has no bearing on how shared it is, you know ?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: anyways,
this is an ex-gf, looking for a new knife
a111: Logged on 2016-08-12 15:19 mircea_popescu: phf define for me
the concept of "bridged on architectural grounds"
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-12#1519202 << it's kind of a pun, i
think of systems design as landscape
traversal. i
think
there are frequently paths, as is
the case here,
that hit multiple design goals and have lower overall complexity, better
than a seemingly direct path,
that has a hidden high complexity. abstract discussions about ideological goals,
that don't
take into account design space
traversal can be resolved by actual
taking
☝︎ trinque cackles at
this measure of whence
the problem
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I can assure you
that
the problem here is not me. 'dated' (for some value of
that word) a 35 yr chinese woman who had zero hangups
gabriel_laddel: Idk, couple months.
the lsd
thing never came up explicitly, but several
things in
that vein did.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: an
to
the "cowardice"
thing. girls who are afraid of eg, dropping lsd, but happily eat whatever
the doctor hands
them, inspite of a boy having
them read, OUT LOUD various articles, research on
the respective effects == cowards aor stupid.
shinohai still finds yesterday's
trilema girl quite fetching.
mircea_popescu: that's part of
the whole "o look, latinas in miami" lulz. if you're going
to decide
to go brunette,
there's a shitload better options
than fucking south america, and
they come from
the golden crescent.
trinque dated one;
they're fucking hot
mircea_popescu: i suspect
the subtext
there is "you're poor". i've known irani chicks, not exhibited such problems. perhaps
their daddy being petrified of me a large factor.
trinque: does "coward" resolve
to "you should probably right your ship" ?
gabriel_laddel: can memorize anything, rattle of facts about various interesting
topics.
Totally unable
to see
things from outside of
the box she's been in for N years.
PeterL: is having
the girlfriend
too much work, or does
the
too much work get in
the way of having girlfriend?
mircea_popescu: perhaps it's just
the girls he cavorts with. needy adolescent can be exhausting.
mircea_popescu: consider
that
there's more
to your
tooling
than just
the software and fix
things in priority order.
mircea_popescu: trinque> you'll actually get more useful work done if you
take
time
to fix your life. << i support
the notion. life's not a sprint but a marathon, and attempting
to build anything serious on
the very rotten shifty bases here described is not unlike
trying
to do clim in windows 95.
danielpbarron: yeah and
then
the 30 minutes are up, he loses
the +v, and
then gets it again with nobody saying up
mircea_popescu: Apr 16 03:51:01 * deedbot removes voice from gabriel_laddel Apr 16 03:52:58 * deedbot gives voice
to gabriel_laddel << ah yes.
trinque: the brain needs control over its environment
to function best
trinque: you'll actually get more useful work done if you
take
time
to fix your life.