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mircea_popescu: but really, voltaire actually had a fine blueprint, EARLY.
they just didn't read him.
mircea_popescu: sure. but
the ineptitude of
the junker class is well documented ; and i daresay well understood.
mircea_popescu: they're poorer
than
they've ever been ; people point and laugh at venezuela, but venezuela never fucking had
the blessing of such an euro outpour.
mircea_popescu: first,
the german made
them rich buying leather
to make
the pikehauberk.
then, grain in ww2.
then borrowed.
then defaulted.
then borrowed. etc.
mircea_popescu: as proven by
the fact
that
they have
to date meaninglessly squandered ~5 fortunes.
mircea_popescu: these people can't be rich no matter what
the fuck happens
to
them.
mircea_popescu: depends on
the concept of stupidity involved, really.
they're not separate.
mircea_popescu: the couch really is not your business, we're discussing whether
this beam is horizontal or not, and if
these angles sum up
to
the right value.
mircea_popescu: "what kind of house can i build if you and your wife aren't seated on a couch watching
tv as we build
the walls around you!!!1"
mircea_popescu: i said "a specific definition is not required for
the discussion", you opted
to stuff some nonsense into
that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, a specific definition of poverty is, much like euler's god, not actually necessary for
this discussion.
mircea_popescu: (the agreement i inferred
to have with phf as a result of
that statement was "it's not even clear what sort of hyperexponential is involved, it grows so fast". we don't have any sort of upper bounds.)
mircea_popescu: s is nonsensical, because
the "1" was also "all". a geometry describing one dimension in a world where only one dimension may exist is not any worse
than a geometry describing
three in a world with
three.
they're exactly
the same
thing :
the complete story of geometry.
mircea_popescu: i said "phf
the problem becomes rapidly complex as
the
tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch
to not stink"".
this is a statement of
the nature of, "geometry becomes rapidly longer as
the number of possible dimensions goes above 1". you said "and i never for a moment disagreed with 'snatch stinks? yer poor & stupid'".
this is a statement of
the nature of "if you only describe one dimension, you suck at geometry".
thi
mircea_popescu: in
the context it was used, "i would like my snatch
to not stink" made up
the whole of
the universe ; in
the context you used it, it's part of a larger universe.
this comparison is invalid.
mircea_popescu: the number 4 in
there isn't comparable
to
the number 4 as you compared it ;
they're different
things.
mircea_popescu: hence why
the various complex fabulations of
the psycho-overactive are so dimly regarded.
mircea_popescu: generally complexity-reducing rules are for instance much more effectual as a class
than ~anything else.
mircea_popescu: phf
the problem becomes rapidly complex as
the
tasks involved go above "i would like my snatch
to not stink"
phf: "be less stupid" might possibly be a cellular automaton. you can
take steps according
to certain rules, but
the state of less stupid is emergent
mircea_popescu: money's always
there ; i guess
there's no coins, bills, whatever.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even convinced "summon nazi alien
troops, massacre anyone" is solution.
mircea_popescu: there's pretty much nothing i can say about it,
turns out.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, should
the operator be interested in resolving
the poverty issue,
the solution is always and without exception being less stupid ; notwithstanding
that
the
tempting path usually
taken is being more stupud, for some reason reminescent of
that great pacino monologue in devil's advocate.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-14 16:36 mircea_popescu:
there's a bunch of people who, however poor may
they be irl, are still not driven by
the poverty so
to speak.
mircea_popescu: mno. if it ever makes sense
to say "i am poor", in whatever context, for whatever reason, EVER ; it
then
therefore and for
this reason as sole and sufficient it also makes sense
to say "i am stupid".
mircea_popescu: let's put it
this way : in any situation when symbol.poverty is defined, symbol.idiocy is also defined and equals 1.
mircea_popescu: what's
this, "i'll consider looking at how nonsensical my nonsense is if you bake in
this other nonsense" ?
mircea_popescu: again -
the
test is given. what, you expect
this
to be resolved from hitler's own
throne, administratively and universally, as if somehow universal knowledge is possible ?
mircea_popescu: you insist in living in one while holding
the ideology of
the other.
mircea_popescu: why ? if "i'd love
to chat you up but i gotta hurry back
to work" applies, boy's poor, and girl either moves on or doesn't.
mircea_popescu: that
they actually
try
to pretend what you
try
to pretend, "poverty is not automatically disqualifying"
mircea_popescu: six
to a room, from 6
to 60yo, every sperm is sacred,
that jazz.
mircea_popescu: ie specifically
the sort of arrangement you don't seem
to like.
mircea_popescu: you want
to live in
that alt-world where not all poor people are by
that fact imbeciles, move
to a juntos vencemos place, live with
the slime.
mircea_popescu: that you'd be living
there as opposed
to, say, argentina, while entertaining
these ridoinculous "not all poor people are imbeciles" delusions is pretty nutty in itself.
mircea_popescu: VERY MUCH, much more
than commonly realised, in
the way
the us works is predicated on a "can you afford one" system of qualifications.
mircea_popescu: you get you call your expert
to say so, if you can find one
mircea_popescu: there is no such "known".
that's
the point of
the experts.
mircea_popescu: there's an array of "possible explanations", including
that women do in some cases actually naturally conserve sperm.
mircea_popescu: i didn't witness it per se, it was just "the
talk fo
the
town" so
to speak. at least among a certain set.
mircea_popescu: it was a horror ;
the baby was born iirc 13 months after
the man's demise and
their dna matched.