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phf: well, there is the wot, though nobody here as far as i know is buying/selling. there was also bitcoin-otc, which from what i hear died. i actually tried buying 10btc from a guy that was in bitcoin-otc wot, but we were l3, and he understandably bulked ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mats: Well gotta explain the problem in layers. First is people. Next is substance. Then...
phf: probably what thestringpuller means is that "we" (he's speaking to a bunch of reddit anons, so i assume it's purely rhetorical) don't have a wot based market.
phf: Framedragger: i was saying hawala as an alternative to bitcoin. that was when we were looking closely at the implementation and finding all kinds of insanity. hawala is a system for tracking long term exposure, and you forego collateral because you have "fuck same woman" wot (i suspect there's still collateral involved when exposure is too high). you don't need hawal when you have near instant calls. ☟︎
mats: i'd be disappointed if that made its way into qntra
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell covertress You gotta get other parties WoT'd up for your press releases to make it to media distribution.
a111: 653 results for "\"in the log\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22in%20the%20log%22
Framedragger: $s "in the log"
a111: Logged on 2016-04-04 16:22 phf: given the state of things, i'm not convinced that hawala is the worst we can do
a111: Logged on 2016-08-13 19:28 thestringpuller: more ver-ified lulz: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4xj6uw/bitcoin_previously_had_all_the_properties_that/d6fw4ns
Framedragger: implied tags will bring us satan, true, but eh
danielpbarron: unmatched trailing end tag detected
a111: Logged on 2016-08-14 17:11 covertress: this is why blue to me is green to you
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-14#1521460 << this to me seems to be a confusion between metaphysical and epistemological relativism. "what green is to me" is more to do with the latter, and cannot be used to support full-blown idealism (as in berkeley), or "there are multiple universes", or anything else which has specific *metaphysical* commitments. ☝︎
covertress waves goodbye to mircea_popescu and leaves also
covertress: nos vemos más tarde
mircea_popescu: anyway, i shall go festejar el dia de "lxs ninxs" con las trabajadoras sexuales in constitucion, "barrio donde por la niche muchos no desean transitar".
covertress: not everyone is ready to be the center of their own universe, this is true
mircea_popescu: well aa folks are kinda stuck with this god-but-its-not-god thing...
danielpbarron: pantheists and other new-agey stuff too
covertress: danielpbarron: the only time I hear "universe" confused with 'god' is from AA members.
danielpbarron: pass me the bong when you're done babysitting it, wouldja?
covertress: this is why blue to me is green to you ☟︎
covertress: at the same time, I think that everyone is within their own universe
danielpbarron: i don't even care for the term universe; it's usually used as a replacement for God, personified and everything ala "the universe did X"
covertress: I'm of the opinion that there is only one universe
mircea_popescu: covertress traditionally theories are not believed or disbelieved ; that's more of a religious practice.
covertress: belief in the theory that multiple universes exist
covertress: in this sense > http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/af/afec866f59e4c60209e0c3ef8a5ad25be8038bcec717a1d5f7a759f6f857c832.jpg
danielpbarron: multiverse is a contradiction in terms. a universe is already one everything. whatever you call a "multi"-verse is really the whole "uni"-verse redefined
asciilifeform: covertress: what does this question even mean? believe-in as a place to which you can walk in, via some yet-undiscovered magic door ?
mircea_popescu: you mean, in everett's gun sense so dear to alf's heart ?
asciilifeform: didjaknow this was possible.
mircea_popescu: Bey Once. you know, the singin' an' bootyshaking lord of the lordship of once.
mircea_popescu: country of africaman, has internet, has not map, has not perl, has not way to make lists, has no countrylist datastructure, has nothing.
mircea_popescu: on't add me. Thanks for your corporation.. Your satisfaction is what we want. I will be expecting your reply. Just add and inbox me and I will help you to become a member of the great Illuminati.Thanks once again I am Bella Wilfred and your happiness is what we want."
mircea_popescu: on just add and message me..and if you are in Kenya, south Africa, Tanzania,India,Zambia, Ghana, don't add me... Because I can't help you. I can't help you if you are from those country. But if you are in the USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, NIGERIA,Nether land, Poland, and if you are in European and Asia country and so on you can also add me let's talk and I will help you be a member... Once again if you are not serious d
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, "I am here to help you become rich and famous.. If you are not serious in becoming a member please don't even think of adding me or sending me a message because I won't be happy with you.but if you know you are serious and ready to become a member just add me now let's talk and let's get to know each other more better. If you wanna be famous like rihanna, jazzy, Eminem,rick Ross, Lil Wayne, bey once and so
covertress: have you tried Ancho Chili? wonderful flavor yet mild.
covertress: try a trad red bell pepper next to a ghost chili. ;)
mircea_popescu: that's a thought.
covertress: I grow my own Japapenos next to Jabaneros, so they cross-polinate and become hotter.
mircea_popescu: delicious things, not even hot. barely flavoured one pot.
mircea_popescu: you should see these people. i bought two hot peppers, they sold them with nuclear warhead warnings.
covertress: the more flavorful, the better
mircea_popescu: tho i couldn't be arsed to make it anymore than cazu marzu.
mircea_popescu: i just don't like cooking the barbarian stuff.
mircea_popescu: ah, not so simple as all that. depends what mood i wake up in et all.
covertress: mircea_popescu yes, there is an art to timing the meal. comes with practice.
mircea_popescu: covertress yeah ok, but say shrimp needs 40 seconds ; veal maybe 70 ? whereas the mushrooms five fucking minutes or w/e.
covertress: mircea_popescu, you never eat this way at home? always go out?
mircea_popescu: though in general this is the job of the god damned cook, which is why i don't eat just anywhere.
mircea_popescu: ~the only thing i liked about it was that the meat was cut very thin and you could hold-cook it to a very fine degree.
mircea_popescu: isn't that overcrowded ?
mircea_popescu: you distinguish between these ?
mats: 'hot pot' is a thing, but i've not seen a chinese place with hot plates unless they're also korean fusion or something
mircea_popescu: granted, more of a yi thing.
covertress: Japanese do this also, with a central-table soup pot everyone shares.
mircea_popescu: this is everyfucking where heh. but sure, in the coupla blocks of ba that constitute the "china town", between a kitchy gate and two dragon statues.
mircea_popescu: you never saw this ?
mircea_popescu: there's a hot plate built in the table to cook your own meat
mircea_popescu: mats no. you sit down, they ask what kind of WINE you want if any ; and then they bring you 30 plates
covertress: here is some news for TMSR, before it hits the press > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WuZNZ2uPB2kFPzzQ-e3vBfJIP2bT8Gu1--6UxWepxCg/edit?usp=sharing
covertress waves hello to mircea_popescu
mats: i've never been to the chinese restaurant where they just bring you stuff
mircea_popescu: in any case it is much better to have food, kill you slowly and the quod me nutrit bridge than just repeat 餐飲 until you fall down and then be worshipped as a very wise man - hey, 5k yo wisdom "directly applicable" today.
mircea_popescu: mno. to kill the symbologists, rather.
asciilifeform: set up, if you like, the huffman table.
asciilifeform: well sorta why they invented language, to explain the symbols with.
mircea_popescu: anyway. a large part of the problem with "i think better in symbols" is exactly evident here : sure, you think you do, much like dude in bathtub feels he's going faster. nevertheless YOU CANT FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT YOU THOUGHT.
asciilifeform: ever meet somebody with hilariously 'wrong' chinese tattoo ?
asciilifeform: 'it said right on the box...'!
mircea_popescu: maybe you misread the labels.
asciilifeform: hey krok does exactly what is printed on the box.
asciilifeform: e.g., considerably less reluctant to sell you product that will actually slowly kill you.
mircea_popescu: moreover, this is exactly their first run in with first world problems. there's no history to go by.
asciilifeform: i am familiar with some of the ways in which 'stranger.'
mircea_popescu: the problem is russians are, for all their ridiculous orcishness, still white people.
asciilifeform: ^ atrocious and nearly indecipherable 'dictionary translation'
a111: 1 results for "when you care enough to steal the very best", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=when%20you%20care%20enough%20to%20steal%20the%20very%20best
asciilifeform: $s when you care enough to steal the very best
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't go as far as that. but not entirely unfamiliar.
asciilifeform: so mircea_popescu is familiar with the process. and output.
asciilifeform: thing is, i know a bit about orcish 'ip theft' business, father spent most of his life doing just it.
mircea_popescu: you ever been in one of these btw ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well, this is chinese restaurant. they don't do al a carte, they just bring you stuff.
asciilifeform: this is the thing i'd dearly like to see die
asciilifeform: not to mention pulling in a multi-GB closed turdball x86 toolchain.
asciilifeform: but the cost is - using american design. which is subtly braindamaged in 1,001 ways, not all of them even deliberate.
mircea_popescu: but htey'll sell this. to you. for 20 bux.
asciilifeform: they already pay 0 license (in most cases, there are idiots in china also)
mircea_popescu: sure. it'll take a while to dissolve. maybe even... a coupla decades ?
mircea_popescu: it's not expected this iteration will yield "better pci". merely - pci that you don't pay the license for.
asciilifeform: the sheer 'lock-in' of the niche, is mind-boggling to the uninitiated
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to briefly revisit thread, one interesting tidbit you might not know about 'hardcopy fpga' is that it stands on same toolchain as the respective vendor's 'ordinary' fpga (on which one prototypes for the 'hard' variant.)
mircea_popescu: it's a much larger and more complex task like that ; best get the small discrete tip sorted out first.
shinohai: I decided to stuff the whole thing in an .img file so you don't have to reinvent the whole server wheel every time
mircea_popescu: o yeah how's that monster project coming along shinohai ?
shinohai: ben_vulpes: i didn't have to do anything to get it all to work besides diff and apply phf 's patch and directions
asciilifeform: and that.