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asciilifeform: http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-time-that-the-us-turned-an-olympic-village-into-a-prison << lulzy. e.g., 'If prison construction in urban and suburban areas triggered not-in-my-backyard backlash, prison construction in rural areas, and upstate New York in particular, became seen as an economic development solution. According to officials of the local antipoverty program, half of Essex County households survived on an income
BingoBoingo: Well lovage breeds trollage
mircea_popescu: also totally trollage.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> heh. aaand a trb node is at height 419220 for absolutely no reason ; 50+ connections, stable etc. << did this get fixed? or is it stuck at that same block still?
pete_dushenski: http://www.usglassmag.com/2016/07/breaking-ppg-sells-assets-of-flat-glass-business-to-vitro/ << nuts. mehicanos snap up 100+yo us glass business. not even trump's wall can stop pesos from being launched over the border.
shinohai: probably because in rush I forgot proper tags
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i seem to recall that kako was 'audiophile', which lends some credence to your theory
BingoBoingo: trinque: If feed on personal blog fucks up feel free to remove. Updates atm are infrequent enough to manually drop.
asciilifeform: removal thereof.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 22:31 mircea_popescu: sure, they could. what's keeping them from propagating into "your" transformer ? will github ban them if they don't respect notions of propriety ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522921 << veblenism (e.g., audiophilia, homeopathy, etc.) is a disease caused by idiot coming into possession of money. and there is only ONE cure. ☝︎
trinque: nbd, just saw it while in there
BingoBoingo: trinque: Thing will likely be staticified at some point. Tis the juggler's ball of least concern.
trinque: BingoBoingo: thedrinkingrecord.com/feed/ is shitting mysql errors
mircea_popescu: oh, the item simply doesn't exist down here.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: axe, like you know... I axed this dude for some horseradish
mircea_popescu: one mp-wp to rule them all and in the darkness diddle them or how did that go.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: hey cool. i'll look into that.
BingoBoingo: ^ mircea_popescu All you need to do is axe
BingoBoingo: <trinque> your thing shat non-ascii << AHA, pete_dushenski's rss has long been the bane of town crier bots
pete_dushenski: ie. 'let's sprinkle some crack on this nigger and get outta here'
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 14:45 asciilifeform: so now the octopus tendrils proclaim, that he died of dope, http://publicaddress.net/speaker/the-uncomfortable-silence
shinohai: my twitter bot died bcuz new link first schema
trinque: well mine's easily fixed; however, I'm putting it here show that this is the kind of moron busywork that comes of taking something like RSS as bedrock
pete_dushenski: qntra too ?
trinque: xml way of doing this is &#666;
trinque: your thing shat non-ascii
pete_dushenski: trinque: what am i looking at there ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 01:35 mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: pleased to report that 99994k spins up on deb7 without fuss. only comment would be on 'trb-howto' to suggest '-lows' command when booting bitcoind for the first time. << hey! Thanks for testing that!
mircea_popescu: sure, they could. what's keeping them from propagating into "your" transformer ? will github ban them if they don't respect notions of propriety ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't get this nonsensical theory. “Electromagnetic interference from appliances being used by neighbors could propagate through a shared transformer and have an audible effect. That’s not an unreasonable thing.”
trinque: pete_dushenski: UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xbb' in position 52: ordinal not in range(128) << rss is supposed to be xml, hence ascii
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 01:00 asciilifeform: soooo why is taleb on 'medium'..?
mircea_popescu: wtf is that crazy bloodshit.
asciilifeform: (in usa, 'audiophiles' at least occasionally do things that make physical sense, e.g., install doubleconverter ups.)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 22:12 trinque begins to drink
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522894 << he has a point, at that. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 22:20 pete_dushenski: sonal transformer—that thing shaped like a cylindrical metal garbage can—which feeds power more directly from the grid.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522908 << lel, and to think, i get this fir phreeeee ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/08/buterins-previous-waterfall-exposed/ << actually this was lolled about at conference 1 iirc.
pete_dushenski: sonal transformer—that thing shaped like a cylindrical metal garbage can—which feeds power more directly from the grid.' ☟︎
pete_dushenski: 'The 82-year-old lawyer already had a $60,000 American-made amplifier, 1960s German loudspeakers that once belonged to a theater, Japanese audio cables threaded with gold and silver, and other pricey equipment. Normal electricity just wouldn’t do anymore. To tap into what Mr. Morita calls “pure” power, he paid $10,000 to plant a 40-foot-tall concrete pole in his front yard. On it perches his own per
pete_dushenski: plus, it's not deedbot's fault that rss is weird.
pete_dushenski: trinque: ftr, i appreciate your contributions. goodness knows you save me the effort of manually dropping contravex links in here myself. plus authing! and searching! /me would be up shitcreek sans paddle w/o deedbot.
trinque begins to drink ☟︎
trinque: y'know, I publish to date the simplest ball of code ever to IRC-bot and all you people want me to do is polish some w3c dumbshit's standard
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: good chunk of folk went through entire ww2 with a suspended death sentence, because there was elementarily no replacement for them.
asciilifeform: this is the other 'every culture worth mention' bit.
BingoBoingo: But is deedbot RSS reading a lookout post or is it a town crier?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i dun think you get to shoot deedbot until replacement shows up.
pete_dushenski: but that falling asleep at one's lookout post is punishable by death has been sop from day one in most every culture worth the mention. even canada.
BingoBoingo: Well, then you gotta petition the peerage.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-14 14:32 mircea_popescu: "resident ; show income of one bitcoin ; or holdings of twenty bitcoin ; may vote"
BingoBoingo: Wait what feifdom does pete_dushenski hold to decide offenses, much less capital ones?
pete_dushenski: ^contained therein is a translation project for readers of 'traditional' chinese script. my connex seem to think it's gibberish, but 'moar eyez halp' (tm) (r)
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2016/08/16/cn-sms-mitm/ << because deedbot fell asleep on the lookout tower, a capital offence!
mircea_popescu: well no, jurov compiles the client for windows with something ; iirc llvm also worked.
asciilifeform will have usable measurements, packaged with code which produced them, by end of month.
asciilifeform: speaking of this, where did we leave off there
mircea_popescu: nevertheless - we're fortunate, in that the job for eulora is for rsa only.
mircea_popescu: there's a time for that. some spaces really could do without a lot of cruft.
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu can probably tell, i really loathe publishing half-cooked items.
asciilifeform: i suppose i ought to dust off an' publish the 'p' demo.
mircea_popescu: i'd like to leave this matter open for further thinking.
mircea_popescu: at the cost of what, carrying the implementation i nthe key ?
asciilifeform: or if he wants to use sha512 on thursdays and keccak on tuesdays, also can.
asciilifeform: e.g., if mircea_popescu wants to use a hash algo of his own design, with ben_vulpes's pgptron, he can.
mircea_popescu: but this isn't current situation.
mircea_popescu: now asciilifeform if cs were well specified and well understood from usage ; i wouldn't be against making "key" ambiguous as to which of rsa, cs it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had two arguments. one is that it dramatically simplifies the design of the cryptotron. (essentially becomes a mildly scriptable bignum calculator.) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: just make new keys, why carry along the twin headed eagle of austria.
mircea_popescu: should we tomorrow move to cs crypto, there'd be no reason to "upgrade" "extant" rsa keys.
asciilifeform: incidentally usg is so mortally afraid of reconfigurable crypto that it is SPECIFICALLY banned in the export ban list.
mircea_popescu: yes, but i suspect we solve all that through not including idiocy in the spec.
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: and i would propose this as an example of the pernicious effects of category 3 of bad stuff selfsig did. it made people think "key" is "identity". when in fact it's algo->key.
asciilifeform: problem is that key handling mechanisms tend to get baked in.
mircea_popescu: yeah, been thinking about that. my current idea on the topic being - that it's stupid to do THAT, because the key is subnode not overnode of algo.
mircea_popescu: so then. i dunno anything cleanner than this, myself.
asciilifeform: including, recall, even ability to specify a new crypto algo in the key itself.
asciilifeform: i've favoured a maximally-configurable design for quite some time.
asciilifeform: 'who are these people and wtf do you care what happens to them.'
mircea_popescu: moreover, asciilifeform , the design doesn't PREVENT me from signing my own fp and publishing the fp - e,N,c set so signed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd rather detach the "waht use is phuctor" from current discussion.
trinque: asciilifeform: that wasn't known before it ran though.
mircea_popescu: this is an argument no different from "oh but mp, why http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/ it will just increase the "activity levels" on site". i'm sure it will.
asciilifeform: consider, not 1 of the popped keys belongs to a 'human' in the sense of somebody we know via wot.
asciilifeform: in this case what is the use of phuctor ?
mircea_popescu: we do that across the board. help it feed hurts it.
asciilifeform: we aren't here to serve the idiots. but why help the meat grinder feed ?
asciilifeform: well mircea_popescu can specify 'i dun care what happens to the 10,001' idiots
mircea_popescu: but we're not here to serve the consumer. we're here to make things right.
mircea_popescu: the "noob can't think" argument can be used by me too, you know.
asciilifeform: aha. nearly all of it is predicated on broken pgptrons that don't check sigs.
mircea_popescu: lol. hence all the stuff on phuctor.
asciilifeform: if i substitute mp@nsa.gov for the polimedia.us, selfsig barfs.
mircea_popescu: he is currently free to do that already.
asciilifeform: he is now free to distribute 10,001 mutated copies of mircea_popescu's key, with user id 'mp@really-mp-bunker.com' and chumps, who were never properly introduced to mp in meatspace, will send mail to this addr, where it will be transparently forwarded to mp with new headers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you take an inch from enemy, but give him many more: ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not that you couldn't overload it horribly ("if this statement is signed by lkfjl5k shoot obama ; if it is signed by 3k4j5lkj54 shoot trump"signed) means what ?