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mircea_popescu: conceivably the technology improved since the 70s, but anyway. i like pills, they give the girls proper hormonal cycles. why shouldn't she pms ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 12:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628626 << i don't see this at all. if you fuck a woman "normally" and she's not on the pill, you will obtain 8 kids in 10 years. you will also obtain an extremely shriveled woman, because like it or not females are essentially the cotyledon of children. biology is merciless and the ultimate empire, it dun care one whit your girl is smart and pleasant and worships you, it just cares to push o
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 07:21 davout: in other TRB news, my node is happily bitcoining, doesn't seem too bothered by working with a regular HDD, and that's without asciilifeform's cache patch
mircea_popescu: mmm, this isn't really true is it.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-17 06:08 trinque: regarding the pill, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's had a profound impact on female behavior.
mircea_popescu: nah. sultans who were porphyrogenited so to speak don't. gengis khan, who is basically a sort of dewey cox, does.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628626 << how many offspring has buffett? trump? etc. ? why do you suppose? because can't afford? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-17#1628626 << i don't see this at all. if you fuck a woman "normally" and she's not on the pill, you will obtain 8 kids in 10 years. you will also obtain an extremely shriveled woman, because like it or not females are essentially the cotyledon of children. biology is merciless and the ultimate empire, it dun care one whit your girl is smart and pleasant and worships you, it just cares to push o ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: heck, should be parenting 101. "baby, don't fall LIKE THAT. fall like this, look" and there she goes, plop on the carpet.
davout: in other TRB news, my node is happily bitcoining, doesn't seem too bothered by working with a regular HDD, and that's without asciilifeform's cache patch ☟︎
trinque: regarding the pill, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's had a profound impact on female behavior. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: think for a moment lol. wtf, nuke plant doesn't put out 1pw
ben_vulpes: people don't immediately make friends with the largest animal in the room?
mircea_popescu: nah. contrary to popular imagination, domestic tigers aren't particularly ferocious.
asciilifeform: i mean, who the hell cares if ru court indicts somebody. spain, germany, etc. won't extradite to ru.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 22:55 mircea_popescu: yeah, i have nfi why teh putin isn't flooding the usg with red notices for usgtards.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-16#1628501 << same reason why people don't bite mosquitoes back. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ok. THAT's exclusive. not because it's expensive but because you can't fucking get it.
pete_dushenski: dunno why anyone would pose with grey goose that wasn't 10l either
pete_dushenski: s/it's/isn't
pete_dushenski: grey goose has normal unflavoured variants. in mega-bottles (>2l) isn't the only 'flavour' available afaik
mircea_popescu: they really gotta hfcs all the things, don't they. it's not enough the difference between beer and fanta is the label. now gotta fuck up the liquors too don't they
mircea_popescu: yeah, i have nfi why teh putin isn't flooding the usg with red notices for usgtards. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lmao, the libertards are nao in "plox don't expect evidence for that trump-russia thing" mutual grooming mode.
davout: ben_vulpes: looks like the a380 doesn't have purely mechanical backups, which makes sense, only electric ones: http://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scholz/dglr/hh/text_2007_09_27_A380_Flight_Controls.pdf
ben_vulpes: precisely so that losing power doesn't mean instadeath
ben_vulpes: don't the megaplanes do the trick with the tiny flap that actuates the effecting flap?
davout: i somehow just don't see it
davout: ben_vulpes: i think some don't
davout: first: don't die immediately by recovering the aircraft
davout: tl;dr: don't fuck with A380s
mircea_popescu: you can't prune my chain. you can only prune yours.
davout: trinque: basically your point, which seems absolutely valid, is that past a certain depth you simply can't do a reorg, right?
mircea_popescu: bitcoin really doesn't have that many nodes active, nor has, for a while now.
mircea_popescu: "txn don't match what i have"
trinque: can't even say they ~ever~ were a part of bitcoin
trinque: whole thing doesn't even have to be SSD; I routinely shuffle off chunks of bdb to platters
asciilifeform: it's precisely how all successful usgizations went -- slow, frogboiling replacement of a protocolic guarantee with a promisetronic one that is Just As Good (until it isn't, at which point you're long fucked)
mircea_popescu: to which the only sane lucentio answer is "fu, i own them, and if you don't like it ask me."
mircea_popescu: and this situation you wish to replace with "because we say so, and if you don';t like it ask another one of us".
trinque: surely that wasn't 'every clever kid wants a fish to eat and a cock to sit upon' ?
davout: google translate doesn't exactly help: "et le poisson à manger, et assis sur la bite"
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure what the thought process is here, beyond "i don't want to store books because momstate makes libraries and oh, where did anything but cosmo go ?!"
asciilifeform: davout: if you aren't storing the historical data, you are not a peer. you are a pseudonode.
davout: doesn't really matter where you get it from, as long as it verifies, you're not asking your connected peers for a wot identity, yet you take their data and verify it independently
mircea_popescu: if you can't verify at will, you can't verify.
asciilifeform: davout: what does 'verify' mean if you can't trace the coins from birth to current day ?
mircea_popescu: the defense to something stupid isn't picking something else that's stupid to be yelled at top of lungs.
davout: your copy of the blockchain being personal i don't see any other problem than peer-service, if, and only if, you've validated it as validly producing the UTXO set you consider valid
mircea_popescu: davout in principle nothing ; in practice if you can't justify whence the coins came then what do you have
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr didn't have "dev" talk on her list and who else read that shithole lol.
asciilifeform: 'The list of all used transactions isn't readily available, and once pruning shows up, it might not even exist at all. So, it only makes sense to compare the new coinbase to the list of transaction hashes that are unspent at the time ... ' << holy fuck the 1) idiocy 2) nobody challenged it, afaik
ben_vulpes: don't get me wrong, responding in context is entirely adequate most of the time
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: sorry for being obtuse, but if by 'show signature' you mean print signature in ascii-armored way, why can't you `echo 'foo' | gpg --clearsign > a.txt`, then `cat a.txt | gpg --encrypt --recipient recipient-username > b.bin`, then `gpg --decrypt b.bin`? (this assumes gpg is interactive and will ask for password, so best to break it into multiple commands)
ben_vulpes: i didn't understand his shovelful, is all
Framedragger: wasn't sure what you were trying to do, sorry - you want to first decrypt a message, *then* check signature - but check how beyond 'signature is good'?
asciilifeform: natively gpg doesn't even ~carry~ the notion of 'for this set, Message, Signature, Pubkey, say if well-formed'
mircea_popescu: there's reasons we don't like the sign-and-encrypt bs.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 18:26 davout: in case where A was ~never~ spent, after a block containing its reintroduction gets reorg'd, it can't ~ever~ be spent
davout: i didn't see this "has to be spent before reappear"
davout: in case where A was ~never~ spent, after a block containing its reintroduction gets reorg'd, it can't ~ever~ be spent ☟︎
davout: wouldn't it consider the reintroduction as "already spent" ?
asciilifeform: oh hah it was right there wasn't it.
asciilifeform: because it was built by somebody who was dropped as a baby, and uses tx id as if it were guaranteed unique, then turns around and 'oops, they aren't, but it doesn't matter Because Reasons'
davout: you can't have this in bitcoin is all i'm saying
asciilifeform: simply by not catering to the patently idiotic expectation of being able to spend the output of a tx that hasn't been mined yet.
davout: i don't particularly care, just wondering about "you can do it with a system otherwise identical to traditional bitcoin"
asciilifeform: and yes that means they have to live in a block, that you're reasonably sure won't be orphaned.
davout: don't see how, as far as i know you can't craft a tx without providing the tx of its parents
asciilifeform: davout: it doesn't even require the cask scheme
asciilifeform: it's a textbook mircea_popescuan tv-raft. 'can't fix the problem, That Would Be Wrong, have a raft made of your tv to float on;
asciilifeform: so a prb user can be fucked during sync, so long as the fuckblock fed to him isn't numbered 91842 or 91880 ...
asciilifeform: can't show provenance for all unspents.
asciilifeform: you just have a 'i can't believe it's not bitcoin' rather than bitcoin.
asciilifeform: it doesn't fall, as such
mircea_popescu: you're a fine gent, standing on a pile of "because so and so, the sky is falling." "well... i don't see it fallen" "show me why not!"
mircea_popescu: except no, you don't, not irl.
asciilifeform: but it isn't hard to do otherwise, just recycle old coinbase
mircea_popescu: and then he wants to re-introduce original. but he can't. because doublespent.
asciilifeform: it doesn't doublespend 50*
mircea_popescu: he'd be doing this by himself as block 60 (really, why all the 0s ? you need them for something ?) which doublespends block 50 won't be accepted by eg me.
asciilifeform: did we have this thread before ? ( doesn't seem to turn up )
mircea_popescu: gavin wasn't very high on chain validation hurr.
asciilifeform: ^ do you see a check for previous existence here, mircea_popescu ? because i don't...
asciilifeform: which it where it gets interesting, because the 'can fail' doesn't seem to exist in the code:
mircea_popescu: so restate. and also spare me specifications that c ain't b, obviously it isn't, if it were you'd call it b.
mircea_popescu: do you mean, "it removes transaction entirely but it doesn't nor could correcty undo the damage to the ball of yarn" ?
asciilifeform: sooo per my reckoning, you can have sane-trb-indexer, but now every tx gotta have a field for 'was replaced?' -- and if bit is set, indexer goes and looks at the collision table, the previous lookup now 'didn't count'
asciilifeform: it isn't ever a solution, to anything !
mircea_popescu: other than the hope "they won't be many" (recall the naive oh, if we need we just add more digits after decimal ? hurr. you fucking don't.)
asciilifeform: and i don't mean trb
asciilifeform: it doesn't look to be fixable.
mircea_popescu: which don't discuss "worry, for or against". they discuss "worry, lulz" and other things.
mircea_popescu: fucking female state doesn't get to set the agenda for the discussion.
mircea_popescu: it dun work. why would i have qntra do it again ? i know it doesn't work.
asciilifeform: i won't argue ' asciilifeform knows Moar Fact from reading völkischer beobachter than mircea_popescu from spy network ', that'd be riotously stupid
mircea_popescu: this independent mind trick dun work so well in vacuums, most people aren't nearly imaginative enough to pull it off.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu had said 'you won't learn the mechanics of su collapse by reading pravda or decrees of politburo' i would grudgingly agree
mircea_popescu: understand how consequences work : you can't at the same time "oh, nobody even told be item from my field of interest" and "oh i see from anthill". either you do or you don't, and broadly speaking i guess you don't.
asciilifeform: all i got is the view from inside the anthill. where mr.t's buttons are in fact not connected to anything, because apparently even the lowliest judicial bureaucrat can 'suspend' all of his decrees for whatever fictional 'reasons'.