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mircea_popescu: and the brain is in no sense and to no degree a logic processing machine.
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't mean they're not the same damned function.
mircea_popescu: if one function returns rnd(0,15) and the other rnd(20,42) it is easy to establish which returns the larger number,
mircea_popescu: undata the argument mind, isn't that some eliza-trees don't make much better looking reality-clothes than others.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you a current dreaming it's frying a butterfgly etc
mircea_popescu: so, yeah. all thinkers are eliza, the distinguishing among elizas, like among whores, purely an application of one's own aesthetic preference.
mircea_popescu: you can test them, of course, but this is practically speaking aesthetics.
mircea_popescu: well, the reason might be that there couldn't be such a thing. there's nothing that makes "good science" better than a pile of shanonized papers.
mircea_popescu: what is the method through which i could write software that distinguishes between actual science and global-warming-science ?
mircea_popescu: not every whore is a partner you'd entertain, but that has little to do with the principles involved.
mircea_popescu: undata if you will. asciilifeform yes, essentially, which is why the microscope hammer thing never persuaded me.
mircea_popescu: the ability of whores to distinguish themselves from "those cheap streetwalkers" is not that important globally.
mircea_popescu: if you recognise a naive romanticism in one field, the other should also be obvious.
mircea_popescu: and, obviously, fucking. ie, a manipulation of the subject according to the rules of the reality it inhabits.
mircea_popescu: outside of this, all that's left is eliza-understanding.
mircea_popescu: the sort of understanding you propose is a relationship between mind and object that's transcendental. the ready comparison is the supposed transcendental relation between man and woman.
mircea_popescu: so : your idea of understanding would be in fact "transformative love". ie, it'd give you the ability to turn, if not marble into virgin, at least whore into housewife.
mircea_popescu: let us not discuss this in terms of understanding, something we care about. let us instead discuss in terms of love, something we don't care about.
mircea_popescu: it is NEVER the case anyone ever understood anything whatsoever in any case at any point in human history
mircea_popescu: 'It follows that he cannot know that certain people at certain times do not understand in Parry-or Eliza-like ways. That is to say, he has no way of knowing that we do not ourselves sometimes function by means of "clever tricks".' actually, i will go as far as to say that it is always certainly the case understanding happens through "clever tricks"
mircea_popescu: of course it does, but so ? energy states in a semiconductor also conflict, in the abstract
mircea_popescu: they don't know how to compute whether x option ios better than y option in any situation, but they do know you don't just walk into mordor
mircea_popescu: basically, to teach a muppet something you must construct a literary work which jives with the preexisting dreamworld he inhabits
mircea_popescu: will ONLY learn from fiction, inasmuch as they find a way to link it to their own fiction.
mircea_popescu: imo, they're 4th level learners. will not learn from thought ; nor from other
mircea_popescu: not that it's false, but they're not women. so... how ?
mircea_popescu: if this is true, how did they come to the conclusion women dislike being raped ?
mircea_popescu: and i couldn't get out of bed without 5000 "hey mp, what do you think of this toaster" "is bitcoin going up i must know because of my 0.05 btcent investment!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the best of all worlds, tbh. i'd get really pissy in short order if reddit actually knew what's what
mircea_popescu: myeah. and this matters, because the non-wot world is like, totally a world and anything, and what happens outside of b-a ctually happens, and non-notarized documents actually carry weight and everything
mircea_popescu: because why report, right, there's all these fucktards that need to wonder "what mainstream nobody agrees with mp", as if that's the fucking criteria nao, we vote for knowledge.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something tells me i won't be getting the "mp's blog, first place to announce tor is shit, a year or so ago" all over the "tech" "press". just like i didn't get the "mp forces wikileaks to release unedited cables by publishing the romanian subset" a few years back
mircea_popescu: course, when i said so last year the derps went on derping, but why would the derps count here.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 it didn't take this long, that tor was routinely compromised was an open secret.
mircea_popescu: im not even sure whats more ridiculous, the rednecks or the mainstream.
mircea_popescu: dude, topless chicks being a big deal, you already know you must be in ameristan
mircea_popescu: some sort of insane clown o nm that's what icp means huh
mircea_popescu: in fact, the usg seems moreover its prey than anything.
mircea_popescu: i guess we could call it "marketing" for lack of terminology.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only tech left that works in the english speaking world is the tech that manipulates this at first view pathological "one way belonging" thing.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos the bizarre part is that they somehow manage to seek it in imagination.
mircea_popescu: i mean, it used to be the case for children. but biological adults today are psychologically infantile, and this is by very far the most obvious effect.
mircea_popescu: the way people today construct their mental representations of groups and belonging is nothing short of mindblowing.
mircea_popescu: You don't know. If your dad needs money, go ask Mickey Mantle. See what happens. Mickey Mantle don't care about you. Why care about him? Nobody cares.
mircea_popescu: Mickey Mantle? That's what you're upset about? Mantle makes $ a year. How much does your father make?
mircea_popescu: Bill Mazeroski, I hate him. He made Mickey Mantle cry. The papers said the Mick cried.
mircea_popescu: Come over here. Sit next to me. You must be pretty upset after the Yankees lost.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but see that it actually "serves", depending how you put the goals on the table
mircea_popescu: it's almost like watching a cell react in an infection, all sorts of bizarro mechanisms that you don't even dare declare exist seem to work in werido ways.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, the anthropology of this thing has been an endless source of fascination to me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jeffidiocy manages to keep idiots with benefits away from bitcoin altogether.
mircea_popescu: in short, there's a very deep valley between "windows user who thinks himself into bitcoin because he recognises the term" and "bitcoin user".
mircea_popescu: 99% of bitcoin users, according to what people think, use windows.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> well the only remarkable thing is that, with the profusion of winblows users, coins are not yet wandering off into usg wallets en masse. <<< reddit is not, contrary to what it tells itself, relevant to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: back then it was a big deal, wallets being unencrypted.
mircea_popescu: iirc that's when the first windows wallet stealer trojan was reported.