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mircea_popescu: i have this baby in bathwater obsession, myself. "teaching the controversy" is just americanized, which is to say, "cut into bits and rubbed in shit" hegelian dialectics.
mircea_popescu: it just has to be a controversy between actual people.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, there's a lot of value to teaching the controversy.
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mircea_popescu: i propose in this case "not participation" is punching some blind twerp right in the face.
mircea_popescu: when some kid is annoying you don't pick up and leave, you punch him in the nose.
mircea_popescu: except this'd be th every definition of not being people. if they were people they'd do something else for a living.
mircea_popescu: "have some empathy for the people who want to take a shit on the collected effort of the people you happen to respect! they're people too!"
mircea_popescu: if you were a cock - which you obviously are not bwahhhaha i need a minute here lmao - if you were a cock
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's not just "gather enough filth in one place"
mircea_popescu: i mean, the "other speeds more important to us" thing is nowhere near.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform have you ever seen something this idiotic ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah well, at some point im gotta have to insult some unfortunate bystanding trashbag or something, or else collapse into A = A circularity.
mircea_popescu: someone should make a bitbet about it, i'd throw a few cents.
mircea_popescu: anyway, seems to me clear teh usg-debian believes it got the votes
mircea_popescu: let's fucking "value each other's" banana peels and sing koombaya.
mircea_popescu: five fucking centuries of european intellectual heritate, which is the exactly ONLY reason the US even exists in the first place, down the drain. "We wanna be africans now. Hold hands."
mircea_popescu: and then driveby's have the unmitigated audacity to discuss #b-a cult-ness. how do you like that!
mircea_popescu: the point of discussion is not to discover the wrong alternatives, or the right alternatives.
mircea_popescu: There isn't a right answer. As Russ has explained a number of times in the TC, on debian-vote and on his blog, this is about tradeoffs. I'm sure some people will be happy if the project's values are aligned with theirs. When they take that as far as saying the project made the "right decision" or rejected "bad options," they are not valuing the contributions of those who disagreed with them.
mircea_popescu: no but srsly, that letter is an exact summary of everything that's wrong with the english language space.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing to save here. just burn the entire stack where it stands an' that's that.
mircea_popescu: fuckign to-feeling arguments in THE MOTHERFUCKING DEBIAN LISTS.
mircea_popescu: im completely unclear as to why the fuck usg wants the "one computer system" so badly anyway.
mircea_popescu: sam hartman is a 30something nobody, roughly speaking a debian gmaxwell
mircea_popescu: then a few years later windows migrated to "kerberos" as its primary security protocol
mircea_popescu: the gutted thing was reimplemented by some nordic country university
mircea_popescu: decimation kerberos was developed by mit in the 80s. a gutted export version was created. as the usg was going to (again) change its export restriction in 2000,
mircea_popescu: perhaps an instructive case study as to how usg protocol confiscation works in the field.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i'm the only one privy to the history of that protocol ?
mircea_popescu: but to also steal the farmer's "having being stolen from"
mircea_popescu: this is the ultimate theft, these people are trying to introduce into the world. they wish to steal not merely the farmer's cow,
mircea_popescu: "oh, so you want to wear pants ? fuck you, you're wearing a skirt.
mircea_popescu: considered even when we end up strongly disagreeing with them or valuing
mircea_popescu: reassure them that they are valued and respected and their concerns
mircea_popescu: "I'm hoping that we can all take a few minutes to gain empathy for those who disagree with us." << derping about "empathy" -> straight to the uranium mines.
mircea_popescu: who wants to work in an environment of "compassion" ? what are these people, retards ?
mircea_popescu: "Today, now, before the results are announced, we have an opportunity to extend compassion and empathy and remind ourselves of the spirit in which we'd like to work together." << lmao fuck that.
mircea_popescu: technologically it's about as notable as windows notepad, but sociologically... wow, ze goldmine.
mircea_popescu: decimation one of the most interesting aspects of systemd is the irrationality of the proponents. it's almost as if you're discussing theology with the flat earth society or geophysics with the global warming cult of washington dc.
mircea_popescu: even in terms of... not... pouring gasoline on own head and lighting it. twice.
mircea_popescu: by practical standards, the us did really well in the 20th century.
mircea_popescu: if those are your two choices, who do you vote most likely to succeed ?
mircea_popescu: decimation let's be fair here : you're a freshman, there's 12 kids in senior year. eleven strip naked, pour gasoline over each other and set themselves ablaze. the 12th puts them out by running into them backwards then continues to run backwards into things for a week or so, until he's finally comatose and just spazzes quietly on the ground.
mircea_popescu: early us kings were intellectually weak, in world that had but contempt for weaklings. they saw a way out in hiring "pr", people to protect them from the deep waters of speech and thought.
mircea_popescu: decimation admire this funny : early frankish kings were physically weak in a world that had but contempt for weaklings. they saw a way out in hiring bodyguards, which was convenient. for charlemagne.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ask diana what's her name, the sec senior counsel chick.
mircea_popescu: the rest's just icing, much like saying "robin hood governed Sherwood County by arrow."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think you may be conflating things. guy a) lived on a mountain ; b) among an ethnically opressed majority that he supported ; c) against a technologically advanced foreign power.
mircea_popescu: knew a chick that did both, she had superb tits and splendid teeth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more like, judging dentist by inverse count of loud screams on the premises ; plastic surgeon by inverse count of lawsuits.
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: i don't use keybase but my key was generated there <<< "your".
mircea_popescu: jurov: coinbr is getting 30k pingbacks/minute << did it do anything ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could say teh plugging with ricin episode was the result of competent kgb leadership neh ?
mircea_popescu: decimation it'd be the big bad, by definition. it only exists conceptually to accomodate asciilifeform's rampant pareidolia :D
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i wanted to see if anyone knows him. "can get an inquiry with" is the opposite of that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, but they still have to be... you know, NOT wet pasta.