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Diablo-D3: yes, and now I think he may actually BE an NSA employee
nubbins`: anyway, next year, i'll hopefully remember this fiasco, and switch providers
nubbins`: but i mean, seriously. it's an insurance company -- they generally only deal with large payments
nubbins`: i did what i could
nubbins`: and told me i could leave
nubbins`: then i said "so why don't you guys take credit cards, anyway?"
nubbins`: "no, i asked for these"
nubbins`: i paid my home insurance ($1200) with fives
nubbins`: i could
nubbins`: so i couldn't pay for a case of beer with a couple of those $20 coins
pankkake: I don't get it
Namworld: I think I'm out with fiat.
dexX7: "Your zenpad was delivered, albeit with some delay. I don't think it's fair to call us scammers. Could you please take down this report ? we would sincerely appreciate it"
Namworld: ah, I see its in speculation, none in investment tho
Namworld: I don't see it on bitcointalk.org
Namworld: I hadn't noticed...
dexX7: actm is getting more and more solid imho. basically not much has changed, but from time to time i'm almost surprised how solid ken handles stuff
deizel: dexX7: i threw together a transcript, http://pastebin.com/6tSK3DGJ
dexX7: oh did i already miss the ken interview?
thestringpuller: I think a bitcoin bank in detroit would be perfect, the feds wouldn't care
thestringpuller: i knew that would bring mod6 out of hiding :D
Kleeck__: Not sure if I'd rather have more hashing power later or half of my money back, ala Terrahash.
pankkake: no, I'm missed the interview too
smickles: ;;later tell mircea_popescu jurov tell me i'm being useless today
smickles: jurov: i thought i was pointing out that the opensource stuff was fixed back in 2008, if he used the proprietary stuff it'd be no good
nubbins`: anyway i have tenants moving in tomorrow, gotta clean up a bit
pankkake: I hope someone does My Little Pony coins
nubbins`: although i have to say
nubbins`: i wish ;(
truffles: not a big deal for us, some of us wont make it that far i guess
nubbins`: and i don't forsee any problems with exchanging them as face value
nubbins`: anyway, point being, i think these coins are great
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I have, some of them are exceedingly clever
nubbins`: so i go to the bank instead. problem solved
nubbins`: i see what you're saying
Diablo-D3: I dont own a 3D printer
Diablo-D3: I dont care if the coin says $100 CDN
Diablo-D3: so if you show up with an oz of silver, I am paying you $2x for it.
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I think you misunderstood
Namworld: They're purely collector coins/souvenir/memorabilia. I don't think they're meant for investment nor circulation.
Namworld: like 100-200 models yearly I guess.
nubbins`: anyway, the point i was making is
Diablo-D3: because I'd totally show up with a ton
Diablo-D3: if I went to the mint
Namworld: As I said, face value and metal contents are always completly unrelated with canadian mint coins.
truffles: time machine i wouldnt chose that ..
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: I become one of the richest men alive
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: if I build a time machine, shovel a million dollars into it, go back in time to the day the Fed was opened
Diablo-D3: nubbins`: well, this is what fiat currency does to you, it makes you think what I said was odd
nubbins`: pigeons: on what point am i mistaken?
nubbins`: pigeons: i'm mistaken?
pankkake: nubbins`: well, I doubt they would accept it
nubbins`: pankkake: you mean, how can i exchange my $20 coin for $20?
Diablo-D3: Namworld: well, to be fair, I _prefer_ the physical currency being worthless
nubbins`: I KNOW
nubbins`: but i can walk into a store and purchase $20 worth of goods with it
nubbins`: and that's why i find these coins so interesting
nubbins`: i guess i'm mildly confused about the lol
nubbins`: and the $20 for $20 silver coins are, i think, 1/4oz
Diablo-D3: its why I'll accept gold and silver from any major mint
nubbins`: i have a few of these too: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/20-for-20-fine-silver-coin-iceberg-and-whale-2013-prod1690016?o_action=crossSell
nubbins`: play your cards right, i might sell you one ;)
FabianB_: pigeons: i guess same url, tomorrow noon gmt
Diablo-D3: Namworld: you own 14% of DMC, I wonder who the other 86% is
Namworld: I guess I'll keep an offline list.
Namworld: "[07:07] <Namworld> ok well I found what to liquidate.
Apocalyptic: nope that's the link i was looking for, thanks !
Namworld: ok well I found what to liquidate.
Namworld: Let's see what I can cash out... hmm.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i would say prepare for a freeze in finance. winter's coming.
Namworld: ugh, so many requests to cash out BTC-BOND. Anyone wants to get them or should I start liquidating a bit of stuff?
mircea_popescu: i personally think most of its potential hasn't really been unlocked yet.
VanCleef: i gotta admit i really enjoy bitbet
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's a weak bet, i wouldn't risk too much dust on it.
mircea_popescu: i like that best. 4 btc bet on like... 29/100`000 weight.
mod6: "Suck it Pizza-dick I will be spending up your sweet sweet btc next weekend :D" << lol
mircea_popescu: i am guessing nobody actually got a device ? or ?
mod6: i just need it to interact, get a response and display. once that's done. code cleanup + testing on my actual device instead of the emu.
mod6: actually, i already know it works since i tested them while enc/dec with my own key without having to leave the local system.
mod6: next week too (after sunday) i'll be testing to make sure that the RSA enc/dec of the cmds is working as it should.
mod6: i'll take a deeper look this coming week.
mod6: i've got all the 1.4.14 src local actually. i was doing some gdb of the sucker recently.
mircea_popescu: if someone did that i'd certainly want to see what the maintainer does.
mircea_popescu: i don't presume to read crypto implementations as if i understand anything.
mircea_popescu: i mean in the 90s right ? i can see it. but it's 2013. we got powah.
mircea_popescu: i'd really like to be enlightened as to what practical consideration recommends the use of elgamal still.
mod6: yeah. i think that since elgamal is malleable, using the universal one-way hash to achieve the non-mallebility make cramer-shoup an interesting choice.
mircea_popescu: i was discussing gpg/pgp/ssh keys/whatever else uses diffie-hellman
[\]: I don't think it was supposed to be
mod6: or i could just be derp
mod6: so think i acutally coded myself around it. but now it should be a problem anymore.
mircea_popescu: i orginally thought elgamal was the correct choice, but seems i was wrong
mod6: [\\\]: ya, it might. i know that bitcoinj does
mircea_popescu: i think if you have to pick one cypher
mod6: i actually ended up going through my Applied Crypto book and implemented what amounts to doing this: http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1998/12/msg00290.html
[\]: I forget
mod6: it was another strange issue that i ran into a week ago. some of these crypto libs are a bit lacking compared to say what gnupg can do out of the box.
mod6: i can imagine.
mircea_popescu: i think we're going to see a famine of good crypto products the coming decade.
mod6: in the mean time i've been plowing ahead on the android tool. done well with that. gotten RSA clearsign/enc/dec working. so that felt great.