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pankkake: from what I understand, colored coins aren't much better than asicminer-style direct shares
nubbins`: i send a dust tx to address 1abc, with note "xfer 100 s.gem", so address 1abc is assumed to always possess those 100 shares, permanently
gribble: nixed - definition of nixed by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/nixed>; Why I nixed p2p, colored coins and all that jazz pe Trilema - Un blog ...: <http://trilema.com/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz>; Why I Nixed the Knicks | The New York Observer: <http://observer.com/2012/11/why-i-nixed-the-knicks/>
nubbins`: i mean, if the idea behind colored coins is that you have to make this huge tree of transactions that have some sort of magic dust in them
mircea_popescu: ;;google why i nixed
nubbins`: why can't i just send pankkake a dust transaction with "xfer 100 S.GEM" in the note field?
nubbins`: but let's say i own 100 shares in company x
nubbins`: it's because shit like i pasted doesn't make sense
nubbins`: but why the fuck would you design it in such a way that the "color of the coins" (i.e. your shares in company x or whatever) could ever be lost?
nubbins`: after an admittedly short search, i wasn't able to find a whole lot of technical info on the theory behind colored coins, but i found this odd snippet in a paper:
Vexual: cool, im gonna buy noumea so i can learn improper french properly
pankkake: I see. cool. I wasn't able to find a good documentation on the matter earlier
pankkake: that's why I thought of having multiple old coinbases, of many values
pankkake: indeed. I was actually thinking of how a service could try to lower its fees by coinbase optimization
pankkake: it's how I chose the amounts I bitbet usually, I take a full input :)
pankkake: I'm becoming addicted to zero fee transactions. it's like gambling except you eventually win
mircea_popescu: According to Pileggi, Scorsese cold-called the writer and told him, "I've been waiting for this book my entire life." To which Pileggi replied "I've been waiting for this phone call my entire life".
pankkake: indeed, I wonder if other language have such a popular curse worse
mircea_popescu: english is so banal. i can only imagine what that'd have sounded like in romanian.
pankkake: well I'm on a project where most of GUIs suck, and we only support one dead mobile platform. kivy was on our radars
mircea_popescu: i think it's pretty much useful as a way to write for smartphones, but it does run in linux.
pankkake: I knew it mostly as a way to write Android applications in Python. if it can run without the android crap, it's great
nubbins`: i thought they were written in RPG IV
Azelphur: I spy python+kivy
nubbins`: although i think i recall that in other places red is the right-wing color of choice?
nubbins`: i was referring to their strong slant to the left
nubbins`: i get most of my news through the glorious red lens of the canadian broadcasting corporation
nubbins`: ah! i have so much to learn
nubbins`: i thought that was the onion
nubbins`: Vexual: not my bitcents! i'm in it to win it
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I spot a kivy screenshot
kakobrekla: i doubt
kakobrekla: i hear rumours?
pankkake: I don't like websites or browsers, so :)
pankkake: I like it - tor or not
blastbob1: i was dreaming about a irc based exchange on the tor network
pankkake: hehe, I remember when you could rent "shells" and the number of resident processes was limited
pankkake: I'm running a relay on an EDIS node
pankkake: some others that automatically shut you down (I know one who monitors for both TOR and Freenet)
mircea_popescu: pankkake like who ? (i've not been watching this any)
asciilifeform: last i checked tor exits were explicitly permitted in their TOS
pankkake: I mean, legal entity
pankkake: given I know people who had police visits quickly after running exit nodes, I won't
nubbins`: i thought you were asking if i didn't have any nubs
mircea_popescu: and i gave clear orders no futher bets to be accepted!!1 the entire system is breaking down!
Vexual: can i get a 9 pin plug instread of usb? :)
pankkake: no. I TL;DRed it. but that was no reason to say that my concern was invalid - it was valid, and actually taken care of
mircea_popescu: i gotta make this guy sign an nda.
pankkake: asciilifeform: wow, so… that what I was proposing!
asciilifeform: ok I should probably chime in here. Easy answer:
mircea_popescu: the definition of petulence is "i've not done anything to date but i will declare your item "flawed" because i am upset that you don't agree with what i think is the case".
pankkake: "I don't know" is a better answer than "it's fine" when it's not
mircea_popescu: so i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: jurov there's a lot of sales copy there but i dunno how it's supposed to work/be implemented.
jurov: then i guess bigger animals than us will start making fun of it
Vexual: nice. i couldnt think of a suitable h
pankkake: and I'm only getting evasing responses now. pathetic
pankkake: I mean, it can perfectly provide both
pankkake: anyway, I think an optional, streaming interface would be good
pankkake: I guess (looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory)
jurov: mircea_popescu: really, what happens if i put on it 4GB file to decrypt? where will it put the decrypted file?
pankkake: I wouldn't call it ROM
pankkake: ROM is Read Only Memory right? so I don't get it
pankkake: and I don't think you can do that with a filesystem
pankkake: oh I'm dumb. you only need the pubkey for that
pankkake: I guess you can write software using it, of course, but it's clever
mircea_popescu: jurov cause i'm that kind of asshole.
mircea_popescu: FabianB perhaps. i'll have to look into that.
jurov: asciilifeform: you have not considered adding a display? it's the thing i like about trezor
pankkake: well, I get the point of the device, but no backup is a dealbreaker for me
asciilifeform: only people I know who include the zapper are, well, classic NSA. and they don't have a retail store.
mircea_popescu: as best i can see the smartcard is a sort of fun and games project, let's play with smartcards. it doesn't have the critical features such as separation of key from slate.
Vexual: good, i like drama
mircea_popescu: as best i can see it has little in common really.
bitesak: precisely, I was speaking about GPG with my gf and this would be a good christmas gift
mircea_popescu: i would think you know, if anyone that groks gpg gives one to their numerous gfs
jborkl: I wonder why it is 3 white dudes and one mexican dude mining at a chinese pool?
jborkl: I am just looking at the picture'
mircea_popescu: jborkl umm i can't read that stuff, what's it say ?
Vexual: i like the faraday cage bit
mircea_popescu: mike_c i think so.
mircea_popescu: anyway, we'll get a better idea as to how reliable the things are after they've been in the wild a year or two. atm all i can say is they should be pretty reliable.
Namworld: Well I suppose that could work
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well i didn't mean you. i meant people!
kakobrekla: and i want to keep that backup
mircea_popescu: i think the better solution is to use a master and sign a cardano for the move.
mircea_popescu: one problem i see with this directly is that people will keep insecure copies and then go "o noes someone hacked my cardano and stole my key!11"
kakobrekla: so i can keep it!
kakobrekla: i just want to define it
kakobrekla: its not that i want to keep it
mircea_popescu: why's your key so great you want to keep it anyway ? i bet you it wasn't gen'd on hardware rngs for instance.
kakobrekla: i miss the option of forcing my own key innit
Kleeck_: I... I thought I did...
Kleeck_: I wasn't suggesting that at all.
jcpham: i could read trilema
jborkl: "More bad luck! My power supply just died! I highly recommend not buying this power supply! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152044
ThickAsThieves: i bet the salary = you get to be a founder!
ThickAsThieves: it's a tricky area, as i myself have been in a position before of having profitable things i no longer wanted
nospinzy: i wouldnt invest in that
Jere_Jones: I think I get it now. Maybe. Back to work for me. :)