266600+ entries in 0.174s
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes, because you're politically engaged. i'm sure
the nazi "victims" of special forward batallion inspired a lot more revulsion in liberated population
than
the perpetrators.
mircea_popescu: also consider - someone like
the young rodger is
the result of careful selection over
the generations.
mircea_popescu: hey, nobody disputes
that "human life is supreme value" is a recipe for utter disaster of
the foulest, worst smellijng kind.
mircea_popescu: fragging officers exists BECAUSE of
the practice of killing rodgers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because insane. even in voltaire, cca 1750,
there's an evident awareness of candide's probable fate in army.
mircea_popescu: which is by definition an universal apocalypse from
the subjective view.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, eventually
the rest of
the decerebrated body calls for apoptosis.
mircea_popescu: calling nero
that
type may be slander ;
that it seemed
to
the pinoy at
the
time
the more credible slander is instructive.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i don't buy nero-the-historical-character either ; but my point is
that
the description of him from ancient sources hostile is mendacious in a certain way, which certain way supports my view in
that it makes it plain
the ancients were aware of
the
type.
diana_coman: dunno if I really buy Nero being
the same kind of broken; might need
to brush up on it in
this light at least out of curiosity
mircea_popescu: also not a need ; but it serves my stand better
the larger diversity
there is in
the examples.
diana_coman: aha; why
the need
to go back so much in
time
though?
shinohai: Well
there was Pekka-Eric Auvinen
mircea_popescu: i also seem
to recall a dude
that burned some building in athens.
diana_coman: uhm, haven't really searched
this but do you mean
that
there are similar shootings all other
the world? can't really be
that
this kind of broken is
to be found in
the us alone
diana_coman: the way I read asciilifeform's point of bringing culture in was
that it's culture responsible for
the outcome of
there being a broken kid; not for
the fact he was broken, not for
the fact he existed in
the first place; simply and strictly for he's specific end
mircea_popescu: amusingly, if
the "brain scan" approach were science,
this kid would look so deeply evident on a scan...
diana_coman: he was broken
to start with (or in a more charitable view one might be inclined maybe
to
think
that some actual interaction when he was
tiny etc - but
that is a matter of hope rather
than anything else)
mircea_popescu: and so he serves us in
the sense a "stray
torpedo" helps
the navy
that launched it if it happens
to hit "something"
that "wasn't supposed
to be
there"
mircea_popescu: it's just
that his extremely rare make-up (as it's rare for kids
this dysfunctional
to survive
the cunt's regexpes) allows us
to examine
THAT culture in an exotic light
mircea_popescu: it's not
the culture
that fucked up rodger. he would have been broken in any culture.
diana_coman: you mean you
think
that's a biological impossibility for some reason? as otherwise it's still basically a broken culture
thing at most and so what asciilifeform said, but not exactly "nothing anyone did or didn't do"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i wish
to meet
the father
that actually does
this.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (for
this discussion we distinguish between "homosexual = man incapable of forming deep connections with women" and everything else ; fucking men is not even contemplated for criteria as such.)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I did NOT say
to
teach him anything; precisely my point: nothing
to do
to make him something else
than he was (or rather: wasn't); what I meant by plenty
to do starts with NOT pretending he is a fine child like all
the rest, let's get him
to college, give him a car etc
mircea_popescu: notice
that his attachment
to boys as described reads cvasi as it is.
mircea_popescu: shinohai
to continue
the discussion : yes, a little less cursed he'd have made a great pedo ; and a little less cursed
than
that even, he'd have made a great homosexual.
shinohai: Looks like a face
that would have made a great career
transexual
though.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman kid is lacking
the hardware. you can make a seeing child learn
to read ; you can fit glasses
to a "retarded" kid
that's just myopic and let
them catch up
to
their normal level. you can not
teach reading
to child born withou eyes.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu,
that may be, although I suspect it's not
true per se: sure, nothing could have been done
to make him something else
than he was; plenty could have been done
to allow him
to die happy for instance instead of giving him
that responsibility
too; moreover
there was plenty
to be done
to help everyone else basically; what asciilifeform says
mircea_popescu: though in fairness i must say, nothing anyone did or didn't do could have helped
this kid. he is
the definitionally patibulaire
diana_coman: asciilifeform, but keeping
them alive is one
thing, at
the end of
the day I can keep whatever I want alive in a jar on my windowsill
mircea_popescu: then
they get
truly irate ; if it doesn't look like it possibly could
they're just displeased.
mircea_popescu: and
they see it as cardinal sin
to attempt
to fix. ESPECIALLY if it seems
to work.
mircea_popescu: see, if
this guy was ever so slightly less broken, he'd have survived a coupla years more with a cloak of semblance of normalcy covering him ; and consequently acquired both a love of 12yo girls and
the deep cowardice
that's universally
the mark of hte pedo.
PeterL: I
thought somebody here suggested "The White Guard" by Mikhail Bulgakov, but I can't find it in logs now. Anyway, I recently finished it, was pretty good book.
diana_coman: but myeah, I guess
that article makes sense
diana_coman: the last part I suspect is just
that
they don't meaningfully
talk or actually interact with anybody simply
mircea_popescu: diana_coman
the reason
they "didn't notice" / "didn't
take action" is
that
they're "modern democracy liberal civilised people" which is
to say
that strange sect of neopuritanism which believes from is both necessary and sufficient ; don't curse and you'll go
to heaven ; don't say nigger and you'll get promoted ; don't meaningfully
talk or actually interact with your children and
they'll go
to college.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
that diana_coman , otherwise
the soul of benevolence and peacibility, is
talking of smushing and killing keenly reminds me of an older
trilema article ;
diana_coman: something like
that; I find it more damning
though
that apparently nobody around him either noticed anything of
the kind or otherwise
take any meaningful action on it
mircea_popescu: characteristically, it shares a lot with
traditional doctrine re females ("utterly dumb in
the sense of actually devoid of a soul / humanity spark") ; apud classical greeks.
mircea_popescu: in feminist
theory (the "mainstream" version not
the "slut-friendly" fringe)
THIS is
the necessary and ubiquitous characteristic of all prostitutes, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: key brain structures apparently failed
to mature past ~30 months.
diana_coman: for some reason
the whole
thing did
trigger one old memory of a classmate in
the 4th grade who shouted
through
tears: WHY do
they all go
to congratulate you for winning instead of consoling me for losing; having also observed quite a lot of small children recently, I would be inclined
to
think
this guy was just stuck somewhere around a *very* little age and
that is
that
mircea_popescu: sooo, /me
taught girl about cheese ; maybe a coupla years ago. now /me goes
to
the fridge,
there's epic stuff in
there didn't evne know existed in
this country.
a111: Logged on 2015-10-10 13:15 mircea_popescu:
their issue is with
the WILL. car deaths are "accidents".
that's ok. just as long as nobody gets what
they WANT libertard is happy.
diana_coman: well, your notes provide good places
to stop and read a bit actually: kind of like signposts here, look at
THIS shit - a gem of a shit in a
tedious shit
diana_coman: I suppose I don't have
the same amount of patience with spiders; and certainly no qualms killing
them if
they don't get out of
the way; I read about half
the first part and
then really skipped
through it and still felt
that I lost
too much of my
time on it
mircea_popescu: diana_coman
the way it goes in my head reading it is something like "why doesn't
this fucking spider walk away. o wait, ITS A SPIDER."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect it's very convenient muppet. has entirely nothing
to do with anything of political interest, or for
that matter
this world.
diana_coman: his "writing" can kill more
than a bunch for sure
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 21:38 asciilifeform:
the 'keys rating keys'
thing does not yet exist.
diana_coman: is
that elliot rodger guy still alive (well, as much as he ever was) - might be about
time
to get him
to join eulora; it has COOL cookies