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a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 09:34 Framedragger: phf:
thanks for adding scriba btcbase log's list of bots btw
mod6: <+asciilifeform> we burned it out of
trb with hot irons, first
thing, for a reason. << werd.
thx.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 06:09 a111: Logged on 2015-12-03 16:55 adlai: industrious must be got rid of, for he is
too dangerous."
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 13:57 pete_dushenski:
that alice_ was a character. much log skipping.
trinque: choosing
the stack I did was born of experience
trinque: Framedragger: I'll be writing up
the whole deployment and hosting side of
things sometime
today.
Framedragger: in other news, znc
took more
time
to reconnect upon connection failure
than i want it
to
take. gonna improve
things.
trinque: getting lispy over
there mp?
pete_dushenski: "Firstly, you see ? Firstly, how you convince
the girls you're a Casanova riding
two stallions.
Then, how you lose your virginity. In
that order.
mircea_popescu: ah nm, it's just an enumerator etc for "internet of
things" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: which has been, of course, a point
throughout
these many many years.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger eh, right.
they'll go
to coinbase instead. like before,
there's a reason for
that "these people have money?!" - mp laughs ; and
the reason is
that people who have money either do better research
than
this or else soon enough don't have money.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 03:46 jhvh1: 5. Admitted
to God,
to ourselves, and
to another human being
the exact nature of our wrongs.
pete_dushenski: in other news, my best
tenants of all
time are leaving at
the end of
the month. a sadness is me. i give chances of equally quiet, punctual, respectful couple 2:1 against
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah...fuck. lol. RCE possible. good
times
Framedragger: that's a ridiculous slippery slope; street
thieves also run private business enterprises in
that respect, i suppose
trinque: are we back
to opining on a man's private business decisions like it's reddit or what
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: absolutely. and at
the same
time you can understand why a bunch of people do not intend
to hold any money with you ("these people have money?!" - mp laughs), because even if
the "ban" is legit, it doesn't exactly inspire
things.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger not only separate, but entirely nobody's concern. i can ban anyone for any reason or for no reason and i offer no explanations.
this is how, you know, your bank works, also.
mircea_popescu: the anal child's "you didn't buy me my
toy so it's your fault i'm a junkie" only works in
the mind of
the anal child.
mircea_popescu: there bowls of "fuck me, i'm stupid"
to be eaten at every juncture. perhaps of increasing size, it is
true, but
there nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: that it's a smoothly working machinery, where escalation was
tried and failed and
then
tried and failed and
then and failed AND
THEN
TRIED!!! and failed does not excuse one from pretending "the last step" is "because
the first step".
Framedragger: se of
the gpg contract, but
that's separate,
too, i guess
Framedragger: wasn't
the whole point of it
that kako disagreed of you attempting
to charge bbet money for spending money
twice (ironically, zero fee
tx will be more difficult with no block size increase - which i'm against,
too).
that
this was not in
the gpg contract. so he did not sign bbet statement. and
then bbet proceeded
to be liquidated. you also disabled his mpex account for an unsigned comment on qntra or wherever which did not breach any clau
mircea_popescu: and
this is, as you notice, entirely divorced from
that.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger sure. businesses will on occasion run into unexpected costs.
this is a fact of [business] life.
mircea_popescu: if someone shouts "down with
the government" and
then
tries
to grab a policeman's gun, he will be prosecuted ; and he will obviously claim "it's political". nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: Framedragger
the miner conspiracy is in no way related
to any of
this ; however. if you recall,
that disagreement as such resulted in entirely no friction.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [13:28:09] <asciilifeform> Framedragger: in case you didn't know - kako sits on a
tall pile of earlyadoptronium (and also bbetronium)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but your expression of
that position came from five minutes of being a
teenage boy alone.
mircea_popescu: i have slaves who also don't ; so has
the welfare state.
this doesn't makethem "richer
than x".
they are
the 0 of poor.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as a model, i propose
to you
that
there's no substantial difference between
this and say your bizarro position re llvm yest.
Framedragger: asciilifeform:
this is prolly again one of
those "mind"
things
mircea_popescu: this is BECAUSE people who are poor often lack
the specific sort of sophistication
that will keep
them from falling in
that exact hole.
mircea_popescu: ftr : my "fuck you, you may not be poor and be here" is not (as i'm certain oft perceived, because why
the fuck not, it's easier) simply mp-superby. it is a strict and absolute necessity for one's own mental health.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't disagree with your characterization. but i don't
think
the "entirely and unmitigatedly wrong" is objectively / necessarily
the case. mining konspiracy, i don't know, mircea. but at
this point i'm
too out of
the loop for
the "i"
to be mean anything here.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's
trauma, dude. he did what he earnestly believed was right at
the
time ;
turns out
to have been entirely and unmitigatedly wrong.
this is catastrophic, and especially so in poorly socialized, introverted, intelligent males. now gotta reevaluate everything,
the evaluations often don't come out meaningful,
the correct alternatives are frequently perceived as alf-impossible, it's a mess.
mircea_popescu: to get back
to it, "i am suspicious of
this mp fellow" is not an ideology ; nor in itself much of a problem.
Framedragger: totally sure it was meant with "mind". it's kinda gotten out of hand and is imho not constructive; i mean,
to keep
to
this narrative but not put it into (coherent stream of) words
mircea_popescu: is
the idea here
that "whatever, we've already fucked ourselves with anyone with a clue, might as well say
things
that'd perhaps persuade a fraction of anyone else" ? or what, is "nigerian" more of a state of mind
than a state of pigmentation ?
mircea_popescu: yeah well,
these
things
take a while. go have einstein write up "his something"
the year prior his writing it you know ?
Framedragger: my frustration with kako is
that he doesn't
think it's worth
the
time
to write up a coherent narrative from his point of view. i'm sure it'd be useful
to have it. maybe it's because it's impossible
to have one in
that case; maybe not; i for one don't fucking know
mircea_popescu: anyway, so what's
the problem ? guy
thinks he's on
to something,
this is
the bread and butter of a life of
the mind.
Framedragger: ftr i haven't made up my mind and a man is more complex
than just a binary state machine
Framedragger: punkman:flimflams: "oops flushed
the orderbook again", "oops mispaid dividends again", "HELLO I AM
THE CEO OF BITCOIN, HERE IS
THE BITCOIN EXAM, oh what do you mean btc addresses don't keep a balance?" "it's not socialized losses, it's btc cartelisation research" "you were being an asshole so I banned your mpex account"
Framedragger: "the only possible explanation is
that not all of it contributes
to
the narrative he wants
to build."
Framedragger: "i'm more curious re kakobrekla's motivation for withholding any of
the info."
Framedragger: asciilifeform:pankkake:
the 'can't admit being wrong'
thing is quite
true, and whether you can afford dealing with mptronics, is very personal matter. so i do not actually disagree, as such, with pankkake.