asciilifeform: imho the smart thing to do is to exhaust erry possible avenue for making working silk purse from the existing sow's ear before spinning globe.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: could spin the globe all day, but imho this remains the fundamental boojum
asciilifeform: ( he made sounds in that direction, but nuffin came of it )
asciilifeform: at one pt thought that phf was the necessary man.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re ru -- also looked into. has certain problems (planet's most fascist customs; and chinese-style 'national firewall' among'em) but dunno how relevant in practice, a local with good social engineering acumen could prolly finesse, to some degree. (problem is that we aint got one such)
asciilifeform: wore out a pair of chinesium boots, even.
asciilifeform walked coupla 100 km in timis & bucharest , in <week
asciilifeform: usa is the 1 place where folx go around in motorized fatchairs errywhere
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eh, that's in erry orcistan
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ro was to at least host the fiatola-interface end of the affair (rather than machines) at that pt.
asciilifeform bungled the expedition and still owes mp_en_viaje coin
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940478 << it's been 2+y since the last dig. there's gotta be ~something~ resembling competition, at the level below the orcish national thing. ( fwiw the dc routing cabinet was a glass item and there were defo several groups of panels in it, hanging off what seems like physically distinct fibers to street )
asciilifeform back at console, where dulap still not reachable; eats log
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja send that reply or still waiting for sumthing ?
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that we would not have even ~noticed~ this nonsense if they hadn't unplugged
asciilifeform: 2nd pic dun look like any kinda ddos at all, simply saturated incoming pipe, happens erry single time anyone uploads a coupla GB of db dump or whatnot
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in what units is the vertical in the 1st pic ?
asciilifeform: i've had industrial pipes cut out for whole biz day on acct of backhoe. but this aint a backhoe, backhoes make some sorta sense. this dun make sense.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and we'll have to credit subscribers for the lost time. with substantial adjustment.
asciilifeform: this was ( and continues, dulap still dead ) a maddeningly sovokesque experience, where we pay vendor for fish 'that's what they don't have at the fish counter' but short of borrowing mp_en_viaje's freighter and laying own fiber i can't presently think of a final solution to it
asciilifeform: unless mp_en_viaje contributes an idea for moar bite, let's send this.
asciilifeform: if qntra loads, dulap should be reachable, basta
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you drive through the thick heads that 'getting ddos' aint a violation of the service terms, and that the fuckers are obligated to provide service, on whatever level available ?! what is this nullrouting bullshit anyway?
asciilifeform: it is difficult to argue with his example. his box -- stays up.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i would also like to find a solution that is cheaper than 'switch continents' . but 'cloak bots and pray to satan that enemy doesn't realize that he already knows the piz ip range' aint any kind of solution !! at all
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you do understand that even if your idea re 'it's a irc ddos bot' is factual , it aint any kind of solution to ddos ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is how the current bot logs in. however it dun work with cloaks (except apparently for old accts, e.g. mp's)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i aint about to use sslism.
asciilifeform: what will happen when 7 sparrows fart ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: listen, the whole 'oh but uncloaked' thing is ridiculous. what, this is isp that falls down when a sparrow farts on it ?!
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: keep the heat on the arse.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: btw still waiting for call ?
asciilifeform: ( evidently somewhere do exist 'serious adult' carriers, i.e. where mp_en_viaje parks his box. but for some reason he sent BingoBoingo to uy, and not to there )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: see mp_en_viaje's point above. i suspect he's right
asciilifeform had similar wtf coupla yrs ago, ended up tracing it to bug in the oddball ~keyboard~ controller he was using
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this may be, but asciilifeform does not yet know on what level of the idjit pyramid took place this particular idjicy.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i've yet to witness this oddity, where page reloads when link clicked
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not only mp_en_viaje has point, and yer gonna have to talk w/ latech , but is high time to find out what other dc exists in that orcistan, lt's can't be the only 1 ( if it were, would be dangerously close shave in itself, to be had over a barrel )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lobbes's ? loads here. ( not housed in piz )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: heavy page, low mem ? cannot say, but doubt that it is connected to which logotron ( diana_coman's box is running same item as mine was when went down )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: artifact of browser possibly ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i've had the suspicion since august that these people are overselling their bw.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: couldja share what it was you said to the latech derps ? cuz i'm getting the impression that you left'em with impression that it is somehow acceptable to nullrout a paying customer's ip block.
asciilifeform had just about same observation as in above, but currently at a loss for actionable idea short of buying a trawler and laying own fibers
