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asciilifeform: it would significantly complicate enemy triangulation, if you had a great many.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: we traded games like 'elite', rather than lolcat vids, but otherwise similar.
mircea_popescu: the thing with the 10minute / 2km range is that in most circumstances, this is a half hour distance. if you have to drive it - gotta park, unpark, holy shit. most people live within 2km of their friends anyway.
Framedragger too young to remember soviet
mircea_popescu: what do they do, like 10km/h ?
asciilifeform: esp. if all you're trying to do is to cover a 10min flight range.
mircea_popescu: this is not a design concern at this level.
asciilifeform: even then.
mircea_popescu: half tbps
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this presupposes a 100% landing rate, and a time 0 to encipher and fill the stick, and then to empty it
Framedragger: ah yeah, the "terabytes of USB keys in truck" data rate
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is quite viable, if the animal spends ten minutes in flight and carries say 32 GB sticks you're looking at
mircea_popescu: another thing i'd like to see prototyped is quadcopter mediated data exchange. have the guy plug out a usb stick from one back panel, fly it over, plug it into another back panel.
Framedragger: and, you know, listening to them weird russian number stations and pulsars http://www.rtl-sdr.com/using-the-rtl-sdr-as-a-transmitter/
asciilifeform: it is not a useful way to do anything.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the linked piece is approx. same as the 'transmit with my vga card' from 1990s.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah yeah, that's what it'd be called then. (there is some experimental stuff but nvm, http://www.rtl-sdr.com/using-the-rtl-sdr-as-a-transmitter/ )
asciilifeform: which is a quite useful thing, both for 'i can hear my keyboard across the street, wtf', other experiments, but also for picking up eventually mircea_popescu's shortwave.
mircea_popescu: why don't they call them sdrr then!
mircea_popescu: you can get emitting ones too neh ?
asciilifeform: you might be thinking of 'gnu radio' etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 14:23 Framedragger: i think rtl-sdr dongles may be enough, no?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540016 << these don't transmit. ☝︎
Framedragger: yawell, don't forget, routing is not a trivial problem. this is only the very beginning, i think. an occasion nonetheless though, surely!
mircea_popescu: truth being that this is a historical occasion, with actually correct, well designed internet within grasp
Framedragger: indeed, indeed. hence an itch to try things over radio whilst reading those comments there
mircea_popescu: as people (alf, mostly) pointed out in the intervening coupla years, there's absolutely no sane reason to marry gossipd to extant-internet, or tcp/ip or etc, as the original draft was trying to
mircea_popescu: but honestly, gossipd as a finished product can not possibly come other than with a mesh-over-wifi and mesh-over-radio ready made.
Framedragger: i think rtl-sdr dongles may be enough, no? ☟︎
Framedragger: entirely unrelated: wouldn't it be somethin' to test out some gossipd ideas over *actual* cheap long wave or whatever wave radio devices between these here people?
Framedragger: !#s tmsr radio
Framedragger: !# tmsr radio
mircea_popescu: (it's also a wonder why they don't teach girls to masturbate in sex ed / have special sherub camps etc.)
mircea_popescu: but in the meanwhile, why not try everything see what works. you could call it fuckd-dc
mircea_popescu: i was just being facetious! no such article is being prepared! sorry to disappoint.
Framedragger: wouldn't exactly object to reading that. girls sometimes are not in the know, either, which is pffft.
mircea_popescu: coming next on trilema, a butterfly classification by preferred wrist motion. learn to distinguish the circular girl from the more common sideways girl and the very rare vertical motion girl.
Framedragger: at that*
Framedragger may have been hinted at this very night. the laziness is sometimes frustratin'!
mircea_popescu: now you know what "baby i'm spent but if you wanna come over we can watch porn and do the butterfly" means.
Framedragger: (phenomenological clarity notwithstanding, it's not super clear. word may come from old english butere (wiktionary), but that's only one explanation. no/few cited sources it seems)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [11:46:17] <Framedragger> and also from the cve, "The vulnerability can be exploited even if security modules SELinux and AppArmor are installed with default active policies for MySQL service on major Linux distributions."
mircea_popescu: (pretty obvious to me : if you run finger over winds, the sensation is of buttery smoothness, esp if expression is restricted to the field of experience at the time.)
mircea_popescu blames pdf to text converters.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how the fuck did the "butterfly" misspelling of a flutterby catch on ? ☟︎
Framedragger: (ah indeed, that counts)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it's there, #46
mircea_popescu: it should have trackbacked hmm
Framedragger: you may want to put an update linking to the new doc in http://trilema.com/2015/artifexd-a-better-ircd-rfc/ mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: in any case more than what slashdot provides. so there could be a dark slashdot somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: no, we're talking 17k different ips, plenty with garbled or no user agent, so you know. linked behind a password "protected" forum or w/e. ☟︎
asciilifeform: because i confess, i refreshed it a buncha times
asciilifeform: and relatedly, i have a proposed cut of the gordian knot, but now i gotta write it up
mircea_popescu: well, it's the 2nd most read article this month, which i've never seen before for a recent piece.
mircea_popescu is starting to suspect darknet larger than previously estimated.
mircea_popescu: and in other irrelevant news, that article's the weirdest thing i ever saw. apparently it attracted huge interest - but is linked virtually nowhere.
mircea_popescu: trinque i know i brought this on myself, but an unsubscribe will be useful so i don't get everything on gossipd spec twice lol
Framedragger: (in the form of http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#201)
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#199 << sounds good to me
mircea_popescu: the problems of the fiat world.
mircea_popescu: gotta start somewhere. and that somewhere is always the same : everyone steps out of his mother's cunt covered in blood and guts, not to mention shit half the time.
asciilifeform: heh i still recall when folks believed that their unixen were 'multi user' os etc. aha.
mircea_popescu: a good part of why "shared hosting" as a fiction for the masses moved to "cloud hosting" as a fiction for the masses being that there was already no way to secure a lamp environment enough to multiuser it.
asciilifeform: .. or the overdue bullet ?
mircea_popescu: afaik this was known for a decade
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 11:44 Framedragger: summary by one lucb1e, "people that can run queries on your MySQL server, either by legit access (shared webhosting or something else) or via an SQL-injection vulnerability, can execute commands that might root your server. Looking at the PoC, it seems possible to overwrite any file that the MySQL user (or whichever user MySQL runs as) can write to."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539858 << pretty great. thing is long overdue for its behind-the-shed bullet, just like openssl. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the secrets are in no way shared between the users.
asciilifeform: so he leaks HIS tx.
asciilifeform: there is no 3rd party in the envisioned scheme.
asciilifeform: the users ? then they are retarded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's to expand though ? the thing with secrets is that someone will be leaking them ; much like the thing with chastity vows. now find him, etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know. but this is the nominalist axion. you're stuck with some level of simon says
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would be interesting to see this expanded on
mircea_popescu: the "secret tx pool" thing is trivial in theory ; in practice it opens you to a whole cat and mouse game and it didn't seem to me we're there yet.
asciilifeform: the annoying part was the game of simon-says, not the 'too many buttons', ftr.
mircea_popescu: a question for teh ages.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do i locally configure my terminal to emit mircea_popescu's command-of-the-day ?
mircea_popescu: ifeform, and that there's a trilema article on this topic ; and finally that italians do it better : http://66.media.tumblr.com/fc49140463f06998aa16e4dde0f9217f/tumblr_ny6xzbsqoG1revz5to1_500.gif )
mircea_popescu: (notice also, for the sake of stating the obvious - that what glyphs one's monitor displays is a matter of local configuration ; that if one wishes to type ζ and have a certain bot respond with a search that someone is encouraged to look into macros, keybindings, or whatever solution of this problem his locale prefers ; finally that nothing keeps asciilifeform from getting phf to have a111 behave any arbitrary way in #asciil
asciilifeform: trinque: mircea_popescu was correct in his formulation that you gotta be large enough for them to die if they refuse, for this to work.
trinque: so then no one mine's atop your block, and what
asciilifeform: let it go over proper crypto to the high-s pool.
trinque: new prefixes are worth it in that they allow command name overlap.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [04:59:38] <asciilifeform> but no takers, mega-surprise.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 10:00 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539841 << the second half of this is afaik true, but the first item is trivially solved by not sending the tx anywhere else. ☝︎
trinque: point being then can discover prefixes and commands.
mircea_popescu: truly doth not belong in trilema
mircea_popescu: one earns his tomato.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, truly there isn't, and truly tis a problem. but your question wasn't "hey, shouldn't we have a canonical manual of commands or something ?" to which the answer would have been "go, write" rather than tomato.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 09:32 mircea_popescu: Framedragger be a darling move it to !$ thanks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539827 << mircea_popescu throws rotten tomato at me but afaik there is not a canonical manual of commands, nor is it possible to find whether the latest knob rewiring took, without brute test of three or four of these ☝︎
trinque: one bot saw the other's link.
asciilifeform: ^ interesting. is this correct mechanism ? ( 2 bots answer )
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:35:52] <BingoBoingo> To celebrate these 9/12 phuctorings https://i.sli.mg/0FzhV3.png A SEASON!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 09:39 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#37 << one wonders, of course, if hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) is stuck in an airport somewhere furiously editing his speech on his "research" which entirely consists of repackaging material published by the republic for his dorky friends with internet / mental disabilities. or whether they'll just publish an incomplete list and pretend no
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539822 << i think the boeckfest was over on friday night ☝︎
mircea_popescu: moreover nothing prevents emergent/de facto specs. the job of the gossipd spec is to keep people from doing world-breaking idiotic stuff. how they handle their own wives is their own problem.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: gotcha. i felt shy because all these other smart people don't comment on the article, damn their restraint