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mircea_popescu: that's why if right now i change a rating, the old one's gone.
mircea_popescu: the wot reflects wqhat things ARE. not what they were.
mircea_popescu: exactly like indicated. will exists for as long as the hand lives to enforce it
mircea_popescu: i really do not wish to hear how much some long gone loser trusts whatever long gone scammer.
mircea_popescu: present wot would benefit immensely from some dead hand cleanning as it is.
mircea_popescu: things change,you know. mayhap people you used to trust are nopw scammers
mircea_popescu: but for as long as anyone gives a shit, they'll be there.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you will find the computerized means to ensure immutability.
mircea_popescu: chat is not an instrument to permanence. it's an instrument to chat.
mircea_popescu: by the same mechanism anything of anyone's kept around in the world : your friends have copies.
mircea_popescu: anything ? they're signed by you. they're, until anyone hears better, your position.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't dood. how do they disappear ?
mircea_popescu: i still can't possibly see what flaw you perceive with the wot part of gossipd
mircea_popescu: what's adequate for moving currency is not adequate for moving words.
mircea_popescu: well, if you can only net once in 2 months you can only net once in 2 months.
mircea_popescu: for all you know it can even came in the shape of regular bitcoin txn.
mircea_popescu: for all you know some validly signed material from 2012 satoshi emerges tomorrow. tis what it is.
mircea_popescu: very theoretical possibility, as "the last words" are hard to fake online.
mircea_popescu: it's as good as current thing, except better cuz signed.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as my old wot is still signed with my old key, and you have a copy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, but you can sign it with yours, if you wish. which correctly reflects the situation. "here are the words of great X i attest to"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the evolution of this dev session clearly proves the superiority of chat over say bbs, of which forums and trilema comments are implementations.
mircea_popescu: for all practical purposes i am his 3rd split personality, a figment of his rich imagination.
mircea_popescu: however, if you only know asciilifeform and he;'s relying my chat,
mircea_popescu: and if i am in your list and you in mine the same is preserved by gossipd.
mircea_popescu: the only entity served by this nonsense is nsa. users don't actually exist, outside of what the parties you trust say.
mircea_popescu: moreover, i wish to take this opportunity and link the important point of the "unsheathe your sword". inasmuch as people proceed on the "user objectively exists" and then try to "create anonimity" the unavoidable result is "anonimity is hard lolz".
mircea_popescu: this "objective existence of user" is a trap in our task here. it doesn' tserve, it hinders.
mircea_popescu: artifexd you have a clue : either your friend, or someone who only exists
mircea_popescu: for that matter, imagine a "No" string signed. what now ?
mircea_popescu: well, i don't. i more often have sex with someone in the bus
mircea_popescu: do you ordinarily sign contracts with people you chat with in the bus ?
mircea_popescu: in fact, for all you know A sends whole different novels to B and C.
mircea_popescu: don't trust people you don't trust and so you won't have to answer unpleasant questions from people whose trust you value.
mircea_popescu: each server compiles wot list for use of its user from helos received
mircea_popescu: each server maintains his wot ratings, and theyt are sent out as part of hello procedure
mircea_popescu: lettuce continue this convo while asciilifeform feels all left out :D