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mircea_popescu: nah. listen, the way these "spanish dominions" worked was that the spanish kind simple claimed the land. there wasn't a 1 spanyard per billion acres.
asciilifeform: where did the smart italians go ?
mircea_popescu: but argentina is mostly built out of the italians that couldn't find us army tit to suck in europe. ie, the rejects of rejects, it's dubious italians are people at all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the spanyards from spain were people.
mircea_popescu: the two may be hard to distinguish in practice, but nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: and it's an insult to communism to call south american communists. they're not communists, they're just dumb and lazy.
mircea_popescu: but in the 80 years hence, slowly wound down back to their hole.
mircea_popescu: they appeared people back when german empire kept them afloat.
asciilifeform: afaik communists have not yet succeeded in actually turning people into rabbit.
mircea_popescu: they're already starving ; 0 willingness to do anything about it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah. these monkeys will just starve.
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent : the sickle is the pinnacle of agricultural slavery. it requires one to literally walk bent over and using arms for 10-12 hours. only miner has harder time.)
asciilifeform: will be known again as soon as chinese tractors quit coming in.
mircea_popescu: and industrialize in particular manner - "we'll cull the peasantry and build towns"
asciilifeform: this cult was a thing quite particular to the time and place - folks who are not making motions to industrialize etc. are not at risk.
mircea_popescu: so there's all these "art" craps that consist of that same image of che etc.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i suspect this is the whole recipe of south amercan socialism : "we're just as much a bunch of idiot subhuman iron age farmers ; unlike lenin we won't fuck with proletkult"
mircea_popescu: and whatever, they had some maybe-promising beginnings in modernist art ; but the narrowminded soviet derps (lenin & gf front and center) fucked it up.
asciilifeform: 'in the great birdlessness, my arse is a nightingale.'
mircea_popescu: not really. just in comparative terms. you know, like the sow looks good next to the goat.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the cow barn looked great after the mansion next door was burned down by drunken sons of old man rockefeller'
mircea_popescu: by the 70s it was already hopeless.
mircea_popescu: eh, the soviets looked good in the 50s/60s only, and strictly because the old austro-hungarian empire was ground to dust by hovitzer fire, literally, and france/low countries etc had been bombed pretty badly. so west europe starved which it hadn't done for 3 centuries while russia starved which it had done each other decade.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr, i'm still torn on the unauthenticated lighthouse thing. enemy can still make headaches for folks by silently mutating suspected lighthouse datagrams in transit.
mircea_popescu: hm i suppose 128 is better than 100 huh
asciilifeform: k into that voting booth and out of spite pull the trigger for Trump. '
asciilifeform: 'One thing I've observed which is interesting which is that a lot of people will not admit that they're going to vote for Trump but you see it in their eyes. ... they're just keeping mum about it because their own family members will turn on them if they announced the fact that they're about to vote for Trump. There's going to be a huge number of men, specifically, angry ones who keep their anger hidden most of the time, who will wal
asciilifeform: in other orlols, 'In terms of where the Soviet Union stood beside the United States for instance, in the '70s during the oil embargo and all of the troubles that the US was going through, the economic troubles at the time, the Soviet Union was looking pretty good. In fact, that's when we left the Soviet Union thinking we were going to this dreamy place. We got there and it's a dump. It was just an unbelievably sad sight.'
mircea_popescu: as the police joke goes, "every victim describes the assailant's gun the same way : it was big"
asciilifeform: ( i have been told that a surprising number of robberies involves arms that are obviously, to naked eye, shams. evidently many folks lose their shit and fail to notice... )
mircea_popescu: fact is, average woman willing to give it all away will make more over any period than average convenience store robber willing to give it all away.
asciilifeform: also won't notice that papier-mache.
mircea_popescu: "i think the machine gun works by stabbing its victims ; but you won't notice because tits."
mircea_popescu: maybe they're all nude and the media can't report on 'em
asciilifeform: (unless they're all seeekrit)
mircea_popescu: that's another thing.
asciilifeform: ~0 robberies by woman on typical day where i live.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, more like "i don't care about what you think enough to not rob the place ; but god damned i care what you may say about my genitalia"
mircea_popescu: go rob the bank in the buff like your ancestors teh greeks.
mircea_popescu: this makes no sense to me. so you've supposedly "given up on society" and everything, right ? why the fuck are you dressed.
asciilifeform: certainly would not abide barrel in the face as pictured, etc.
asciilifeform: folks who work with pieces that actually shoot, do not have this stance.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure a) those neurotic ceramic salesgirls don't matter-of-factly expose their cunt as seen there and b) they've no guns.
asciilifeform: l0l! where was this, 'pussyriot' ?
mircea_popescu: burning man is for white wanna-bes, the black dudes have different rubspots.
asciilifeform: from yesterday's thread.
mircea_popescu: whereas the other wants to go to burning man and rub in the human dogvomit.
mircea_popescu: the only difference is that one has "a taste for opulence" and dings your imported german car.
mircea_popescu: one can't talk to girls because sex ; the other can't talk to girls because sex.
mircea_popescu: take the following poll : if you were given the choice of living permanently with 1 of : rodger elliot ; trayvon whatever, which'd you pick ?
mircea_popescu: yeah. but he thinks 1k in cash is "oprah rich" whereas mb&ws derp expects millions in expenditure and still whines about it.
asciilifeform: also the 'thief isn't asking anything' model is quite a bit off. the 'dindus' of bmore are as actively managed and externally fed as the animals in any other zoo. no less so than the white suburban folk. neither sows, nor reaps, etc.
mircea_popescu: he's just an ex thief or a future thief.
asciilifeform: but it does fear the thief. at the very least, as a class. rulers who interfere with a mass plunder in progress tend to develop 'problems'.
mircea_popescu: it's not even in any way ~aware~ mb&ws trabajador even exists, as any sort of separate or separable entity.
mircea_popescu: it's very much self-flattery of the monogamy-beer-and-watching-sports trabajador, that the usg somehow fears him / cares.
asciilifeform: by justifying the existence of the 'catch and release' system of police, judge, jail, etc.
asciilifeform: thief supplies valuable services to usg
mircea_popescu: natural preference for the "quiet" child ; they're all usg's children, cuz modern democracy much like ancient tyranny is definitionally inclusive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and you know why, yes ? thief isn't asking anything from usg.
asciilifeform: recall the copper thread.
asciilifeform: and lafond is basically correct, in any confrontation between honest men and thieves, usg takes the side of the thief.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aha, anything! but impaling thieves.
BingoBoingo: lol, yes. Weld the wear item!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all kids are born in shit. as the gypsy wife said to her husband, "do we wash it or do we make another"
BingoBoingo: In other news the Bureau adds. "Lastly, you could consider modifying your vehicle with a vehicle security system or secure the catalytic converter to the vehicle frame with additional welding."
mircea_popescu: anyway, he actually almost-says the wot word.
mircea_popescu: hey, i have chicks that started life as americans.
asciilifeform: and where's he to get 'trustable' ones ?
mircea_popescu: i will daresay that if your women can't be trusted in front of enemies you've been wasting your time.
asciilifeform: 'I will not lie to honorable men, but am committed to lying to women, because they cannot handle the truth and cannot be trusted with it in the face of your enemies.' << this ?
mircea_popescu: of course, now i don't like his idiotic position on women, but this is now on the exact opposite side of before.
asciilifeform: does subj link read like 'cow man' to mircea_popescu ?
BingoBoingo: Beyond that he's rather moral flexible
BingoBoingo: To the extent honor code exists in my reading of lafond, the lynchpin is Lafond won't give up his wallet to muggers and the people who do have deep failings in their attunement to reality.
mircea_popescu: what i'd be more interested in is, if BingoBoingo can explicit the "honor code" symbol as used by lafond, seeing how i read much less than him from the man.
asciilifeform: well i did not go to his boxing school, and have nfi if factual or cover story or wat.
mircea_popescu: was talking symbolicly, of teh "i watched steven segal movies and it gave me an honor code"
mircea_popescu: that's the use, they... opine.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trains ~reddit posters in a different color scheme.
mircea_popescu: i sure as fuck am not about to go watch di maggio pitch with him ; nor drink the beer-flavoured-sprite he guzzles. and i'll fuck his woman, without any concern for him ; while he can't fuck mine, because she won't put up with his dumb head. life is so unfair.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fella teaches, iirc, boxing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like his trainees have a use
asciilifeform: his thought process, as i gather, was roughly 'there were picketfences. and working men Got Things. and petrol was twopence/gallon. and then the weevils came. and the zombies came. if we could be rid of the zombies, of the weevils...'
mircea_popescu: da fuck i care that he feels equal to the plumber down the street and the banker two streets down and in the legobox that plays the role of his thinker they're "all the same" plastic figurines.
mircea_popescu: anyway. dude's "moral code" is a vaguely digested version of picket fences, whereby "hardworking man" "should" "get things" "just like all the others". it's a strand of labour thinking from the 1800s that was born out of a very strange, but temporary and self-limiting situation, and otherwise has no place in the world.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty sure they were, many parts in transylvania wolf was only coming back cca 1980s
jhvh1: thestringpuller: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: !~later tell BingoBoingo none of the articles on my draft table seem compelling enough yet to publish. call me one of those tortured artists.
mircea_popescu: and i'll tell you : he takes issue with, eg, the latin "child goes after his mother", apparently this is "an excuse of deadbeat dads".
asciilifeform: relatedly, i've always wondered if the thing re wolf population post-ww2 were factual.
mircea_popescu: in the debate of yet-another-flavoured-socialism vs wolf, i'll sit with the wolf.
mircea_popescu: heh. mno. he fails to say "wolf does the right thing - farmer is a fucking idiot for not shooting it. law ? what fucking law."
mircea_popescu: i certainly am not about to subscribe to his homo homini bovem est
asciilifeform: i thought it was with the farmer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you might have noticed that in a dispute between wolf and cow the fellow sides wiht... the cow ?
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/8Sb0n : 'Paramount Pictures recently sent a DMCA takedown to Google, listing a copy of the popular operating system Ubuntu.'
asciilifeform: and i have reason to suspect that mpb is catastrophically defective and fails to pass tx to trb (which, recall, is a reference, one does not get to say that it is broken in vs the unpublished mpb) under certain circumstances.
asciilifeform: half the time i do not even know if he is speaking of a trb -- or mpb! node.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i still have nfi what mircea_popescu's patchset is. understandably he can stay mum about it if he likes, but it makes his debugging reports ~useless from a trb pov.