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phf: asciilifeform: but even ignoring that, which i think was an interesting design challenge (go audit postgresql), sbcl falls over when actually trying to shuffle in memory data around
adlai was just talking about how in-touch he is with his inner child
adlai apparently still misses the occasional selfatari
adlai: * never. in a toilet who's seat you've never warmed.
adlai: covertress: oh lol. then why are you offering people to shit in a toilet you've warmed?
phf: if i wanted to keep log in sql why would i even use lisp to begin with?
covertress: chill, adlai, i've nevah posted to steemit
adlai: oh yes add this to the pile of sbcl warts. it sucks at growing the heap dynamically.
phf: adlai: same code and data that was taking up ~~500mb with cmucl blew up lispworks to 4gb, and now blowing up sbcl to 1gb, which results in heap exhaustion errors, despite the fact that there's still extra heap available
adlai: covertress: regarding "2016-08-29 18:36:38 +covertress mircea_popescu i've been asked to extend you a similar offer... to write for steemit xD", i'm very curious how much you have earned (ie, withdrawn btc from an exchange after selling) from that shitpile
adlai: who knew typos could happen in the retina
adlai: i thought the EFF was suing mircea_popescu
adlai: phf: didn't miss it (i read scrollback! or at least, skim...), i thought it was back up
ben_vulpes: what is this 'ef'
phf: adlai: you missed the part where things were broken since 6pm or so
adlai: and before it died, the logs looked out of date.
covertress: mircea_pepescu: i had wished to convey Patrick's offer to represent you against the EF.
adlai: covertress: on a nicer note, i believe par for this course is to not just "read 6mo of logs", but actually spend 6mo reading logs, before planning/attending a conf
adlai: sic transit gloria covertris
covertress: mircea_popescu: i regret to inform you that i will not be attending our dinner 26-Sept
adlai: maybe... maybe this is how to get in touch with the inner child?
adlai: nah i feel like a child using it, because i failed to configure znc properly so i lazed away how i always do
ben_vulpes: adlai: yeah well that'd be an adult's bouncer, neh?
adlai: alternatively just run irc in tmux on a server
ben_vulpes: it persists an irc connection in spite of whatever third-world problems your corporeal situation brings upon you.
ben_vulpes: have you ever heard of a thing called a 'bouncer'?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sounds terrific
asciilifeform back to bed, with 'lure of the integers', bbl.
covertress: jhvh1, recd your tx from 5 days, 0 hours, and 29 minutes ago. evah heard of a phemon called a hurricane?
asciilifeform: why am i reading a tardstalk link.
asciilifeform: 'I'm building a Blockchain-as-a-Service (BaaS) corporation and a foundation, to guide and support the open source, public blockchain, KR.'
asciilifeform: 'While details of Cook’s actions and the alleged threat have not been publicly released, law enforcement officials have said they believe the threat was real, but has been stopped by Cook’s arrest. “There’s been no evidence to suggest the involvement of anyone else locally and no evidence that I’m aware of that indicates anyone is on their way here,” Gibbons said. “The intervention happened early enough to prevent this
asciilifeform: Madison County State’s Attorney Tom Gibbons has said that Cook was in communication with a known terrorist organization overseas via multiple electronic means. Police were first aware of Cook on Aug. 24 after Madison County sheriff’s deputies were summoned by a family member regarding Cook’s mental state. Family members have said he suffers from multiple mental illnesses.'
asciilifeform: 'A Madison County grand jury returned an indictment Thursday charging a Godfrey teenager with terror-related offenses. Keaun L. Cook, 18, has been charged with one count of material support for terrorism and one count of making a terrorist threat, both of which are class X felonies. He is accused of making verbal threats of mass casualty events at multiple locations in Madison County, which have not been disclosed by law enforcement.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this happens regularly.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: sawzall and day laborers, hardly that much of an additional cost
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: in other not-quite-noose, 'To every pair p, q of distinct primes there correspond 9 positive integers x no larger than pq such that x^c ≡ x mod (pq) for every odd positive integer c. Therefore these 9 messages x are unconcealable in any Rivest-Shamir-Adleman public key cryptosystem which has the product pq for its encoding modulus.'
ben_vulpes: i at least try to not scald myself during demo
ben_vulpes: near the pressurized oh and did i mention heated vapor line?
ben_vulpes: i am a barbarian, use wd-40 for these applications.
BingoBoingo: Gotta let rust lose the batle to penetrating agent before delivering torque
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: is that in some way i'm missing a torque delivery device?
adlai: ben_vulpes: starting a degree in chemistry. this is the first time i'm attending university, dunno if high school counts for (back)
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> just two weekends ago i had to excise some rust-welded nuts that didn't have clearance for a socket wrench. << PB Blaster!
adlai: go ahead, mircea_popescu, say that the gzipped txt fits better in yours
ben_vulpes: yeah mhm right next to the pressurized vapor line that's a grand idea.
adlai has been reviewing math towards next month's semester start. just encountered a beautiful "fits in head" derivation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AngleAdditionDiagramSine.svg
ben_vulpes: "acetylene torch!!1"
ben_vulpes: praytell, what'd be the right tool for that job?
ben_vulpes: just two weekends ago i had to excise some rust-welded nuts that didn't have clearance for a socket wrench.
ben_vulpes: if i had to cart around the right tool for every possible job my toolbox would be infinitely large
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: lel that looks like infamous 'vicegrip', 'the wrong tool for every job'
adlai: if he asks to read it himself rather than sit through 10min of my silky smooth... failure
adlai will read the lamport piece to the friend as a patience test, before suggesting sicp / little schemer
BingoBoingo: Real pliers are found in electrical department where fake pliers still abound. Real wrenches are found in plumbing, or for automotive applications from the vendor who operates out of prominently branded boxtruck.
BingoBoingo: which is exactly wrong. This a job for pipe wrench and cloth, or in the case of sinks a basin wrench which works on the UNDERSIDE!
BingoBoingo: see this tool in a 12" version. "
BingoBoingo: From herr vulpes link: "This is like a cross between a vice-grip and a crescent wrench. This is great for bath/kitchen plumbing when you need to remove stubborn fixtures and do not want to embed the channel lock/pipe wrench teeth into the chrome fixture and leave rough teeth marks on the smooth surface. The wrench locks down without marring the polished finish and it will not fall off if your hands are slippery wet. I also would like to
adlai: lamport's DnD example is perfectly logical: (apply #'<folder> file) -> "label this file as belonging to that folder", (apply #'<folder>) -> "show me what you got"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The sane hand tools though are normally seperated from insane tools and spread out by department while insane tools are all gathered in same pile.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> eventually there will be separate 'underground' suppliers for ~reasonable building materials, just like you can only get actual food in usa from 'special' suppliers. << At the moment they sit on the shelf next to unreasonable building materials with smallest difference in price tag.
adlai: "That all happened twenty years ago. In retrospect, thinking of programs as automobiles wasn???t so bad. Automobiles are pretty simple. If their car stops working, people expect any good mechanic to be able to figure out why and fix the problem" << Welcome to the 21st Century, where the computers still don't work but now they're in everything!
trinque: I have a shell script that shits out the gentoo I like
trinque: it's probably terrible
trinque: I have a disk image of old gentoo, but hey, why not see how hte kids do it these days
ben_vulpes: ahaha trinque biting off gentoo quest again?
trinque: so then same command
trinque: becaues autism dictates you're actually creating the /dev/softraid0
asciilifeform: this is typical.
trinque: braindamaged thing uses the same command to init a drive as attach the softraid again next time
trinque: I went to mount an encrypted openbsd drive on a different (same endian) arch
trinque: speaking of rot, asciilifeform you'll like this
ben_vulpes: which was almost impossible to type
ben_vulpes: mcmaster carr is one of the last bastions of sanity in fab supplies.
trinque hums don't fear the reaper
asciilifeform: eventually there will be separate 'underground' suppliers for ~reasonable building materials, just like you can only get actual food in usa from 'special' suppliers.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i hope this is a comment for the log readers
mod6: asciilifeform hoards screws, and regrets nothing << im with ya. they don't make shit like they used to.
asciilifeform: because there is exactly nothing that would prevent it.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: realize, this is invitation for the next round of metal-softening.
ben_vulpes: on the flip side, torx work (for now). i sunk oodles of self-drillers this past weekend without a single slip.
adlai: trinque: fwiw, $10k invested in something with a sane risk/reward curve can't net more than ~$100/mo for very long.
ben_vulpes: because the soft metal won't drive 3 inches through pine with a phillips any more.
ben_vulpes: the final nail (screw?) is that even traditionally phillips applications (eg framing) now come with the torx heads.
trinque: yep, it's barfing the raw protocol for it
trinque: Framedragger: yer thing weirds up /me
ben_vulpes: i *know* how to sink screws well, and the zinc plated shit for sale is ~unusable even by me.
scriba: advantage in early automotive work. torx does not cam out ; which was major advantage in
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-16: [19:47:07] <mircea_popescu> ACTION just found out that phillips and torx heads respectively aren't mere "let's arbitrarily change standards to try and extract spurious rents via alleged intellectual property" ; but in fact have proper reasons to exist. a) phillips head is self-centering ; which is to say driver does not slip out of screw being driven. this was major
ben_vulpes: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160916/#242 << plausible, sure, but what has actually happened is that a) the chicoms have diddled the phillips female bit such that it cams out at the slightest provocation and than on top of that the zamac used to replace it wears after so much as a single slipped drive and b) torx is a convenient workaround for the shit metals
asciilifeform: that's a ~month of (very threadbare) salt mine, ffs.
adlai: (with apologies to Dear Stanislav)
asciilifeform: somehow i knew he'd say this.
adlai: [scalpl] seen from a distance, is a pretty good machine for converting ten thousand dollars into twenty thousand. [no footnote here! it can make money in crashing markets, too] But, given the [minimum trade size] it is profoundly useless as a machine for converting ten dollars into twenty.
trinque: if your thing works you should be flush with cash.
adlai: ('collaborate' implies either having money to potentially lose, or fixing my bugs. preferably the former because i do occasionally do the latter)
adlai: btw, just to bury the earlier discussion of scalpl with shameless self-promotion: if anybody feels adventurous and wants to collaborate, speak up (PM is also OK)
adlai doesn't know anybody who likes their job enough to work more than they need, with the possible exception of his mom - who teaches yoga.
adlai: i'm not sure the 'dark age' is limited to this industry, it seems pretty global
adlai: eh i try to keep the pitch minimal, and avoid repeating it (unless too drunk to remember the last one). one guy got repeated pitches but that's only because we lived together and he kept remarking on how i "make money by typing"