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mircea_popescu: did anyone else notice nubsy sounds just like
a girl in
a 1950s strict household ?
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily
a bash is an old internet tradition,
a collection of striking, funny or just memorable quotes
mircea_popescu: <ReutersEmily> oh gosh i can imagine...that would be the fastest way to turn your car into
a convertible, hitting
a moose <<< bwagaga
hdbuck: really dont know what to think of ripple since everybody claims its
a scam :/
mircea_popescu: btw, someone drop
a link in #freenode so they know they've been useful.
nubbins`: anyway, seriously gotta get moving. i've got ten pounds of pork shoulder to cut and grind, two loaves of bread to bake, and
a ton of prep work in the studio
nubbins`: i've been considering getting
a license, but having friends in rural communities is just as good, in practice
ReutersEmily: so i would imagine there's
a ton of moose hunting though right?
nubbins`: seriously tho, it's
a real danger, to the point where some people have been calling for
a widespread cull
kakobrekla: what you get is
a nonconvertible convertible
nubbins`: and as much as i like moose, 1200lbs all at once is
a bit too much ;)
ReutersEmily: oh gosh i can imagine...that would be the fastest way to turn your car into
a convertible, hitting
a moose
nubbins`: they're
a real danger on the highways :D
Duffer1: not quite marinade but more than
a seasoning
nubbins`: not quite
a marinade but y'know
Duffer1: beer can make
a surprisingly good marinade
nubbins`: anyone able to suggest
a suitable marinade for moose steaks?
ReutersEmily: ok guys....thank you so so much for being so nice to me and answering my questions. i am going to get on the phone in
a minute so probably won't be able to pay as much attention in here, but i think i'll stay signed in
nubbins`: nooooo, i never put
a satoshi in gox
mircea_popescu: nubbins` tell you what ?
a lot of people who i'd think would know better had btc with pirate.
nubbins`: but
a lot of people who you'd think would know better.
mircea_popescu: in other words, bitcoin is its own field. having
a good fundamental basis in finance is
a plus.
a big one, perhaps,
nubbins`: what do you expect from
a group of self-appointed wizards tho
nubbins`: bitcoin foundation is
a bit of
a lel.
BingoBoingo: That whole foundation crowd really is just
a wash.
mircea_popescu: anyway ReutersEmily the verification of such things is
a fuzzy affair at best. you end up weighting things, who said what who they work with who trusts them and why etc.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i can't think of any other reason for
a document leaker to modify the documents he's leaking.
nubbins`: which led me to believe that he sort of made the whole document up, and it got traction, so gox figured "now's as good
a time as any"
ReutersEmily: i don't remember off teh top of my head what format that was in because it was my colleagues in Japan who took
a close look at that
Namworld: nubbins', to the press, that's not going to be enough unless it's firsthand from the business' owner if it's about
a Bitcoin business.
radan: I have
a few btc with them, and I'm not sure whether it's secure
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: this channel -- and
a few others -- have identification features that are useful to this end
ReutersEmily: well one thing we have
a hard time with is how to verify stuff that is said or posted on these forums
mircea_popescu: chetty that's
a cute one. i recently saw
a reference to the beanie babies. conveniently failing to mention that this thing's been going for five years, and dropped precipitously three times at least
chetty: I'd love to see the press stick
a knife in the "bitcoin is
a ponzi" meme
ReutersEmily: so...Reuters is just getting into the coverage of bitcoin....do you guys have buring questions you'd like to see answered in
a mainstream press article?
nubbins`: what
a word for hands that starts with S?
mircea_popescu: now that guy, who was running glbse, met
a bunch of these folks irl.
Namworld: Some have met some of the people in this channel. Although there's currently over an hundred participant and it varies
a lot from day to day.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily i've met
a few, but as
a general rule no.
nubbins`: altho i think
a fair number of people in here will be hitting up the conference
mircea_popescu: of which i doubt very much is traded on any sort of
a daily basis.
mircea_popescu: i would agree. there's about
a million btc represented here,
nubbins`: it's
a bit of an "
a-ha moment"
Namworld: So yeah, if BTC is ever worth
a fortune each, there will probably be no need to trade them for cash, they'll probably be widely accepted by then for them to have appreciated that much..
nubbins`: since if btc has reached
a large usd value, it would be because you can actually use it as currency in
a great many places
Namworld: Well it's pretty much what's said in the movie, edited
a bit to include Bitcoin.
nubbins`: ReutersEmily:
a common question is "so will you cash out all your btc when it reaches <large usd value>?"
mircea_popescu: i was actually explaining this to
a guy from wired yesterday
ReutersEmily: but of the cases i did cover closely i never saw
a defendant i thought was wrongly accused.
Namworld: But I haven't had time to think about this topic in details to form
a specific or resilient opinion of the matter.
ReutersEmily: well they're pretty straightforward in that you have to have
a tipper and
a tipee, and the tipee has to know that the tipper is getting
a personal benifit in exchange for giving out inside info
ReutersEmily: anyway, Cohen said in
a deposition
a few years ago he thought insider trading rules were "vague"
bounce: the name popped up in
a wonkblog piece I googled just now; could well be the one I read earlier. name didn't stick, but he got done for insider trading.
ReutersEmily: mircea_popescu you're right it also does affect the stability of
a company's stock price theoretically when you have insider activity
mircea_popescu: unless you want to live in
a world of socialised dope care, it'll have to stay illegal.
bounce: difference between having an opinion and letting it colour your writing, which could well be
a challenge to separate.
ReutersEmily: i guess, without offering too much of an opinion since I am
a journalist and not supposed to have any, i would add that the markets aren't fair anyway
ReutersEmily: i guess the people who think insider trading shouldn't be illegal argue that if you can work hard for the advantage--ie get contacts inside
a company to leak you stuff or whatever, you deserve the competitive advantage?
nubbins`: i tried to get
a local CBC investigative reporter set up w/ pgp
mircea_popescu: really if i had to talk to
a ws whistleblower, thats what i'd use, or else pgp over email.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily the real reason you want
a client is that you can then install otr, which is
a cryptographically secure plugin allowing you to have private conversations safe from any snoops. and that is good quality safety, not the sort of crud normally peddled.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ReutersEmily: Right. This channel has
a log linked in the topic, but for other channels and conversations you depend on your client to keep logs for you
Namworld: Well technically I have yet to repay everyone, so, no, that's not yet
a fact.
bounce: reutersemily, mind
a personal opinion question?
nubbins`: ReutersEmily: most of us use dedicated software to connect to irc, rather than
a website like you're using
mircea_popescu: there was some unfortunate guy that took out
a bond in btc and paid it out early on
thestringpuller: is ThickAsThieves the only person to issue
a bond and not fuck over people?
Namworld: Ah, Ukyo still owes me
a large sum.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's complicated and has
a lot to do with spiders.
nubbins`: so what, you strap yourself into
a centrifuge feet-out for sleep and head-out for thinking?
ReutersEmily: hdbuck it's
a fun beat but i don't think it's good for my blood pressure
nubbins`: no cherry blossoms here, but there was
a man looking confusedly back and forth between my house, the house next door, and the key in his hand
mircea_popescu: when i originally picked
a date for the secret conference, it was mostly tied to when this particular walkway of cherries would likely be in bloom.
mircea_popescu: Namworld it has been for
a week. all the cherry trees are pink
nubbins`: i went outside yesterday without
a jacket
Namworld: No need. What I mean is, someone comes in here and ask questions, they'll probably get an answer, wether from the press or just
a random stranger. Who the person actually is doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: (this software works so that if anyone is mentioned - or has any strings of interest mentioned - they get
a signal)
ReutersEmily: i called one yesterday and got
a recording and
a menu
BingoBoingo: For
a while "moving to Panama" was such
a popular claim it was nearly
a meme in this space
mircea_popescu:
a guy by the name topace used to, and claims he is no longer because some offshore corp bought it.
mircea_popescu: ReutersEmily anyway, if you're positive-constructively inclined, they probably mean "with none of the risk holding your own btc entails, such as you not having
a clue and deleting the wallet"
mircea_popescu: resulting in
a good 4k btc loss for their "investors".