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mircea_popescu: meanwhile they play dice for a 2% house edge. that's okay.
mircea_popescu: that fails to be a 1%
asciilifeform: a common criticism of mr moldy (whose every published word, to my shame, i read) is that his entire philosophy seems to reduce to 'the crown exists to guard my suburban house against evil ape men'
mircea_popescu: decimation no, as in a little fucking and public speaking is required for adults.
decimation: as in a little radiation is good for you?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was it you who had a piece about 'temperature' ?
mircea_popescu: in any event, violence is not a "problem". it's required, like breathing.
decimation: if it is a switching supply and your generator puts out crap AC, you might ruin the dc supply
decimation: is it a linear supply or switching supply?
dub: I only have 10 of AC, a small generator
dub: asciilifeform: noob question im having trouble getting a straight answer, have 20a dc supply that I want to drive (carefully) off 10a of AC mains, bad idea?
decimation: The goal of formalism is to avoid this unpleasant little detour. Formalism says: let's figure out exactly who has what, now, and give them a little fancy certificate. Let's not get into who should have what. Because, like it or not, this is simply a recipe for more violence. It is very hard to come up with a rule that explains why the Palestinians should get Haifa back, and doesn't explain why the Welsh should get London back
Diablo-D3: but I thought the point of a pool table was to throw a woman on it and fuck her
mircea_popescu: "o ya, you're really living it large dude. the whole point of a pool table is to keep it in a cellar."
mircea_popescu: my mind boggles when i visit someone and they have shit like a pool table in the basement
asciilifeform: yeah that's where it ought to go. at any rate, probably not happening in a 30m^2 flat.
decimation: yeah you probably want to build it in a basement
asciilifeform: takes up a good bit of space though.
decimation: dump a concrete block in the ground, build a building around it, isolated with air gap
asciilifeform: needs a heavy table
asciilifeform: all i personally have is a very thoroughly weathered (from abuse as a student) magnetic board.
asciilifeform: it's surprisingly hard to find a breed of wood that comes in the requisite monolithic piece and never - ever - warps.
asciilifeform: i actually know someone who owns a board like that.
decimation: everyone knows that such blocks of wood are trival to obtain - simply punch a tree ala minecraft
diametric: asciilifeform: so if you post on reddit with +/u/CompileBot language \n\n [ code ], it will run that code and post it as a reply.
diametric: with a 15% discount this weekend apparently.
asciilifeform: as a matter of fact i do.
asciilifeform: (i once took a great interest in the subject of head-mounted displays)
mircea_popescu: and that's a ~7inch tablety thing
mircea_popescu: all i see is a n1 at 2k/1k
mircea_popescu: diametric that has got to be a scam.
asciilifeform: (gonna guess: a head-mounted lcd)
diametric: asciilifeform: found a device with a ridiculous ppi
cazalla: If you put ones ego aside for a moment, there is a lot you can learn, at least that has been my experience to date
mircea_popescu: the convenient explanation being that they're exposed scammers/shills with a bone for pr.
diametric: there is a surprisingly amount of people that really dislike mircea_popescu. I've encountered a few that proclaim he's a scammer, but when questioned on what scam specifically they fail to give details.
cazalla: given it takes a year to go through the /r/bitcoin and bitcointalk wringer, i am thinking most end up here after some time and not straight off thet bat
mircea_popescu: have a tit.
hdbuck: a joke taht had kept you busy for the last couple of years
hdbuck: i figured you had a pretty good idea tho cuz i'm clueless :)
mircea_popescu: <mpoe-pr> there's a thread there for movie recommendations. forum people. recommending movies to each other. can you imagine the horror? cause it's worse than you imagine.
mircea_popescu: are these the idiots who whine at facebook about whether x y z is a country ?
mircea_popescu: a a
mircea_popescu: i'll end up making 3% over a year and people will be o noes, such low return
mircea_popescu: 98 no bets for a 34.98 btc pool. 14 yes bets for a 1007.6 pool
benkay: "i have a pwan! pwint MOAR!"
ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, madoff chose a return that was set not to be "too good to be true" while working more on giving the appearance of very low baked-in risk. He did not give out returns that made anyone wealthy - he was just very consistent about it.
Namworld: Damn, I decoded what was pasted and i got a large image with just a few pixel high line of actual picture.
mircea_popescu: 25+% a year, twice madoff's presumed return.
asciilifeform: but ianafi (i am not a fire inspector)...
asciilifeform: given how it was an almost surgical demolition job of most of a block, probably a basement leak
mircea_popescu: well, natural gas is dangerous, in that it'll level a house.
decimation: interesting. Such a robot could be quite useful for setting up covert data connections
asciilifeform: your heart, liver, corneas have a valuation. ask the chinese. anybody paid yet/
asciilifeform: i saw a much simpler (cable-driven) version of this being used right here on my street.
ninjashogun: It's the difference between "How can I help you get from a $500K nominal valuation - your last round - to $10M" and "Wait, you're not taking a salary? Why don't you just go on welfare?" -- this channel above :)
mircea_popescu: decimation and if there's a gas explosion everyone gets unfriended ?
decimation: spam the shortwave spectrum for a few megabits
asciilifeform: i had a dream as a kid where me modem (old at&t 'paragon' fished from a skip) was a gas modem, and i forgot to turn off the gas
asciilifeform: everyone with a net connection, including Pashtuns using steam modems with ip-over-dead-goat have, at this point, 'had bad experience with startups.'
asciilifeform: ninjashogun walks into 'alcoholics anonymous' with a jug of moonshine. 'perhaps people here may benefit from a bit more experience with this!'
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, very humbly, perhaps people here may benefit from a bit more experience with them.
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, honestly I clearly have given this channel way too much access to what I'm doing already. There's a reason stealth mode startups operate in that way.
ninjashogun: Mats_cd03, I worked for a startup that was acquired, as one of just two employees. Yes, I know how typical funded startups operate.
ninjashogun: decimation, as I mentioned before we are at the pre-financing stage - the startup is not raising money right now. I know a lot of stories of people who built great things with burn rates near $0. Airbnb is now closing a round at $10B. They sold cereal to launch.
ninjashogun: benkay - Yes, you have just written a good example of trolling.
asciilifeform: it tends to end up unplugged and in a parts bin
asciilifeform: household example would be a smoke alarm that goes off every time you overcook a potato
asciilifeform: in safety engineering, there is a concept where precautions that annoy people and get in the way of work tend to make construction workers, oil prospectors, etc. worse off
benkay: i think there's a good reason society's locked you up in a 100/mo shithole, sir.
ninjashogun: benkay, a variation on one of the known methods.
benkay: ninjashogun: all trolls say "I'm not a troll".
ninjashogun: For what it's worth, I'm not a troll and do have some experience with product design trade-offs.
decimation: he's a high-functioning troll, as best as anyone can gather
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, if only one tenth of thefts actually resulted in the key becoming known to the thief - would there be exactly ten times as many thefts as a result?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, for example if you introduced an architectural change that, as a direct result, meant half of thefts did not result in key becoming accessible to thief - would there be instantly twice as many thefts as a result?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I did learn from it, yes. Clearly Risk Compensation is not a law :) :) It is possible to mitigate fallout in some ways without automatically getting an exact compensation.
benkay: asciilifeform: do you think this is a case for Hanlon?
decimation: can you propose such a technology? a spike in the steering wheel is not such a precaution.
ninjashogun: (asciilifeform had an example of how soviet submarines did not self-regulate their nuclear reactors but always had a person in the loop, who therefore understood the gravity of his situatoin.)
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, it is a good question because in the case of the Soviety Submarines, it is possible that none will ever melt down due to user error, ever.
decimation: 'professional' crypto products have a zeroize key http://www.gdc4s.com/Documents/Products/Secure%20Voice%20and%20Data/Network%20Encryption/GD-TACLANE-Micro-w.pdf
asciilifeform: the only seal that is worth anything at all is a custom, preferably invisible one (e.g. perfume, specks of dust) applied by the owner.
ninjashogun: I don't think it's possible to make a true tamper evident device.
ninjashogun: benkay, fair enough :). However if you are not aware that it has been out of your possession for a few minutes or hours this does not help.
ninjashogun: benkay, not so. This is asciilifeform's current argument for refusing to add any fallout mitigation for stolen Cardano's (including use of a passphrase that gets discarded after a while and memory cycled.).
ninjashogun: even though it would cause people to treat their Cardano's in a slightly more coveted manner.
ninjashogun: benkay, yes it's just a thought experiment. Clearly to SOME extent people would treat their cardano's slightly more securely physically if the printed key were on it.
ninjashogun: So that is true of a 500x risk compensation psychology. In this case, every Cardano should have a private key easily legibly printed on it for anyone tosee.
asciilifeform: 'steering wheel spike' is a thought experiment, not a business plan.
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, in this hypothesis, clearly it would make the Cardano MUCH safer to physically print the private key on it (ascii-padded) on a piece of paper that is folded a single time and taped to the Cardano. If users MUST do this or there is no way to do this, they will treat the Cardano much more safely.
decimation: seems like a sound plan
asciilifeform: before you laugh, the americans actually did this to the vietnamese on a few occasions
mircea_popescu: std's are a very narrowly restricted set of problems
asciilifeform: let's say that you own a pistol. it gets stolen and replaced without your knowledge for one that: shoots backwards.
ninjashogun: decimation, i.e. if it has been in adversary's hands, the result is obviously 0% integrity. What else is the result? I identified a couple of results to asciilifeform (including threat verctor back to PC should it be replaced without the Owner's knowledge)
asciilifeform: it is absolutely crucial that a cardano owner fully understand the gravity of his situation
ninjashogun: decimation, so this relates to an architectural discussion I had with asciilifeform on it. Specifically, a very GOOD reason not to include ANY second factor, not even the most trivial one (such as not writing your name and bitcoin address on the Cardano) is because any second factor will INCREASE the risky behavior in its users.
ninjashogun: he said that the only thing is that it's a bad, cheap laptoop
asciilifeform: and answered something like, 'if you mean a $300 small laptop, we don't know how to make one that isn't a piece of shit.'